Snake Man Luffy vs Delta

Rules:

• Luffy is Bloodlusted
• Canon Feats only
• Random Encounter-No Knowledge
• Wins by Death or K.O.
• Battle takes place in Mirror Dimension

Note:

Can she dodge Luffy's attack

Delta one shots going off her fight against Naruto.

Luffy has no counter for her Light Beams.

Luffy until the next chapter comes out, no quantifiable feats to say she can win.

Naruto was just playing around with her to gather intel.

So there is no way to scale anything until next chapter.

Scaling her Delta should win. At this point she is basically like the Naruto version of the androids from DBZ. It makes no sense some technology makes her this strong, but she seemingly is.

@skrskr: She's as fast as KSM, she has LS Beams that can't be healed, and she can pierce Naruto's cloak.

She beats Luffty.

@tetsukage: she was also as fast as base Naruto, and Naruto admitted to holding back so he can gather intel.

Nothing to scale off of from that.

She pierced his cloak with her leg because he allowed her to, he literally says he thought if she assumed he was weakened he could get intel so nothing special there either.

When did the light speed beam happen? This is too much for Luffy.

I’ve only read the chapter of her vs Naruto from the hype so if I missed that I would like to know where I can see it.

Luffy stomp hard,Delta has no feats which show she can even harm him

Delta solos OPverse as sad as it is.

for me, Luffy is better than Delta, so I would say Luffy.

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I swear, every chapter of Boruto that gets released makes Naruto look that much weaker.

Well, if Delta is really that close to a Otsutsuki Level is above War Arc KCM Naruto alone she should win here.

@tetsukage: just found the scans of chapter 32 and lol

Nothing says those beams move at light speed, they are described as a destructive beams of light and if that is all that is needed to be light speed then all of kizarus beams are light speed since they are destructive beams of light in the same sense. We both know this is BS

Also it literally says Naruto far outclasses delta in the chapter and if the kids weren’t there he could destroy her.

So again she has 0 quantifiable feats to say she can do anything to Luffy.

No striking relevant, no energy attack’s with destructive feats to say she can one shot.

Also 0 combat relevant speed feats since Naruto was holding back the whole time.

Also Kawaki literally outpaces the beam from her eyes, how are they light speed?

@skrskr: Beams of Light are beams of light.

It's consistent with Naruto, Might guy bending space = close to LS, Madara having Light Fang, Toneir having attacks that go expand 6000 miles in an instant......

It all adds up.

And the Kawaki part is 1 of 2 things, he predicted her or it's PIS.

To fair unlike Delta "light" attack,Kizaru's lasers has several light speed confirmation

@joviolma: she isn’t otsusuki level at all

Naruto allows her to stab him, he even says that he thought she would give him intel if she assumed he was weakened.

Naruto matches her in base and then goes full cloak

In chapter 32 in this chapter Boruto thinks Naruto is on the losing end and kawaki informs him that Naruto could easily overpower her but since they are there he can’t go full out and is dealing with her while keeping the kids safe.

She had eye lasers that were described as destructive beams of light that you can’t regen from, people assumed these are light speed but kawaki outpaces them with ease so idk how they would be even close to light speed.

@tetsukage: it is not consistent with anything when the second time she uses them they are outpaced by kawaki.

This is on panel Evidence it is not light speed.

Also if you say It is light speed because it is a beam of light

Then you have to concede kizarus and by extension pacifista light beams are light speed since they are literal beams of destructive light the same way deltas are described.

@skrskr: no its consistent.

@zxc6: yeah but for now the op community doesn’t really argue for light speed kizaru lasers since the feats haven’t really reached that level yet.

We know he can travel at light speed and kick at light speed for sure though.

@tetsukage: no it is not

Might guy had one move that was relativistic

Madara had one move that was light speed

And toneris blade didn’t extend 6,000 miles it only had to extend 2,159 miles which is the diameter of the moon.

6,000 would be the circumference.

It didn’t wrap around the moon it’s cut it in half so you would use the diameter.

And 2,000 miles per second is Mach 9,000

The speed of light is Mach 874,030

No where close.

Also again if you say it has to be light speed because of its description then you have to concede and say kizarus and Pacifistas beams of light are also light speed.

Delta godstomps

WTF..Luffy murder stomps.. naruto fans on this site are high as fuck, what are naruto's strength feats? Don't tell me he overpowered a moon slicer while in base so base naruto has country/continental lvl physicals and delta was able to damage so6p naruto who would scale of of that feat to be close to planet lvl physical stats and it's complete head canon if you think naruto can reduce the durability of his cloak when he or anyone in the entire show hasn't done it ,so delta able to damage naruto makes her now planet lvl,LOL!!

I'm going to say this now naruto doesn't have physicals above mountain lvl

Scaling,common sense and feats doesn't support him being higher..I mean the strongest attack in his arsenal is the bijuu bomb and its like country level at best and people really think base naruto's punch is as strong as that or even higher??

