Silver Banshee vs Invisible Woman

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The Silver Banshee VS The Invisible Woman

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-R1 Basic Knowledge

-R2 Random Encounter

-Victory By KO/Death

-Starting 85 feet apart

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R1: Sue her shields should tank everything Banshee has to throw against it

R2: Sue but in a closer fight

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Silver Banshee wins with basic knowledge, but Sue definitely wins in a random encounter

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I'm sorry I do not know this Silver Banshee. Based on her name i'm guessing she can scream loud??

How is that affective against Sue Richards?

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#7  Edited By Rac95

@samgee: Is she using sound like Black Canary, or has Silver Banshee some other kind of energy in her voice?

And how does she stack up in power in comparison between other voice-users like Dinah or Black Bolt?

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@rac95: Hypersonics through her voice. Superman compare her screams to a bunch of Atomic bombs going off in your head. Supergirl says she scream with the noise of a billion decimals

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@geekryan said:

Silver Banshee wins with basic knowledge, but Sue definitely wins in a random encounter

What would Banshee do with basic knowledge to give her a win?

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@rac95: Hypersonics through her voice. Superman compare her screams to a bunch of Atomic bombs going off in your head. Supergirl says she scream with the noise of a billion decimals

If the energy itself is faster than sound too, she could maybe surprise Sue in a random encounter

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I'm sorry I do not know this Silver Banshee. Based on her name i'm guessing she can scream loud??

How is that affective against Sue Richards?

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Silver Banshee wins with basic knowledge, but Sue definitely wins in a random encounter

What would Banshee do with basic knowledge to give her a win?

Instant kill via name-screaming etc

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@professorrespect: could she do that before Bubble to the brain or would it still affect her through shields? If so then yeah

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@professorrespect: could she do that before Bubble to the brain or would it still affect her through shields? If so then yeah

The fact that people still think morals on Sue is busting brains with TK bubbles is only half-funny. Either way, she's simply not fast enough in this condition.

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@professorrespect: could she do that before Bubble to the brain or would it still affect her through shields? If so then yeah

The fact that people still think morals on Sue is busting brains with TK bubbles is only half-funny. Either way, she's simply not fast enough in this condition.

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@geekryan said:

Silver Banshee wins with basic knowledge, but Sue definitely wins in a random encounter

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#18  Edited By geekryan
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What about Silver Banshee allows her to win with basic knowledge?

Sue wins in both rounds.

This was answered above, and Silver Banshee's RT was linked: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/respect-silver-banshee-complete-respect-thread-2072930/

Her screams are powerful enough to harm Supergirl and Superman; she can instantly kill people by speaking someone's name, which is where the basic knowledge comes in; her physicals are good enough to contend against Supergirl and tank a nuclear bomb; and she can transfer her soul into someone's body if she is injured or killed.

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@geekryan said:
@sirdragonfly said:

What about Silver Banshee allows her to win with basic knowledge?

Sue wins in both rounds.

This was answered above, and Silver Banshee's RT was linked: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/respect-silver-banshee-complete-respect-thread-2072930/

Her screams are powerful enough to harm Supergirl and Superman; she can instantly kill people by knowing their name, which is where the basic knowledge comes in; her physicals are good enough to contend against Supergirl and tank a nuclear bomb; and she can transfer her soul into someone's body if she is injured or killed.

Both Supergirl and Superman have superhearing so that could have contributed.

The death hax seems op though. Can Banshee kill Thanos if she learns that his name is Dione?

AFAIK, Supergirl and Superman have enough control over their hearing that they can choose not to have it active. They have also been able to block out other sounds to focus on something specific. There was never any indication that Silver Banshee's powers have a greater affect on them due to their enhanced hearing.

As for killing Thanos, it's possible she could if she really wanted to but no way to say for sure. Her powers are magic-based.

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#21  Edited By Scarlet_Wiccan
@geekryan said:

Silver Banshee wins with basic knowledge, but Sue definitely wins in a random encounter

Wouldn't Sue just cover her mouth with Basic knowledge? Since she has to say someone's name or touch them for her death wail to work, Looking at her RT she doesn't seem to use her death wail a lot or on anyone that isn't fodder.

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I can see SB winning only via spirit possession but it's not something she does much.

I also don't think SB can counter Sue's invisibility?

