Snakeman Luffy vs Shikai Kenpachi

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Poll: Snakeman Luffy vs Shikai Kenpachi (29 votes)

Luffy pummels him 24%
Kenny tears him apart, turns him into a sashimi 76%
Stalemate 0%

Random encounter

No prep with basic knowledge

Luffy has future sight, nidai kitetsu and new internal haki

Blood war Kenny start out without his fancy eyepatch but he can access to his Shikai anytime.

Win by any means

Mirror World, 50 meters apart

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No soul crush

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Kenny stomps

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Kenny does quick movement to get in front of luffy, then gives him the Kaido treatment with some soul damage to boot.

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Lol at Kenny blitzing luffy.

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#5  Edited By Gaoron

Kenny swings in his general direction

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Luffy oneshots.

Kenny is slower, and the attacks of luffy are better.

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Kenny has like zero speed feats that justifies him blitzing Luffy.

OT: Kenny takes it.

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Kenny one-shots the whole Straw Hat crew, along with their Grand Fleet.

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Kenny takes it.

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Kenny stomps. He solos the entire crew in shikai.

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Only anime kenpachi shows being somewhat of a speedster. Mangawise hes probably in the same area as Komamura as being just tanky with some quickness in battle. Now onto the battle! He handles luffy with mid-diff as he is only in shikai if bankai he'd low-diff by speedblitzing laffy taffys butt.

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Kenny cuts luffy in two and complain to yachiru how boring the fight was.

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Kenny takes it but lol at Kenny’s blitzing Luffy.

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@skysanji said:

Kenny takes it but lol at Kenny’s blitzing Luffy.

@ecoblitz said:

Lol at Kenny blitzing luffy.

Kenny has like zero speed feats that justifies him blitzing Luffy.

OT: Kenny takes it.

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@skysanji said:

Kenny takes it but lol at Kenny’s blitzing Luffy.

@ecoblitz said:

Lol at Kenny blitzing luffy.

@antonio_1996 said:

Kenny has like zero speed feats that justifies him blitzing Luffy.

OT: Kenny takes it.

Why would he have any trouble blitzing Luffy?

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@noctimereaper:

Only anime kenpachi shows being somewhat of a speedster. Mangawise hes probably in the same area as Komamura as being just tanky with some quickness in battle.

There’s no difference between Anime and Manga Kenpachi every blitz instance he’s had has been shown in both iterations of the series.

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Kenny>>>mach 10,000 Aizen so he blitzes.

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@leothegreatest:

He does not have speed feats to do that to luffy snakeman, even he does not have feats to do it to base luffy.

I dont why is everybody saying kenny would win, luffy wins this when he destroyed several threads of doffy with his head, no even talking about KKG, is just overkill.

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@omnihater:

He does not have speed feats to do that to luffy snakeman, even he does not have feats to do it to base luffy.

Kenny’s faster than characters who do have the feats, not that Luffy actually has raw feats himself in the first place.

I dont why is everybody saying kenny would win, luffy wins this when he destroyed several threads of doffy with his head, no even talking about KKG, is just overkill.

So far nothing in One Piece comes close to Kenpachis meteor feat, that’s why he wins here.

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#21  Edited By Omnihater

@leothegreatest:

>Kenny’s faster than characters who do have the feats, not that Luffy actually has raw feats himself in the first place

Mmmm luffy is equal in speed with someone like ichibe (and maybe more faster than him), so nope, kenny does not have neither PS or feats, to blitz base luffy.

He blitzes doffy, doffy can react to a meteor that travel more than 10000km in several seconds.

>So far nothing in One Piece comes close to Kenpachis meteor feat, that’s why he wins here.

Emmm nope.

Bircarge, fujitora big meteor and jack tanking a zunesha blow are far better than that.

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@omnihater:

Mmmm luffy is equal in speed with someone like ichibe, so nope, kenny does not have neither PS or feats, to blitz base luffy.

What? Ichibei has a casual 5 digit mach feat.

He blitzes doffy, doffy can react to a meteor thar travel more than 10000km y several seconds.

That meteor did not travel 10,000 km in a few seconds.

At best it traveled 120 km in a few seconds.

Bircarge, fujitora big meteor and jack tanking a zunesha blow are far better than that.

Fuji’s meteor isn’t on the level of Gremmy’s birdcage isn’t either for tanking it and no the elephants block isn’t about the meteor either.