@skrskr: It's consistent with the series, nothing you posted changes this.

it wasn't a second it was an instant, so 2000 miles in a instant is still close to LS.

And no I don't because the high tier OP characters haven't shown LS like the Naruto ones do, it makes no sense for them to be LS in OP because they've never shown it. While they have in Naruto.

@tetsukage: except you have no on panel evidence for how long it took the beam to grow it’s length.

Even if you multiply the time I gave you times 10 and say it’s 2,000 miles in a tenth of a second that’s only Mach 90,000 which is still massively slower than light.

It isn’t consistent with anything, Madara had one light speed move, night guy is one move that is unquantifiably relativistic and toneris beam 100% is not the speed of light which I have proven through actual measurements.

Kawaki outsped the beam after it was fired, so if you are saying it’s light speed kawaki is MFTL and solos the verse

Raeligh literally has a light speed feat by reacting to kizarus travel technique after he was moving photons in the manga.

Delta>Toneri>>Pretty much Everyone from current One Piece. She Stomps

@skrskr:

1.) Except I do, in the Movie he expands it straight up and it's less than a second.

2.) Naruto reacted to it in base.

3.) it's consistence with the manga, Madara and Guy are near LS because Guy can bend space, Madara has LS attacks that don't work on Naruto, Kaguya can catch him off guard so she's near LS, it makes no sense for the manga to go backwards.

4.) we don't know how he did it, it's very possible that he predicted the attack and jumped before she fired the beam, she paused to taunt Naruto so this is possible.

5.) what LS feats do any character in OP have that prove either of those characters are LS? There are plenty of feats saying their not on that level yet, Naruto has every character post 8th gate proving LS is possible in Naruto.

You literally have no evidence to suggest it's not while I have manga consistency and forward progression plus is a "Light beam" in a verse where other "light beams" are indeed Light Speed.

Delta messed up should've never went after the Kids Naruto is about to go all out and ragdoll her now.

@tetsukage: you don’t read do you? Even if it expanded completely in 1/10th of a second that is only Mach 90,000

No where near light speed. Provide actual evidence or move along.

Naruto already knew about the technique so reacting to it in base means nothing as it was no where near light speed as proven with actual numbers he barely reacted to the swing the first time which is no where near the speed of the expansion in full cloak so that’s an anti feat right there.

Guy had one move that bent space that you can’t quantify at any percentage of the speed of light. He could have been moving 30% the speed of light and bent space and you couldn’t prove that number wrong regardless.

Also no one else bent space with movement speed after night guy, night guy is the fastest linear movement speed in the verse by feats, since he bent space with sheer speed everyone else’s combat speed was between 8th gates guy and night guy.

Also wrong, Naruto is in the air after the beam is fired with kawaki still haven’t moved from his spot, and then he intercepts the beam before it can hit Naruto.

So In you believe that kawaki can outpace a light speed beam which would make him MFTL.

And you grounds for consistentcy are Madaras light fang (the only light speed feat in the verse)

Guys night guy ( which you cannot quantify at any %of the speed of light due to physics)

Toneris beam expansion which if it only took 1/10 of a second to expand would only Make it Mach 90,000

You are wrong, good day sir

Also I don’t care about one piece being light speed at all, your initial argument was that “beams of light are beams of light” if you are retracting that and falling solely on consistency as your argument then i retract my kizaru lasers statement.

Also not all light beams are light speed in Naruto, take Darius storm release.

@skrskr:

>My first argument was that it was consistent with the manga, it is, you haven't proven me wrong.

> The moon beam is Sub rel and that was base Naruto, Guy was relativistic, and everyone above Guy is likely low LS.

Unless Delta enters the speedforce and uses her "2000 miles per instant" speed Luffy smacks her hard.

When Boruto and Kawaki can tank the punch of Delta and her beam of light but LUFFY can´t tank that? Her Light beam didn´t mentioned as Light speed beam, otherwise the beams from Px3 should light speed aswell which Luffy easily dodge after the Timeskip. Luffy can use Future sight, add his fastest form(Snakeman) and his physical strenght, he stomps Delta in the ground(Kids are even able to tank her attacks). It seems like current Naruto get weaker duo the years of doing nothing. I think Kurama even mentioned that in the spinoff of Naruto Gaiden.

Luffy smacks Boruto and Kawaki tanked her attacks.

@tetsukage: no one In Naruto moves at the speed of light, that’s why no one has ever bent space like night guy did.

Sub rel and rel are still way below light speed so 0 consistency with LS and faster than light.

Kawaki outsped the beam massively, it is not faster than light.

Delta

@skrskr: not going in circles you've yet to disprove that LS has been shown in Naruto which is also called a beam of light.

Delta is holding her own against a form of naruto superior to the one that fought toneri. Scaling wise she should be able to handle luffy but id wait for more feats.

DELTA COMPLETELY DECIMATES LUFFY NO DIFF,