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@geekryan said:

Silver Banshee wins with basic knowledge, but Sue definitely wins in a random encounter

Wouldn't Sue just cover her mouth with Basic knowledge? Since she has to say someone's name or touch them for her death wail to work, Looking at her RT she doesn't seem to use her death wail a lot or on anyone that isn't fodder.

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I can see SB winning only via spirit possession but it's not something she does much.

I also don't think SB can counter Sue's invisibility?

Are you basing all your knowledge of SB from her RT?

Even if Sue does cover her mouth, she can still use her sonic scream since it doesn't involve talking. She has used the death wail on Superman, who isn't fodder, and it only didn't kill him because she said his superhero name and not his real name. He was still put in a coma from this.

Spirit possession isn't used often because she isn't severely injured or killed.

Invisibility isn't a huge factor considering the massive area that her sonic scream can affect, and it wouldn't help against the death wail.

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#23  Edited By Scarlet_Wiccan
@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:
@geekryan said:

Silver Banshee wins with basic knowledge, but Sue definitely wins in a random encounter

Wouldn't Sue just cover her mouth with Basic knowledge? Since she has to say someone's name or touch them for her death wail to work, Looking at her RT she doesn't seem to use her death wail a lot or on anyone that isn't fodder.

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I can see SB winning only via spirit possession but it's not something she does much.

I also don't think SB can counter Sue's invisibility?

Are you basing all your knowledge of SB from her RT?

Even if Sue does cover her mouth, she can still use her sonic scream since it doesn't involve talking. She has used the death wail on Superman, who isn't fodder, and it only didn't kill him because she said his superhero name and not his real name. He was still put in a coma from this.

Spirit possession isn't used often because she isn't severely injured or killed.

Invisibility isn't a huge factor considering the massive area that her sonic scream can affect, and it wouldn't help against the death wail.

She definitely needs to open her mouth to scream, unless proven otherwise.

So she hasn't killed anyone that's not fodder with her death wail?

If Sue keeps her mouth closed like above she won't be able to scream and based on her RT she only used her death wail by speaking or by touching people which is not going to happen if Sue has basic knowledge on her

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@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:
@geekryan said:

Silver Banshee wins with basic knowledge, but Sue definitely wins in a random encounter

Wouldn't Sue just cover her mouth with Basic knowledge? Since she has to say someone's name or touch them for her death wail to work, Looking at her RT she doesn't seem to use her death wail a lot or on anyone that isn't fodder.

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I can see SB winning only via spirit possession but it's not something she does much.

I also don't think SB can counter Sue's invisibility?

Are you basing all your knowledge of SB from her RT?

Even if Sue does cover her mouth, she can still use her sonic scream since it doesn't involve talking. She has used the death wail on Superman, who isn't fodder, and it only didn't kill him because she said his superhero name and not his real name. He was still put in a coma from this.

Spirit possession isn't used often because she isn't severely injured or killed.

Invisibility isn't a huge factor considering the massive area that her sonic scream can affect, and it wouldn't help against the death wail.

She definitely needs to open her mouth to scream, unless proven otherwise. So she hasn't killed anyone that's not fodder with her death wail?

If Sue keeps her mouth closed like above she won't be able to scream and based on her RT she only used her death wail by speaking or by touching people which is not going to happen if Sue has basic knowledge on her

Anyone is capable of screaming without their mouth being open. Her powers are magic-based and can affect souls.

She hasn't killed anyone that isn't fodder, but considering what she did to Superman, Sue might as well be fodder. He got put into a coma, so Sue would be killed outright.

She doesn't need to touch people to kill them.

Silver Banshee is also faster than Sue, considering she can keep up with Superman and Supergirl.

I gave Sue the win without basic knowledge, but it would be a tough fight regardless, especially since Silver Banshee can't be killed and could just possess Sue if she gets killed.

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I think Banshee could win with basic knowledge. But I'm not sure who would win in a random encounter.

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@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:
@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:
@geekryan said:

Silver Banshee wins with basic knowledge, but Sue definitely wins in a random encounter

Wouldn't Sue just cover her mouth with Basic knowledge? Since she has to say someone's name or touch them for her death wail to work, Looking at her RT she doesn't seem to use her death wail a lot or on anyone that isn't fodder.

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I can see SB winning only via spirit possession but it's not something she does much.

I also don't think SB can counter Sue's invisibility?

Are you basing all your knowledge of SB from her RT?

