Sith Sorcerers (SW) vs Kido Masters (Bleach)

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#1  Edited By Turr

Star Wars Sith Sorcerers vs Bleach Kido Masters!

Rules:

- Dark Side users can not use lightsabers or any form of physical combat. Kido users can not use Zanpaktou (and it's abilities) or any form of physical combat.

- Starting distance - 100 meters.

- Location: non-populated city on an indestructible planet.

- We assume that SW characters can see and interact with spirit world of bleach.

- All magical or force abilties and rituals are allowed as long as they don't require physical contact via sword or a body part.

TEAMS:

Star Wars Sith Sorcerers team:

- Mother Talzin (full power)

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- Darth Sidious (canon RotS version)

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- Darth Nihilus

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Bleach Kido Masters team:

- Hachigen Ushoda (post-hollowfication)

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- Urahara Kisuke

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- Aizen Sosuke (pre-hogyoku)

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#2  Edited By maxxcveiler

aizen solos very quickly since Sidious is not EU.

this is a mismatch

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#3  Edited By Turr

@maxxcveiler: please note that Aizen can not use his Zanpaktou or it's powers and he can not use any physical sword skills whatsoever. Also this is Captain Aizen, not the immortal Aizen.

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aizen solos very quickly since Sidious is not EU.

Nihilus is still from EU and he is planetary level. Canon Sidious is pretty OP as well and Talzin rivals him.

this is a mismatch

Yeah it is. Star Wars characters won't break a sweat.

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#5  Edited By Godren

Kido is way to versatile.It has applications for everything and even time stop and stuff.Hachi is a kido casting master and very good at chaining them together,Kisuke can create new kido on the spot like how he sealed Aizen,and Aizen can cast high level kido casually without incantation.Aizen can prob solo.

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#6  Edited By Thoromdil

@godren: I'm not saying Kido ain't versatile. But it's just not on the level of SW top force users. Talzin can become intangible which makes her immune to basically anything and she can hack into your body freakin voodo style from half a cosmos away. Nihilus can suck an entire planet dry from energy and Sidious is freakin Sidious, his telekinesis alone is powerful enough to probably crush the throats of all 3 Bleach characters in the first second of the fight, before they can cast first spell, he doesn't even need to use his lightning.

Don't get me wrong I like Bleach a lot, but these SW characters are OP as hell!

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#7  Edited By Black_Of_Shadow

Nihilus more or less has a planet-wide Force Drain / Death Field. It was said that he "spoke" and everyone on Katarr died.

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Talzin solos. Nihilius solos

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I don't know that much about SW characters but unless they can survive a black hole Aizen should clear this alone.

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@comicgirl21: They don’t need to be able to survive a Black Hole cause Aizen can’t create one.

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@thevivas: ok ok mr. picky :P "kido that has enough power to warp space and time" whatever either way impossible to survive if you don't have ridiculous superhuman durability and SW characters with all their power still die to a laser shot/stab right?

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@comicgirl21: hmmm I didn't remember kido was this powerful. In that case Aizen is gonna be a problem here.

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#14 juiceboks  Moderator

All of these SW characters can "warp space and time" or are at the very least canonically more powerful than characters who can.

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#15  Edited By Vertigo-

Nihlus solos

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If Nihilus starts with his "Drain" the battle will end in a few seconds

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#18  Edited By Shadowwaker

Aizen controls all 5 senses. Force sense is not one of those senses.

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#19  Edited By Rac95

Aizen controls all 5 senses. Force sense is not one of those senses.

That is also an important bonus

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@comicgirl21: If you ignore certain abilities that allow them to block blaster bolts and lightsaber strikes with their hands, then sure.

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#22  Edited By ComicGirl21

@juiceboks: ummm when and where exactly did above star wars characters warped space and time?

Also I'm saying the durability difference is the major factor. SW characters have physical durability of normal humans and can't tank anything. Any kido spell that hits them kills them. Some are impossible to dodge too - Hachigen can teleport a barrier INSIDE YOUR GUTS in a split second.

Random Bleach characters can shrugg dirrect hits that level a city block in the face without a scratch. And these are top tiers. It's a stomp.

Aizen still solos.

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The SW team wins.

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@thevivas: Yeah he is a small fry right? Killing Barragan, by far the most powerful espada and one of the most powerful characters in the series is no big feat right?

Also feats aside, Captain class shinigami who can further increase his physical stats and power with hollow mask is a top tier in my book. Obviously he is not a "top 10" or anything, but he is very powerful and kido-wise he is probably the best or at least in top 3.

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#26  Edited By reikai

Hachi can put a barrier around Sid's head then teleport it straight up Nihilus' rectum. Seriously Hachi solos.

