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Poll: Sif (MCU) vs Iron Man (MCU) (67 votes)

Sif 24%
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@algorhythm511 said:

Tony got hit with a missile, fell out of the sky and was fine. He also took a direct hit from Thor's hammer. I am going to give the majority to IM.

Asgardian elite warriors are depicted as Loki level and above. So if Iron man can tank a missile, or a hit from Thor's hammer, Sif likely can to.

Sif was never depicted as Loki level, or even close imo.

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@hulkbusterx9 said:
@algorhythm511 said:

Tony got hit with a missile, fell out of the sky and was fine. He also took a direct hit from Thor's hammer. I am going to give the majority to IM.

Asgardian elite warriors are depicted as Loki level and above. So if Iron man can tank a missile, or a hit from Thor's hammer, Sif likely can to.

Sif was never depicted as Loki level, or even close imo.

She was slaughtering more frost giants than Loki was, so to say she isn't even close is unreasonable.

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Sif is more on Cap's level, not Stark's

She's on Loki's level.

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@supremegeneration said:
@hulkbusterx9 said:

Tony got hit with a missile, fell out of the sky and was fine. He also took a direct hit from Thor's hammer. I am going to give the majority to IM.

Asgardian elite warriors are depicted as Loki level and above. So if Iron man can tank a missile, or a hit from Thor's hammer, Sif likely can to.

Sif was never depicted as Loki level, or even close imo.

She was slaughtering more frost giants than Loki was, so to say she isn't even close is unreasonable.

Sure, skillwise she was going at them, but Loki's fight against Valkyrie, for example, is something I don't see Sif replicating. He also has feats against the Dark Elves. Physically, I think she'd be freaking brutalized by the Hulk slam in Avengers.

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@hulkbusterx9 said:
@supremegeneration said:
@hulkbusterx9 said:

Tony got hit with a missile, fell out of the sky and was fine. He also took a direct hit from Thor's hammer. I am going to give the majority to IM.

Asgardian elite warriors are depicted as Loki level and above. So if Iron man can tank a missile, or a hit from Thor's hammer, Sif likely can to.

Sif was never depicted as Loki level, or even close imo.

She was slaughtering more frost giants than Loki was, so to say she isn't even close is unreasonable.

Sure, skillwise she was going at them, but Loki's fight against Valkyrie, for example, is something I don't see Sif replicating. He also has feats against the Dark Elves. Physically, I think she'd be freaking brutalized by the Hulk slam in Avenprobablgers.

She was implied as one of the finest warriors of Asgard, below the likes of Thor and Valkyrie. Her swordsmanship is probably close to Valkyrie. I could see her taking out more Elves and Hel warriors than Loki. She likely has the strength advantage.

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H2H combat??? Sif damn near stomps

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Really depends on the armour.

Sif could stomp Civil War Armour but gets stomped by Infinity War Armour, for example.

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Stalemate.

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This is a mismatch now

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@hulkbusterx9: Shes done absolutely nothing to put her on loki's level.

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Sif stomps h2h.

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@hulkbusterx9: Shes done absolutely nothing to put her on loki's level.

Fodderizing more frost giants than Loki was. Kicking a large RV a good distance away by an extension of 1 leg. Heavily implied as one of Asgards finest warriors. Loki even banished just her when he was impersonating Odin in fear of her.

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@hulkbusterx9:

I just looked at the scene, they beat around the same amount. Loki actually beat more I think.

The RV feat is a good showing for strength, Loki parrying and staggering Thor is much better. Being Asgards finest female warrior of which they are none of was that statement Thor made.

Loki never banished her...her presence in Ragnarock was never ackowledged

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@asphaltairborne: Kevin Feige himself literally said Loki banished her in fear of Sif revealing his identity.

Parrying and staggering Thor isn't something someone on Sif's strength level can't replicate. Are you implying Thor can no sell hits from someone who can send a huge arse RV several yards away with a leg push?

We have a direct statement placing Sif above any warrior in Asgard besides Thor, Hela and the Valkyries.

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@asphaltairborne: Kevin Feige himself literally said Loki banished her in fear of Sif revealing his identity.

Parrying and staggering Thor isn't something someone on Sif's strength level can't replicate. Are you implying Thor can no sell hits from someone who can send a huge arse RV several yards away with a leg push?

We have a direct statement placing Sif above any warrior in Asgard besides Thor, Hela and the Valkyries.

The person who sent a large RV away a large distance by extending her leg can't even stagger Thor? Ok. I like your logic. I already acknowledged how Thor and Valkyrie are above the other Asgardians.

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@anthp2000:

Kevin Feige himself literally said Loki banished her in fear of Sif revealing his identity.

Jeez Lewis, I knew she was a warrior but a detective too?

Parrying and staggering Thor isn't something someone on Sif's strength level can't replicate.

Yea let's pretend Sif has shown the ability to block hits from someone who can create shockwaves that can level tanks and forests...

Are you implying Thor can no sell hits from someone who can send a huge arse RV several yards away with a leg push?

Absolutely

We have a direct statement placing Sif above any warrior in Asgard besides Thor, Hela and the Valkyries.

