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#1 Edited by Red_Ruby_Petal (8239 posts) - - Show Bio

Todoroki

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Sub Zero

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Battle takes place in U.A sports festival

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Todoroki can use both his left and right

No morals.

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#2 Edited by ValorKnight (12412 posts) - - Show Bio

I think they are similar in speed, but SZ outclasses him everywhere else. Also considering SZ is no stranger to fighting against fire, he should eventually be able to get in close, ragdoll Todoroki, and then flash freeze him. Also bump, this is a nice battle

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#3 Posted by Apocofist (3028 posts) - - Show Bio

Dunno bout the other guy but Sub Zero can control his own body's molecules to completely turn himself into ice, teleport, rip out spines and limbs, has mastery over multiple martial arts and has fought just about every single type of fighter there is.

This is all lore btw.

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#4 Posted by Sy8000 (35455 posts) - - Show Bio

Mismatch

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#5 Posted by sladerulez (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

sub-zero murders him and pulls out his spine

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#6 Edited by deactivated-59b71d5620272 (3438 posts) - - Show Bio

sub-zero murders him and pulls out his spine

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#7 Edited by DeathWingTerminatorT1000 (417 posts) - - Show Bio

Sub Zero is way more proficient in fighting and he is incredibly brutal. I think Shoto's ice is a bit more powerful and his flames will help out, but ultimately SZs superior control of his ice coupled with his fighting skill should give him a fairly easy win. Also his teleport will let him get in close and basically ruin any ranged advantage from Shoto.

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#8 Posted by Sy8000 (35455 posts) - - Show Bio

Todoroki is vastly more powerful and Sub-Zero has no feats to blitz.

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#9 Posted by Djoss (577 posts) - - Show Bio

Todoroki wins, i think both are similar in speed but todoroki reaction are better.

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#10 Posted by Jman88933 (1185 posts) - - Show Bio

Sub Zero pulls out Todoroki's spine

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#11 Edited by MyLittleFascist (31717 posts) - - Show Bio

Subzero is vastly more skilled, capable of teleporting, turning his body into ice, creating clones, casually tearing off limbs with one arm, and is significantly faster.

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#12 Posted by DeathHero61 (18826 posts) - - Show Bio

Subzero is vastly more skilled, capable of teleporting, turning his body into ice, creating clones, casually tearing off limbs with one arm, and is significantly faster.

He can teleport and is faster? Scans?

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#13 Edited by Chronicplane (9182 posts) - - Show Bio

Todoroki stomps, his elemental powers far trump Zero's and he doesn't have the speed to Blitz him.

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#14 Edited by MyLittleFascist (31717 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathhero61:

Teleportation ambush, Naruto Substitution Jutsu style.

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Shatters bomb proof steel door, dodges a rocket, blitzes an android, and rips it in half with his bare hands:

If you look at the rocket, it didn't move at all, in the time it took for Sub Zero to cross that same distance the rocket was shot from.
If you look at the rocket, it didn't move at all, in the time it took for Sub Zero to cross that same distance the rocket was shot from.

We have also seen a couple characters bullet time:

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Sub Zero is supposed to be one of the faster characters around... I consider MK ninjas to be about Stain level at minimum in regards to speed.

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#15 Edited by MyLittleFascist (31717 posts) - - Show Bio

@chronicplane said:

Todoroki stomps, his elemental powers far trump Zero's and he doesn't have the speed to Blitz him.

Based on? Sub Zero can shatter blast proof doors with his ice, counter hellfire, and has withstood 3000 degree flames (which, depending on Fahrenheit or Celsius ranges from decently above melting point of steel to outright doubling it).

If Sub Zero gets his possession feats, then it gets REALLY lopsided.

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#16 Posted by deactivated-5b5405244e89c (8376 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow, MK could actually win something.That's neat.

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#17 Posted by Chronicplane (9182 posts) - - Show Bio

@chronicplane said:

Todoroki stomps, his elemental powers far trump Zero's and he doesn't have the speed to Blitz him.