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@comicgirl21: He’s nowhere close to being top tier and it’s laughable to think Barrangan is one of the most powerful characters in the series.

“In your book” is clearly wrong because he’s not a top tier.

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#28  Edited By juiceboks  Moderator

@comicgirl21:

ummm when and where exactly did above star wars characters warped space and time?

Darth Plageuis has described teleportation as "moving through time and space", Mother Talzin has displayed this ability and Sidious is canonically more powerful than her. Sidious' Dark Side adepts also know this ability, and Nihilus has casually displayed power that takes them rituals and Sidious' assistance to do over a prolonged period of time. Nihilus himself has torn a star destroyer sized battleship out of an gravity well powerful enough to rip a planet in half.

SW characters have physical durability of normal humans and can't tank anything.

Even barring passive force shields this isn't even remotely true. Sweeping generalizations just make you look more ignorant.

Any kido spell that hits them kills them

That depends on the power of the spell but all three of these characters have the means to defend themselves from taking a direct hit regardless.

Some are impossible to dodge too

There are none like this.

Hachigen can teleport a barrier INSIDE YOUR GUTS in a split second.

Which he's only done to a stationary target.

Random Bleach characters can shrugg dirrect hits that level a city block in the face without a scratch. And these are top tiers. It's a stomp.

This is a battle of esoteric powers, most of which bypass standard durability levels. The above mentioned feat is of consequence to someone like Nihilus who has drained a planet of life with only a thought.

Aizen still solos

He can't even kill Nihilus (who has no physical form to attack) and he has no defense against his draining abilities, telekinesis or telepathy.

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@thevivas: Who is more powerful then Barragan? Can you name more then 5 characters? His damage output is the best in the entire series. Only Yamamoto has power somewhat comparable in destructive potential. He turns ANYTHING into dust with respira. Physical and spiritual, he even turns barriers into dust. His ability can not be tanked, contained, dodged or escaped in any way. It can outrun the best shunpo user in bleach. The best you can do is briefly prolong your life by spamming barriers in it's way. Then we've got his speed. Soi Fon, mentioned fastest shunpo user moved in slow motion next to him. He tagged her EASILY in his base form. Finally his durability. He took a bankai so powerful it needs THREE DAYS TO RECHARGE after a single shot directly in the face in a sealed barrier and he still laughed.

Can you tell me how much more OP can you get, exactly? I mean besides characters who are specifically immortal like Aizen or Yuha and Yamamoto who has similar dps and equally well rounded stats I can't think of anyone. And Hachi BEAT THIS GUY! He wrecks the SW characters above. Not to mention...

Aizen solos. :)

@reikai: thank you! Finally someone with a brain.

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Nihlus still solos. Planetary level drain GG

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#31  Edited By TheVivas

@comicgirl21: Just the literal fact that you think Barragan is a top 5 character in Bleach is enough to tell me you have no idea what you’re talking about.

“His damage output is the best in the entire series”. His damage output isn’t even the best out of the Espada, let alone the entire series. That’s an embarrassing claim.

“His ability cannot be tanked, dodged, or escaped in any way” have you even Bleach? You’re flat out lying if you believe that.

Aizen is soloing a guy who can Drain the life off an entire planet and two more characters? I don’t think so.

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@thevivas: you obviously know nothing about Barragan, espada or about Bleach in general. Ability to erase anything from existance with an attack that can't be dodged by fastest shinigami you call not OP? And you bring NO ARGUMENTS on top of that? You're a waste of my time.

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@comicgirl21: Oh the irony in that post. You’re right, you are a waste of my time. Try actually finishing Bleach before making asinine statements like the ones you’ve made is this thread, then someone might take you seriously.

Barragan being the strongest in the series literally had me falling off the couch laughing.

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@comicgirl21: Barragan doesn't really have one of most destructive abilities, but one of the most hax. He is essentially Entropy. His field slows down time around him, thus negating any speed advantage and his ability to decay anything he touches accelerates time on what he touches to the point entropy has taken over and things turn to dust as if weathered over the course of tens of thousands and millions of years.

The problem is Barragan doesn't really have absolute control of this, nor is he immune to his own power. It only didn't affect him when it was projected outwardly as he could protect himself. Hachi teleported his own decaying hand inside of Barragan's body, passed his protections, and infected him with his own entropy and decay. So Hachi didn't win by overpowering him, but just by using Barragan's own hax against him.

Barragan really isn't one of the strongest in the series, but he was still one of the most dangerous and caustic because of his time powers. You couldn't actually fight him directly. Not unless you could cancel his time field.

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SW team.