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#1 Posted by Supermanthor (10488 posts) - - Show Bio
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r1 morals on

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who wins ?

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#3 Posted by Kevd4wg (11781 posts) - - Show Bio

Team mostly due to Vulcan. Surfer has a bad history witb draining

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#4 Posted by skywalker95 (3596 posts) - - Show Bio

Team Win R1

Norrin Slaughters Them in R2

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#5 Edited by Mooty_Pass (9496 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: Probably Team.

-I think Norrin is going to be holding back and the MVP's are Hyperion and Vulcan.

Round 2: Silver Surfer.

-Imo I think half the team may not be able to handle a morals off surfer. The fight may come down to Vulcan and Norrin.

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#7 Posted by skywalker95 (3596 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanthor: I don’t think so. Surfer himself is a Pretty Good Telepath (Not on her level) But he should be able to resist her long enough to Beat her

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#9 Posted by Mooty_Pass (9496 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanthor: She can affect him but. Eventually, he will overcome.

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#10 Posted by skywalker95 (3596 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanthor: no problem, Thanks for the Tag Dude

Keep up the good Work 👍

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#13 Posted by biswaboxz (3518 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 wins the round 1

Surfer wins the Round 2 .

I can't really ignore the fact Rachel can affect her who is an omega level mutant and I haven't seen Surfer to resist more than planetary level TP and Vulcan's absorbing abilities has certain limits . Hyperion brute strength could be problem to Surfer tbh .

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#14 Posted by Mister_Surreal (6325 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer wins with moderate effort.

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#17 Posted by IntoTheVoid (990 posts) - - Show Bio

INB4 "Iceman disintegrates Surfer"

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#18 Posted by Mister_Surreal (6325 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanthor: Congratulations!

@intothevoid: The Iceman wank is real.

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#21 Posted by Supermanthor (10488 posts) - - Show Bio

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#22 Edited by Mooty_Pass (9496 posts) - - Show Bio

@koays Do you think Rachel can affect Silver Surfer???

My stance was that should could, but not for long. I tagged you because your more knowledgeable about Rachel and maybe shed more light about this. What do you think???

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@koays Do you think Rachel can affect Silver Surfer???

My stance was that should could, but not for long. I tagged you because your more knowledgeable about Rachel and maybe shed more light about this. What do you think???

Yes she can. She has comparable (though much lower)TP to her brother Cable as the mutant Savior who was at least able to talk to him during their fight.

The thing is that, if he does have planetary TP resistance feats, then it's going to take a while time and against a bloodlusted Surfer who supposedly has Planetary TP resistance I can see her having to go after him similarly to how she did with the X-Men vs Exodus(another Omega Class telepath) fight where she was attacking him with complex telepathy and disabling his use of abilities but needed the other X-Men distracting him. Problem is that if Surfer spots her or realizes whats happening and lashes out she'll be a sitting duck.

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#24 Posted by Mooty_Pass (9496 posts) - - Show Bio

@koays said:
@mooty_pass said:

@koays Do you think Rachel can affect Silver Surfer???

My stance was that should could, but not for long. I tagged you because your more knowledgeable about Rachel and maybe shed more light about this. What do you think???

Yes she can. She has comparable (though much lower)TP to her brother Cable as the mutant Savior who was at least able to talk to him during their fight.

The thing is that, if he does have planetary TP resistance feats, then it's going to take a while time and against a bloodlusted Surfer who supposedly has Planetary TP resistance I can see her having to go after him similarly to how she did with the X-Men vs Exodus(another Omega Class telepath) fight where she was attacking him with complex telepathy and disabling his use of abilities but needed the other X-Men distracting him. Problem is that if Surfer spots her or realizes whats happening and lashes out she'll be a sitting duck.

I agree with your statement. I think that's one of the reasons the Team wins Round 1. I don't think Surfer can compensate for a TP attack while getting assaulted physically all at the same time. I will have to research, but I don't remember any concrete TP resistance of Surfer i'm sure hes got something, but....not sure.

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#25 Posted by biswaboxz (3518 posts) - - Show Bio
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Mind Gem Moondragon was resisted by SS during Infinity Crusade

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#27 Posted by Koays (10199 posts) - - Show Bio

@biswaboxz: He just tanked a psi blast, but that's very different from disabling his mind. Though I havent read crusade, my thought was that moondragon wasn't the one controlling everyone, which would be more in line with a TP resistance feat.

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#28 Posted by Eeef (1868 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer tends to hold back a lot when his morals are given. With being said, he should be able to take the second round comfortably.

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@koays: Well the same type of psi blast has put down Charles for good by Moondragon on Crusade . I am not much into TP manifestations therefore i cant really explain about this .

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#32 Edited by biswaboxz (3518 posts) - - Show Bio

@kevd4wg: You think Surfer has better TP resistance than Thanos ?

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@biswaboxz: If that's the feat I think it is then I've heard it was a surprise attack that put him in a coma. But yea it's a psi blast, not really what I was saying she was gonna do. But I'm getting the picture on Surfers defense.

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#36 Posted by destinyman75 (13334 posts) - - Show Bio

Morals on team has a chance

Morals off they Die