- Post Annihilation, Worthy Thor, Pre/New 52/Rebirth feats
- Battle on the Moon
- Win by Death or KO
- No BFR
@xlr87t3: oh ya know, no selling planetary explosions, creating black holes, dishing out planet busting energy attacks, surfing supernovae, surviving attacks from galactic level entities, along with his slew of hax such as intangibility, molecule manipulation, energy absorption(particularly potent in this matchup), telepathy, etc.
I’m not sure about the context behind the sun eaters and the speed force singularity, but nearly planet busting energies aren’t going to scratch the surfer at the top of his game.
Bloodlusted Thor alone is a hard fight for Surfer. Hal would tip the favour.
We all remember Blood and Thunder right? Where a bloodlusted Thor went around stomping the hell out of almost anyone. He pounded Surfer and Beta Ray Bill as well Adam Warlock. A bloodlusted Thor is a true team buster.
@xlr87t3: surfer almost dying to a moon busting Attack is a low showing, he’s no sold much more before his amp in annihilation. Can I get some scans or some context for the feats you mentioned because so far afaik you haven’t given me anything that surfer can’t tank and dish back twice as hard. What has Hal done to put him so far above planet busting? And why is Hal gonna one shot surfer when surfer hasn’t been one shotted or even ko’d After beatings from those more powerful.
@xlr87t3: I love how you mention a low-end feat for Silver Surfer yet forget to mention how it took Rebirth Jordan alot of power to destroy a planet and almost died.
While there are 2 or more feats of Silver Surfer tanking planet busting attacks.
So lowballing one character while highballing the other one just shows how biased you are.
@baph: Rebirth Hal doesn't need to even attack or even be present to destroy a planet. His residual energy from his ring (which Kyle picked up and wore) was gonna blow up Mogo. And Hal was completely immortal when he self destructed, so it isn't even a low showing. Surfer can't kill Hal by conventional means, he's made of energy and will just heal.
@baph: Silver Surfer is humiliated on a regular basis by anyone and everyone, and especially by the Odinson (who wouldn't even defeat Jessica Cruz), Rebirth Hal Jordan is completely overpowered in almost every other issue. How is it lowballing to tell the clear difference in power between the two?
@xlr87t3: oh please surfers only ever actually lost to Thor when he had the warriors madness and was fighting above his normal levels. Surfer fodderized Bill, Thor’s equal. Quit lowballing surfer. And Thor would lay a beat down on Jessica from what I’ve seen.
@xlr87t3: Because you're mentioning low-end feats for Surfer but using high-end feats for Hal, using inconsistency for Surfer, but act as if Hal is consistently a casual planet buster, mentioning 1 or 2 high-end feats won't change that, or scaling him to other characters, and then mention their high-end feats as if it were consistent for them.
@baph: In Rebirth, Hal is CONSISTENTLY star level. I only mentioned a few feats, there's more where that came from. Saying that the feats I've mentioned are high end feats is disingenuous, it's like saying Superman's moon busting feats are HIGH END.
An example of inconsistency is Silver Surfer winning a fight against Thor.
@xlr87t3: despite surfer being able to fodderize Thor’s equal... Thor has in general a good power set to fight against surfer as well. Great energy durability, no power source to drain, mjolnir to counter surfers hax, all are traits that are favorable for an encounter with surfer, yet he can still only win when he’s operating above his normal levels.... add in the fact in the majority of their encounters surfer is clearly holding back.
@xlr87t3: What Moon level attack did Surfer die from? You surely can't mean Infinity Crusade, where he was out because he was overloaded by absorbing energies from a red giant that just happen to explode as he came in contact with a moon. That does not mean the blast was only moon level.
Context is your best friend.
@phillip33: Warrior Madness isn't an amp, it's just a bloodlusted Thor and Hulk smashed him. Fact is that Bill got fodderized by an unarmed Odinson, he's nothing to him, and even then Bill still wrecked Silver Surfer later after the latter cheapshotted him (that was a Bill who was just inside a planet explosion), proving that Beta Ray Bill is equal to Silver Surfer but not Thor.
Hal Jordan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Odinson >>>>> BRB = Silver Surfer
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