Even if Sue does cover her mouth, she can still use her sonic scream since it doesn't involve talking. She has used the death wail on Superman, who isn't fodder, and it only didn't kill him because she said his superhero name and not his real name. He was still put in a coma from this.

Spirit possession isn't used often because she isn't severely injured or killed.

Invisibility isn't a huge factor considering the massive area that her sonic scream can affect, and it wouldn't help against the death wail.

She definitely needs to open her mouth to scream, unless proven otherwise. So she hasn't killed anyone that's not fodder with her death wail?

If Sue keeps her mouth closed like above she won't be able to scream and based on her RT she only used her death wail by speaking or by touching people which is not going to happen if Sue has basic knowledge on her

Anyone is capable of screaming without their mouth being open. Her powers are magic-based and can affect souls.

She hasn't killed anyone that isn't fodder, but considering what she did to Superman, Sue might as well be fodder. He got put into a coma, so Sue would be killed outright.

She doesn't need to touch people to kill them.

Silver Banshee is also faster than Sue, considering she can keep up with Superman and Supergirl.

I gave Sue the win without basic knowledge, but it would be a tough fight regardless, especially since Silver Banshee can't be killed and could just possess Sue if she gets killed.

I don't think she can scream with her mouth closed or at least release a sonic scream, unless you can provide proof of course

Batman survived her scream with his soul intact... So how consistently does she affect souls with her cry (without it being fodders)

Show me scans of her using her death wail without talking or touching people

Sue has reacted to Silver Surfer, Nova, ect so I don't think BS can blitz

The OP says win by death/KO.

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@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:
@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:
@geekryan said:

Silver Banshee wins with basic knowledge, but Sue definitely wins in a random encounter

Wouldn't Sue just cover her mouth with Basic knowledge? Since she has to say someone's name or touch them for her death wail to work, Looking at her RT she doesn't seem to use her death wail a lot or on anyone that isn't fodder.

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I can see SB winning only via spirit possession but it's not something she does much.

I also don't think SB can counter Sue's invisibility?

Are you basing all your knowledge of SB from her RT?

Even if Sue does cover her mouth, she can still use her sonic scream since it doesn't involve talking. She has used the death wail on Superman, who isn't fodder, and it only didn't kill him because she said his superhero name and not his real name. He was still put in a coma from this.

Spirit possession isn't used often because she isn't severely injured or killed.

Invisibility isn't a huge factor considering the massive area that her sonic scream can affect, and it wouldn't help against the death wail.

She definitely needs to open her mouth to scream, unless proven otherwise. So she hasn't killed anyone that's not fodder with her death wail?

If Sue keeps her mouth closed like above she won't be able to scream and based on her RT she only used her death wail by speaking or by touching people which is not going to happen if Sue has basic knowledge on her

Anyone is capable of screaming without their mouth being open. Her powers are magic-based and can affect souls.

She hasn't killed anyone that isn't fodder, but considering what she did to Superman, Sue might as well be fodder. He got put into a coma, so Sue would be killed outright.

She doesn't need to touch people to kill them.

Silver Banshee is also faster than Sue, considering she can keep up with Superman and Supergirl.

I gave Sue the win without basic knowledge, but it would be a tough fight regardless, especially since Silver Banshee can't be killed and could just possess Sue if she gets killed.

I don't think she can scream with her mouth closed or at least release a sonic scream, unless you can provide proof of course

Batman survived her scream with his soul intact... So how consistently does she affect souls with her cry (without it being fodders)

Show me scans of her using her death wail without talking or touching people

Sue has reacted to Silver Surfer, Nova, ect so I don't think BS can blitz

The OP says win by death/KO.

Sigh....Why do I bother

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R1: Sue her shields should tank everything Banshee has to throw against it

R2: Sue but in a closer fight

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@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:
@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:
@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:
@geekryan said:

Silver Banshee wins with basic knowledge, but Sue definitely wins in a random encounter

Wouldn't Sue just cover her mouth with Basic knowledge? Since she has to say someone's name or touch them for her death wail to work, Looking at her RT she doesn't seem to use her death wail a lot or on anyone that isn't fodder.

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I can see SB winning only via spirit possession but it's not something she does much.

I also don't think SB can counter Sue's invisibility?

Are you basing all your knowledge of SB from her RT?

Even if Sue does cover her mouth, she can still use her sonic scream since it doesn't involve talking. She has used the death wail on Superman, who isn't fodder, and it only didn't kill him because she said his superhero name and not his real name. He was still put in a coma from this.