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#23  Edited By Omnihater

@leothegreatest:

Ichibe's feat its only 5 digits if we take 1 second, and that cannot be posible.

>That meteor did not travel 10,000 km in a few seconds.

>At best it traveled 120 km in a few seconds.

Yes, it do it.

This is the size of the OP atmosphere.

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Thats Arabasta, an island with like 3000km of diameter.

So, just compare lol.

The meteor has to travel from the outer space, travel all OP planet atmosphere which is more than 10,000km in several seconds to get to dressrosa.

So, yes luffy is faster than ichibe.

>Fuji’s meteor isn’t on the level of Gremmy’s birdcage isn’t either for tanking it and no the elephants block isn’t about the meteor either.

Yes, fujitoras meteors are island level by KE.

Gremmy's not.

Bircage cut all the giants rock around dressrosa (more than 20 mountain sized rocks), so thats still better than kenpachi feats.

Zuneshas blows are island level cuz his size, so yes still better than kenpachi's feats.

Gremmy meteor is slow as fuck, so his KE will be less.

And kenpachi justs destroy a large mountain sized rock by fragmentation, kenpachi is just MM, like i said, less than those feats.

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@omnihater:

You’re saying that the atmosphere of One Piece is more than 6,000 miles high?

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@leothegreatest:

much more than that, the OP planet is much bigger than ours

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#27  Edited By Rebake

Kenpachi has too much raw power still for Luffy. Plus he deals mainly cutting damage, which rubber has no advantage against. Luffy seems faster, but that just prolongs the fight.

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#28  Edited By Raziel2014
@omnihater said:

@leothegreatest:

Ichibe's feat its only 5 digits if we take 1 second, and that cannot be posible.

>That meteor did not travel 10,000 km in a few seconds.

>At best it traveled 120 km in a few seconds.

Yes, it do it.

This is the size of the OP atmosphere.

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Thats Arabasta, an island with like 3000km of diameter.

So, just compare lol.

The meteor has to travel from the outer space, travel all OP planet atmosphere which is more than 10,000km in several seconds to get to dressrosa.

So, yes luffy is faster than ichibe.

>Fuji’s meteor isn’t on the level of Gremmy’s birdcage isn’t either for tanking it and no the elephants block isn’t about the meteor either.

Yes, fujitoras meteors are island level by KE.

Gremmy's not.

Bircage cut all the giants rock around dressrosa (more than 20 mountain sized rocks), so thats still better than kenpachi feats.

Zuneshas blows are island level cuz his size, so yes still better than kenpachi's feats.

Gremmy meteor is slow as fuck, so his KE will be less.

And kenpachi justs destroy a large mountain sized rock by fragmentation, kenpachi is just MM, like i said, less than those feats.

Gremmy Meteor feat even at min as in scaling Sereitei to City size still calc to Large Island+ Level using KE.

Fujitora Meteor feat are not island level unless you are counting the Movie feat, Meteor feats will always be calc the same unless we are shown how far in space they come/Irene, Fujitora Meteor feat without wank are exactly what they are Small city to City Level by their size, nothing special.

again even if the meteor traveled thousands of KM in seconds we dont know when the fighters knew it was coming/Haki even if they had even .25sec to react that would make them as good as average humans.

this is the same thing with Kirin from Naruto, dodging kirin/reacting to it only requires several hundred times more reaction than a average human.

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#29  Edited By Omnihater

@raziel2014:

>Kenpachi Meteor feat even at min as in scaling Sereitei to City size still calc to Large Island Level using KE.

U cant use KE, cuz u dont know the speed of the meteor.

Gremmy created it, so minimum speed does not apply to his meteor.

And by scans, is slow as fuck.

¿Size of the sereitei? I mean oficially?

>Fujitora Meteor feat are not island level unless you are counting the Movie feat, Meteor feats will always be calc the same unless we are shown how far in space they come/Irene, Fujitora Meteor feat without wank are exactly what they are Small city to City Level by their size.

Yes they are, a space rock that has the size of a level of the flower hill traveling at mach 30 (minimun) is island level by KE.

U can calc it u want.

KE=1/2mv^2

>again even if the meteor traveled thousands of KM in seconds we dont know when the fighters knew it was coming/Haki even if they had even .25sec to react that would make them as good as average humans

The feats is doffy moving his hands twice when the meteor is only a several meters of touching the ground, thats the feat.

U can calc the speed of the movement of doffy, is like 4 digits or even more

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#30  Edited By AnimeFreak1

Kenny with High Diff