Sinister Six vs X-men

Sinister Six

• Doc Ock.
• Mysterio.
• Shocker.
• Rhino.
• Sandman.
• Electro.

Vs

X-men

• Cyclops.
• Colossus.
• Storm.
• Wolverine.
• Beast.
• Nightcrawler.

Rules

• 616/Standard versions.
• Both sides have good teamwork.
• Win via death or KO.
• Begin 40 meters apart.
• Who wins and why?

@mrsyg@professorrespect@blackspidey2099@sirkaboom16@waitomegastorm

The Sinister Six stomp. Basically all that's needed is Mysterio and Sandman, both could even solo tbh. But for the sake of it, let's walk through the fight between the two teams;

Mysterio would easily trick all of the X-Men. Of all of them Logan has the best senses and I think he's been tricked by Beck before. If not, then it should still be in his capabilities to trick all of them. So while the X-Men are desorientated the S6 can take out the two who are a threat to Sandman; Storm and Cyclops (via heat etc.). Both are glass canons and would be oneshotted by any S6 member. At that point Sandman can't even be remotely threatened anymore and the S6 he and Mysterio can solo the rest.

Mysterio could solo by making Logan believe that the X-Men are the S6. We've seen it in Old Man Logan and I doubt it will go any different in 616. Sandman could solo by K.O.'ing Storm and Cyclops before they do something and then he can effortlessly take out the rest.

Yea I like this take

OT: By versatility the X-Men have far more to give out but with Mysterio clouding their coordination and with guys like Rhino and Sandman around many of the street tier guys there can't stand very long. Colossus is really the only guy there who can afford to take big blows from them but I'm not sure he can take him 1 v 1 considering his history with lesser bricks like Blob and the difficulty he's had with them. If no Mysterio, this would be a lot more combative.

Beast is useless as per usual. Even the weakest members of the S6 like Ock and Shocker can still be a fair threat to them.

X-Men Stomps. Storm, Cyclops, Colossus and Nightcrawler can handle this easily.

Mysterio’s gas will be easily dissipated by the Storm Winds or Colossus Thunderclaps, Electro isn’t doing much with Storm on the field, Sandman get oneshotted by Cyke or Ororo since he’s not fast enough to get close to both 40 meters away, Rhino gets clowned by Beast and Nightcrawler and possibly is soled by Wolverine and I don't see Shocker being a big threat and the same with Ock.

Yeah I’d back the S6.

This post was still somewhat legit before that sentence, lol. Good bait brah

@professorrespect: lol bait? how is Rhino touching Kurt if he spams his teleports? and Beast is smart enough to use his agility against someone like Rhino who doesn't even come close to being smartest ones in the S6 or versatile.

@professorrespect: well i'm not saying that they can beat Rhino in an individual fight but both together are enough to cause distraction, Rhino is not tagging both at the same time.

If "bloodlust" and out of character behavior is allowed

I can see night crawler teleporting heads off and teleporting multiple swords into people

I can see storm keeping people from breathing and stopping electricity to keep hearts from beating

I mean what good is sandman if he's been dispersed by a tornado, spread across a country or flash frozen

It's standard versions tho, which usually implies regular morals

I think Storm is just a target for the bigger guys to take her out if she starts causing a fuss

@professorrespect: well, there's too much fodder on the x team

Cyclops is a glass Canon

Same with storm, take them out and the team is ougunned

Mysterios illussions already make the fight a mess

The X-men stomp

I think this one could go either way due to the writing. Cyclops could put them on the defensive pretty fast and Colossus could take out anyone who might have a chance of surviving his optic blast. Sandman is a wild card, he could take out a few x-men from a distance, but Storm might be able to just fry Sandman if she gets panicked. I could see Wolverine's senses giving him the win against Mysterio. I lean X-Men in this one. They have the best range attacks, but I'm thinking 7-3 or 8-2, not every time.

It would also depend on who strikes first. If Mysterio could disorient or weaken a few X-Men then I could see the 6 taking it.

Storm sends in a tornado to deal with the majority.

Are you saying Logan would solo the rest of his team?

Nah, I meant that he could make all of them kill each other. I could have phrased it better tbh.

Still, Logan would likely be capable of taking out the majority of the team (Colossus, Cyclops and Beast) on his own.