Spirit possession isn't used often because she isn't severely injured or killed.

Invisibility isn't a huge factor considering the massive area that her sonic scream can affect, and it wouldn't help against the death wail.

She definitely needs to open her mouth to scream, unless proven otherwise. So she hasn't killed anyone that's not fodder with her death wail?

If Sue keeps her mouth closed like above she won't be able to scream and based on her RT she only used her death wail by speaking or by touching people which is not going to happen if Sue has basic knowledge on her

Anyone is capable of screaming without their mouth being open. Her powers are magic-based and can affect souls.

She hasn't killed anyone that isn't fodder, but considering what she did to Superman, Sue might as well be fodder. He got put into a coma, so Sue would be killed outright.

She doesn't need to touch people to kill them.

Silver Banshee is also faster than Sue, considering she can keep up with Superman and Supergirl.

I gave Sue the win without basic knowledge, but it would be a tough fight regardless, especially since Silver Banshee can't be killed and could just possess Sue if she gets killed.

I don't think she can scream with her mouth closed or at least release a sonic scream, unless you can provide proof of course

Batman survived her scream with his soul intact... So how consistently does she affect souls with her cry (without it being fodders)

Show me scans of her using her death wail without talking or touching people

Sue has reacted to Silver Surfer, Nova, ect so I don't think BS can blitz

The OP says win by death/KO.

Sigh....Why do I bother

I'm not too up to date with DC but haven't Silver Banshee lost to Black Canary twice?

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@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:
@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:
@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:
@geekryan said:

Silver Banshee wins with basic knowledge, but Sue definitely wins in a random encounter

Wouldn't Sue just cover her mouth with Basic knowledge? Since she has to say someone's name or touch them for her death wail to work, Looking at her RT she doesn't seem to use her death wail a lot or on anyone that isn't fodder.

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I can see SB winning only via spirit possession but it's not something she does much.

I also don't think SB can counter Sue's invisibility?

Are you basing all your knowledge of SB from her RT?

Even if Sue does cover her mouth, she can still use her sonic scream since it doesn't involve talking. She has used the death wail on Superman, who isn't fodder, and it only didn't kill him because she said his superhero name and not his real name. He was still put in a coma from this.

Spirit possession isn't used often because she isn't severely injured or killed.

Invisibility isn't a huge factor considering the massive area that her sonic scream can affect, and it wouldn't help against the death wail.

She definitely needs to open her mouth to scream, unless proven otherwise. So she hasn't killed anyone that's not fodder with her death wail?

If Sue keeps her mouth closed like above she won't be able to scream and based on her RT she only used her death wail by speaking or by touching people which is not going to happen if Sue has basic knowledge on her

Anyone is capable of screaming without their mouth being open. Her powers are magic-based and can affect souls.

She hasn't killed anyone that isn't fodder, but considering what she did to Superman, Sue might as well be fodder. He got put into a coma, so Sue would be killed outright.

She doesn't need to touch people to kill them.

Silver Banshee is also faster than Sue, considering she can keep up with Superman and Supergirl.

I gave Sue the win without basic knowledge, but it would be a tough fight regardless, especially since Silver Banshee can't be killed and could just possess Sue if she gets killed.

I don't think she can scream with her mouth closed or at least release a sonic scream, unless you can provide proof of course

Batman survived her scream with his soul intact... So how consistently does she affect souls with her cry (without it being fodders)

Show me scans of her using her death wail without talking or touching people

Sue has reacted to Silver Surfer, Nova, ect so I don't think BS can blitz

The OP says win by death/KO.

Sigh....Why do I bother

I'm not too up to date with DC but haven't Silver Banshee lost to Black Canary twice?

No lol. But I'm not going to bother with continuing this discussion with you, it's pointless.

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@scarlet_wiccan: She lost to Canary in Wonder Woman Vol. 2 175

She lost to Canary in Wonder Woman Vol. 2 175

Thanks, I'll check it out

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@gmorto: If so, that’s a massive outlier considering Black Canary is pretty street level.

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@geekryan: I agree Silver Banshee should have won against Black Canary. But apparantly, Dinah beat her twice, once in post-crisis and the other in the New 52.

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@gmorto: Yeah, that's complete PIS lol.

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This is from the other time but I don't know the issue.

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@geekryan: I kinda agree, also that same issue had Lady Shiva beating Supergirl