Silver Surfer VS Wonder Woman, Raven, and Maxima
-Composite(Post-Crisis and onward) feats, at standard-power, for the team.
-Win by any means.
Silver Surfer VS Wonder Woman, Raven, and Maxima
-Composite(Post-Crisis and onward) feats, at standard-power, for the team.
-Win by any means.
Surfer more often than not... the only legitimate threat is Raven. unless of course Wonder Woman is at her "Skyfather tier" and then she stomps Odin, Galactus, and The Silver Surfer all at once
Surfer more often than not... the only legitimate threat is Raven. unless of course Wonder Woman is at her "Skyfather tier" and then she stomps Odin, Galactus, and The Silver Surfer all at once
lol
Surfer more often than not... the only legitimate threat is Raven. unless of course Wonder Woman is at her "Skyfather tier" and then she stomps Odin, Galactus, and The Silver Surfer all at once
Surfer more often than not... the only legitimate threat is Raven. unless of course Wonder Woman is at her "Skyfather tier" and then she stomps Odin, Galactus, and The Silver Surfer all at once
If Silver Surfer is at his "Legitimately" Solo Superman, Wonder Woman, Hal Jordan Green Lantern, Captain Atom, and Major Force level, he defeats the three mere females by giving them a single slightly annoyed glare.
Afterwards of which, they all immediately slump to the cold, hard ground in a crumpled heap, a gurgled, frightened, despair filled whimper escaping from their lips as they go.
Most likely, Surfer is lassoed by a woman who has done the same to beings with combat speed at least as good as his, that has bound and usurped the wills of several beings at least in his power tier, while simultaneously receiving the added pressure of Maxima's top tier TP further wiping away his will to resist, and Raven bringing it home by doing all sorts of unspeakable things to his soul.
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After all, this is Comic Vine, where only that type of discussion occurs.
I'm not the most knowledgeable on Surfer but I swear he can bust solar systems, have a wide variety of powers and can process and scan planets in moments whilst travelling at MTFL speeds
Surfer travelling at high speeds is awesome. He doesn't use combat speed as often, or as well, though.
The lasso has restrained, and usurped the wills of lots of solar system busters.
Wonder Woman through her bracelets, force field, and body has withstood the Destroy 10 Star Systems In One Go blasts of The Void Hound, the entire Olympian Gods Pantheon's God Blasts, and protected herself (and team mate Martian Manhunter) from the point blank AOE blast of a Quantum Zealot, beings who are more powerful than 5th dimensional Imps like Myxzptlk---that would seem to indicate the Amazon can protect herself and her team from Radd's attacks, and implement the offense against him mentioned in post 8 for the victory.
Evidence indicates it's not at all far fetched for the ladies to win.
Surfer uses his cosmic awareness to figure out that his solar system level energy blasts that are capable of slicing planets in half upon contact are uselesss against Wonder Woman and instead decides to transmute a rock into a knife. Then he stabs Wonder Woman to death.
If Wonder Woman's bracelets or shields are capable of repelling trauma like the entire Olympian Gods Pantheon's God Blasts, and protected herself (and team mate Martian Manhunter) from the point blank AOE blast of a Quantum Zealot, beings who are more powerful than 5th dimensional Imps like Myxzptlk---they are somehow "not" going to repel far, faaaar weaker trauma like a knife?
?????
Not to mention, while Surfer was trying to perform that miracle of somehow harming Diana with something far weaker than the other stuff she's blocked, Maxima and Raven would just stand around and let Radd do that thing because---just because??
????????
Ummmm....
Yeah.
Could go either way. Surfer has the power, but the team has speed, fighting skill, numbers, and versatility on their side.
Could go either way. Surfer has the power, but the team has speed, fighting skill, numbers, and versatility on their side.
Eh?
Maximas tp won't do anything to Surfer, and they aren't on his caliber in physicals, powers, or overall hax. Surfer has a million and two ways to take them down, while they have few. If Surfer is serious, they are defeated decisively. If Surfer is jobbing, they dominate him.
This is why girls shouldn't be allowed to fight in comics.
Skyfather-level Wonder Woman solos.
Skyfather-level Wonder Woman solos.
If Silver Surfer is at his "Legitimately" Solo Superman, Wonder Woman, Hal Jordan Green Lantern, Captain Atom, and Major Force level, he defeats the three mere females by giving them a single slightly annoyed glare.
Afterwards of which, they all immediately slump to the cold, hard ground in a crumpled heap, a gurgled, frightened, despair filled whimper escaping from their lips as they go.
"This is why girls shouldn't be allowed to fight in comics"
This why "debating" on Comic Vine is so rewarding. Points of a a post are always discussed in detailed, nuanced fashion, and resorting to irrelevant taunts, off topic jibes, and silly gifs aren't ever utilized.
Conversing in such stellar conditions is so exhilarating. The joy it produces is unabashedly awe inspiring.
Not since the Lincoln/Douglass debates have such stellar discussions been witnessed.
The team win with little problems. I don't know much about Maxima, but TheOneWhoKnows already mentioned what WW can do.