@mrsyg: Oh ok. gotcha

Rhino gets fodderized, courtesy of Alpha Flight Special #1

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Ah yes, Wolverine cut him so he wins. I guess Thanos and Mangog also get fodderized by Logan now.

@mrsyg: well at least they didn't cry about it

Storm can borderline solo this.

People are severely underestimating the X-Men or hilariously overrating the S6

Actually Logan's (Old Man Logan, but he's the same character with the same stats, just reduced healing factor) senses have been shown to have no resistance to Mysterio's stuff.

This as Mysterio can't do any illusions when he's blown away into another state by Storm as the fight begins not to mention she can spam lighting for days.

@noobmaster2001: You accidentally tagged the wrong person.

Storm beats all of them execpt for Sandman maybe she can freeze him or send his sand far away

I like the mutants here

Doc Ock is beating most of the X-Men anyway, and that's not even considering the fact that Electro makes Storm useless, and Mysterio probably solos.

Bump

Sandman should be the most easiest one for her to beat. X-men ftw

@noobmaster2001: This seems a little lopsided in the favor of the X-men imo with the inclusions of Storm and Collossus who have some pretty impressive higher end feats to be going up against Streer levilish tier villains. The inclusion of Shocker here really detriments the Six imo, if you were to replace him with Venom, Scorpion, Green Goblin, or even maybe Kraven I think it would be a better balanced engagement on the whole. I also think the Six could do with just a bit of prep time.

@noobmaster2001: This seems a little lopsided in the favor of the X-men imo with the inclusions of Storm and Collossus who have some pretty impressive higher end feats to be going up against Street levilish tier villains. The inclusion of Shocker here really detriments the Six imo, if you were to replace him with Venom, Scorpion, Green Goblin, or even maybe Kraven I think it would be a better balanced engagement on the whole. I also think the Six could do with just a bit of prep time.

You got Mysterio, Sandman, Rhino all here....they ain't street? X-Men got more useless members. Storm's a glass cannon, Colossus is a shitter brick by comparison to Rhino.

really? didn't know that

@professorrespect: That's why I said Streetish. Mysterios durability is certainly street level, and while taking him out wont be an easy feat to pull off if Kurt can get to him quickly, or if Storm manages to circumvent his illusionary gasses he could be neutralized effectively. Rhino also doesnt hold a candle to Juggernaut, who the X-men have to deal with frequently, and he can be dealt with here by pretty much anyone other than Beast, or Kurt (only directly, I think Kurt could pretty successfully distract or best Rhino via tactics and evasion.), while Cyclops might not be able to drop him, he should be able to at least keep him a comfortable distance away with his beams.

Meanwhile I dont really see how any of the Six will be able to handle Storm or Colossus unless Mysterio really comes in clutch for them. Colossus has gone even with the Red Hulk, which puts him comfortably above Rhino, and I'd say hes durable enough to handle pretty much anything the Six can dish out at him here. Meanwhile Storm has the best mobility of any member on this team, in addition to countering Sandman well, and having the best raw power as well.

Omg S6 wank is insane.

Electro making Storm useless? Ock soloing almost everyone? Storm being caught by anyone with range since the opposite is more easier to happen when Scott and especially Ororo has the greatest range among all the characters here lol

X-Men stomps pretty easily.

Cyclops takes his visor off, takes out most of the s6, storm takes out the remainder

@professorrespect: Regular Colossus had a fight with Red Hulk with was causing massive destruction IIRC.

I mean.....that's pretty decent, but Colossus isn't exactly Rulk tier consistently. Most of his fights are him struggling with Blob-level foes.

@professorrespect: I’d agree, just wanted to give more information on that fight.

@professorrespect: Who here has the range to take out Storm? I doubt Electro can put her down, that leaves Shocker and maybe Sandman (but with the capability of dispersing him with gale force winds that doesnt seem likely.) Shes got the advantage of flight that none of the Six here have, and seems to me would be difficult for them to circumvent while she blasts them with lightning. And while this team hasn't defeated Juggs directly themselves they do encounter him often enough, and are able to survive their encounters with him, Rhino plays more or less the same game plan as Juggs while just being far less effective at it. It's usually spidermans mobility and ingenuity that get the better of the Rhino, and this team has that with Kurt and Beast, plus i dont think Rhino has the kind of feats to suggest he can continually face tank energy blasts from Cyclops or Ororos lightning.