Based on? Sub Zero can shatter blast proof doors with his ice, counter hellfire, and has withstood 3000 degree flames (which, depending on Fahrenheit or Celsius ranges from decently above melting point of steel to outright doubling it).

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Shoto can unleash Stadium sized ice ridges with just a step of his foot and with no morals there is no reason for him not to use it against his enemy.

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Even his normal Ice attacks can be scaled to small buildings based of this one alone which is one of his lower end moves.

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City Block level attacks in mere moments his Ice is more powerful than Zero until you show me that he can do this. How would he be able to close the gap If all of that is heading his way.

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He can also surround himself in ferocious flames and Ice in an near instant, What's Zero's heat resistance for him to withstand shoto's fire?

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#18 Edited by MyLittleFascist (31717 posts) - - Show Bio

@chronicplane: Radius =/= Potency...

Show me Todoroki shattering something comparable to explosion proof doors by freezing them.

Shoto can unleash Stadium sized ice ridges with just a step of his foot and with no morals there is no reason for him not to use it against his enemy.

And that's going to do what to someone who can teleport or literally become ice and travel through it?

He can also surround himself in ferocious flames and Ice in an near instant, What's Zero's heat resistance for him to withstand shoto's fire?

I just said, he can withstand 3000 degree flames. Depending on whether you interpret that as Fahrenheit or Celsius, it's decently above the melting point of steel or double it entirely.

His ice-shield can tank bunker-busting explosions:

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And if we throw in feats from his demonic possession, he can freeze over an entire city.

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#19 Posted by DeathHero61 (18826 posts) - - Show Bio

@chronicplane said:

Todoroki stomps, his elemental powers far trump Zero's and he doesn't have the speed to Blitz him.

Based on? Sub Zero can shatter blast proof doors with his ice, counter hellfire, and has withstood 3000 degree flames (which, depending on Fahrenheit or Celsius ranges from decently above melting point of steel to outright doubling it).

If Sub Zero gets his possession feats, then it gets REALLY lopsided.

Eh.... his ice manipulation isn't on the same scale however. The amount of raw power Shouto has in comparison makes it harder for Sub-Zero.

You mean in the comics where he was freezing cities or something like that?

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#20 Posted by DeathHero61 (18826 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow, MK could actually win something.That's neat.

Of course, people just choose the wrong opponents tbh.

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#21 Edited by MyLittleFascist (31717 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathhero61:

The amount of raw power Shouto has in comparison makes it harder for Sub-Zero.

Shouto has better crowed control with his ice, I haven't seen anything to suggest the raw power behind the ice is actually superior to Sub Zero's... Certainly not enough to suggest it would be effective against a guy who can outright become the ice....

You mean in the comics where he was freezing cities or something like that?

Yes

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#25 Posted by TheWatcherKing (18451 posts) - - Show Bio

Breaking Noumu into pieces(who was eating hits from All Might) >>>breaking explosion resistant doors.

Just saying.

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#26 Posted by Lan_Fan (14723 posts) - - Show Bio

Todoroki's ice is useless (as SZ can destroy ice with just a touch) and Sub-Zero is vastly superior in H2H. His fire side could become a problem but Scorpion's fire is arguably hotter by feats although Todoroki holds advantage in pure raw power, his attacks could easily be aim dodged or blocked with ice.

Liang could just make ice clones as decoys and teleport behind him and then proceed to rip his spine off.

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#27 Posted by Otsdarva999 (380 posts) - - Show Bio

I’m surprised. MK usually loses every match they’re put in, but it looks like SZ can win.

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#28 Posted by TheVivas (19484 posts) - - Show Bio

Sub beats him. Too fast, too experienced, and too willing to go for the kill.

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#29 Edited by DanielDaRipper (5523 posts) - - Show Bio

Todoroki, his ice manipulation is much more powerful than SZ and has AoE to counter SZ's speed not to mention he has his fire side as well which adds more versatility.

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#30 Posted by Jueix (2464 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

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#31 Posted by Kredory (65 posts) - - Show Bio

Sub-Zero actually resists freezing and he demonstrated this in the MKX comics, so Shouto should rely on his fire manip. Which Sub-Zero still counters.