Raven can solo anyway, she had taken down almost instantly, with her soul self, some as Titaness Rhea, the mother of Olympus gods (Zeus, Ares and all others), or a bloodlusted Orion, battle ready and in his full war gear.
Or snatched and teleported against his will Flash Wally, who was as well alert and face to face with Raven.
I don't even mentioned what she can do when not holding back because it will become an easy stomp
Silver Surfer is sort of slow as combat speed and way too inconsistent with his feats and abilities. Again, not sure about Maxima but both WW and Raven might beat him on the draw and as combat speed, and have the means to put him down.
I mean he have a long list of low showings or loses against some as Spiderman, Carnage symbiote, Daredevil, Black Panther, slower brawlers like Thor, Hulk, Thing and so on.
here for example against some girls (She Hulk, Clea and another one)
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/3/37144/1292916-screenshot323.jpg
here vs Spiderman and Daredevil
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/3/37144/1292705-screenshot202.jpg
and ofcourse this gem (what was that "cosmic awarness" thing again?)
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11118/111189484/4151450-8803138052-28136.jpg
I am sure SS have some high feats too, but for me it looks way too inconsistent
If Silver Surfer is at his "Legitimately" Solo Superman, Wonder Woman, Hal Jordan Green Lantern, Captain Atom, and Major Force level, he defeats the three mere females by giving them a single slightly annoyed glare.
Afterwards of which, they all immediately slump to the cold, hard ground in a crumpled heap, a gurgled, frightened, despair filled whimper escaping from their lips as they go.
"This is why girls shouldn't be allowed to fight in comics"
This why "debating" on Comic Vine is so rewarding. Points of a a post are always discussed in detailed, nuanced fashion, and resorting to irrelevant taunts, off topic jibes, and silly gifs aren't ever utilized.
Conversing in such stellar conditions is so exhilarating. The joy it produces is unabashedly awe inspiring.
Not since the Lincoln/Douglass debates have such stellar discussions been witnessed.
umm are you trying to prove the Team would beat Surtur after Surtur put up a fight against a Galactus tier being lol
@_kingoflatveria: i do believe he is...
hold on i need screenshots of this
@_kingoflatveria: i do believe he is...
hold on i need screenshots of this
screenshots fo what?
@_kingoflatveria: of his response of course...
If Silver Surfer is at his "Legitimately" Solo Superman, Wonder Woman, Hal Jordan Green Lantern, Captain Atom, and Major Force level, he defeats the three mere females by giving them a single slightly annoyed glare.
Afterwards of which, they all immediately slump to the cold, hard ground in a crumpled heap, a gurgled, frightened, despair filled whimper escaping from their lips as they go.
"This is why girls shouldn't be allowed to fight in comics"
This why "debating" on Comic Vine is so rewarding. Points of a a post are always discussed in detailed, nuanced fashion, and resorting to irrelevant taunts, off topic jibes, and silly gifs aren't ever utilized.
Conversing in such stellar conditions is so exhilarating. The joy it produces is unabashedly awe inspiring.
Not since the Lincoln/Douglass debates have such stellar discussions been witnessed.
umm that's Aegis/Tennabrus(Can't differentiate) both of which are on par with Galactus the Devourer. Are you trying to tell me the team would beat Surtur based on him losing to her?
That's quite hilarious lol
@_kingoflatveria: of his response of course...
WW is above skyfather tier bruh.
Deal with it
Why do people keep saying that WW is skyfather tier? I miss something?
Apparently, she's consistently blocked blows from beings above 5th dimensional beings like Batmite so now she's skyfather tier
Could go either way. Surfer has the power, but the team has speed, fighting skill, numbers, and versatility on their side.
Eh?
Surfer has better travel speed, but his combat speed is inconsistent at best. Wonder Woman and Maxima both have super speed that they use in combat regularly. WW has vastly better fighting skills than SS. And the team has magic and magical equipment on their side, giving them an overall versatility advantage over Surfer.
Surfer can win here, but if he's doing his typical thing where he doesnt fully use his powers, then he can also lose.
Lock this thread, Silver Surfer got one-shotted by Odin and there's already a Skyfather-buster on the other team.
lol
10/10 comment
Surfer takes this, however not without some effort. He has a wide enough array of abilities that will ensure victory, among them being high end matter manipulation/transmutation abilities.
I will provide scans and a more lengthy argument for this when able.
and WW is NOT a "Skyfather buster". Just FYI.
^^^
She's Beyond Omega Level Mutant tier
and WW is NOT a "Skyfather buster". Just FYI.
^^^
She's Beyond Omega Level Mutant tier
she's DC "High Tier", no doubt about that. However, what exactly do you have to substantiate your claim? how do you base that? as opposed to what? And keep in mind, a feat is good and all...................but how many times has it been done? a singular, even duo showing of an ability/feat does not equate into a set power level. saaavy?
scans and issue numbers to back up your claims please. And keep in mind.....context as well.
@warlockmage: what does it mean for Wonder Woman to be skyfather? Is it her fanboys or has she revealed that level in the comics at one point somehow?
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