Asgardian warriors. Not Asgard, more specifically Odin's Asgardian army. Depending on how you interpret it. Loki's not Asgardian nor a warrior, he doesn't fit the description

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Sif loses because she's a woman.

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#73  Edited By Greysentinel365

Iron Man oneshots. How has this gone on for two pages?

Also Sifs statement only refers to reputation.

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@anthp2000:

Kevin Feige himself literally said Loki banished her in fear of Sif revealing his identity.

Jeez Lewis, I knew she was a warrior but a detective too?

Parrying and staggering Thor isn't something someone on Sif's strength level can't replicate.

Yea let's pretend Sif has shown the ability to block hits from someone who can create shockwaves that can level tanks and forests...

Are you implying Thor can no sell hits from someone who can send a huge arse RV several yards away with a leg push?

Absolutely

We have a direct statement placing Sif above any warrior in Asgard besides Thor, Hela and the Valkyries.

Asgardian warriors. Not Asgard, more specifically Odin's Asgardian army. Depending on how you interpret it. Loki's not Asgardian nor a warrior, he doesn't fit the description

No one said she can block a punch from Hulk. Sif is seen standing next to the likes of Frigga and Loki, implying she is above everyone else. The warriors 3 were just a suspicious as Sif was, but he only banished her, why do you think that is?

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@hulkbusterx9:

Frigga's only feat is beating Malekith-making her decently skilled and she knows how to do illusions. How is she on Loki's level? He could've banished her for any number of reasons. Her close relation to Odin, her knowing Loki better than anyone outside his adopted family

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#77  Edited By Alavanka

Iron Man takes it, regardless if Sif is a match for Loki or not. Bleeding edge is on a different level altogether.

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@anthp2000:

Kevin Feige himself literally said Loki banished her in fear of Sif revealing his identity.

Jeez Lewis, I knew she was a warrior but a detective too?

Parrying and staggering Thor isn't something someone on Sif's strength level can't replicate.

Yea let's pretend Sif has shown the ability to block hits from someone who can create shockwaves that can level tanks and forests...

Are you implying Thor can no sell hits from someone who can send a huge arse RV several yards away with a leg push?

Absolutely

We have a direct statement placing Sif above any warrior in Asgard besides Thor, Hela and the Valkyries.

Asgardian warriors. Not Asgard, more specifically Odin's Asgardian army. Depending on how you interpret it. Loki's not Asgardian nor a warrior, he doesn't fit the description

Idfk, go question the frickin head of all of Marvel cause he said so himself.

So now you're arguing Thor has been going all out against Loki. Sif has ragdolled Vin Tak with her hits, and the dude remained conscious after tanking a direct blast from the Destroyer just as well if not better than Loki. If she can ragdoll someone like him, sure as heck she can "stagger" Loki.

Show me Thor doing that pls.

No it doesn't say anything about Asgardian warriors, it directly said she's considered second in battle only to Thor after climbing through Odin's ranks with her martial prowess. If she's considered second in battle only to Thor, she's above Loki.

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@hulkbusterx9:

Frigga's only feat is beating Malekith-making her decently skilled and she knows how to do illusions. How is she on Loki's level? He could've banished her for any number of reasons. Her close relation to Odin, her knowing Loki better than anyone outside his adopted family

Why are you talking about Frigga's feats? She was rag dolling Vin Tak, who took a direct hit from the destroyer gun, which hurt even Loki, but somehow she's not on his level? Ok.

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@anthp2000:

So now you're arguing Thor has been going all out against Loki.

the attacks I mentioned were his low end striking feats...hits he put like barely any effort into.

Sif has ragdolled Vin Tak with her hits, and the dude remained conscious after tanking a direct blast from the Destroyer just as well if not better than Loki.

Vin Tak was also staggered by a whack from Bobbi's batons and a punch from Mack...meanwhile you have Loki who's no selling attacks from Captain America, tanking huge arse explosions that displaced thousands of tons of water, survived an entire onslaught of getting ragdolled by the Hulk and remaining conscious and being bullrushed 100's of feet though an Asgardian metal device. His feats are much more consistent.

One showing from from the Destroyer Gun doesn't just change the fact that he was staggered by much less prior to that and being staggered by peak humans is consistent with Daisy staggering the Kree Reapers (implied more powerful) and May pushing back Sinara. Not to mention, the Destroyer Gun on AOS couldn't even kill Centipede Soldiers

Show me Thor doing that pls.

tanking being sent 100's of feet backward while braced and through a concrete structure and flying back immediately is much more impressive. Sif's RV feat was more strength than striking anyways

No it doesn't say anything about Asgardian warriors, it directly said she's considered second in battle only to Thor after climbing through Odin's ranks with her martial prowess. If she's considered second in battle only to Thor, she's above Loki.

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Here's the quote Rogue posted on that thread

""In time, her prowess rises above the ranks of Odin's own Einherjar warriors and she is considered second in battle only to Thor.""

that's clearly implication in regards to the Asgardian army...not to mention that quote is stating her reputation, its not a cold heart fact

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