Shinra vs Flash and Jessie Quick

Shinra vs Barry Allen and Jessie chambers.

All going all out but in character

How does the devil's footprint stand against 2 DC speedsters

either solos with low diff.

Don't know about Jesse but a nonjobbing Barry should win this

EOS Shinra solos both. Pre Banshou Man Shinra wins or gets beaten depending on how much flash feels like jobbing.

@areneacaulem: @lordtwigo: @matthew342:

How do either solo someone who rewrote the rules of creation?

^ this

You should probably specifiy which version of Shinra Your referring to. You should have Wrote ShinraBanshoman instead of just Shinra.

by blitzing them lol

That won't work against EOS Shinra. As he can rewind time infinitely. You clearly know nothing about Fire Force , best not to comment on things You know nothing about.

This Shinra is waaay above Planetary in potency though. As far weaker versions of him are already around that range. There's not much if anything Barry could do to this version of Shinra. Shinra has higher AP , Better Hax etc... Only thing Barry's got is Speed (That seems to change from time to time depending on how much he wants to job) This version of Shinra is more of a high tier Teambuster.

1. You mean travel back in time?

2. You can`t do that infinitely against a speedster. not only can they push time forward, they can go faster than infinite speed. i have the scans. infact, walter west went so fast he came to the real world. also, are you following me?

Travel and reverse time

2) These would be effective against Most combatants , but since Shinra can warp reality it isn't much of a problem for him to deal with

@areneacaulem: @areneacaulem:

Shinra had no feats that put him anywhere higher than planetary. Highest AP feat shown was moon kick.

This feat being performed by a Far Weaker Shinra , compared to the one that's being used in this fight.

The rest were hacks that has nothing to do with AP.

Adolla/Evangelist AMPS do increase all your physical stats we see this:

Prior to his Evangelist AMP Sho is able to effortlesely one-shot both Shinra and Arthur (Shibra's equal/rival). Shinra

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Then Shinra gets his Evangelist AMP and he's able to tank several attaks from Sho and blatantly match him in physicals:

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So all his stats are amped. This is consistent throughout the entire Manga that Adoola/Evangelist AMPS Increase all stats. Shinra was already on Planetary levels of power prior to his Bansho Man transformation , he then gets a substantiall amp (which we already know increases stats) and gains new hax abilities.

Bansho Man Shinra is already easily around dwarf star levels of power.

Want me to change my mind? Tell me an attack that could destroy the universe, Galaxy, hell even an attack that could destroy the solar system.

I don't need to do that , as none here is on that level of power. All I need to do is show that Shinra's Stats Increase when Amped by Adolla/Evangelist.

1. same thing

2. he needs to think to do that and the flashes are faster than thought

@firelordmagnus: I don't know versions to specify. My son has been watching the anime. He tells me Shinra could take most of the big 7 JLA except maybe Superman (some with high diff). He has seen a tic toc that said hes even more powerful in the manga and now wants to get that.

On another forum someone answered the exact same post saying shinra rewrote the rules of reality to take away the power of death, and was too powerful for any speedsters. I'm only asking the question because I want to get a gauge of how powerful this character is/can get to.

The threads purpose is for me to learn about Shinra and a non discript post (like those I've questioned) doesn't answer anything.

The discussion that has happened since then is MUCH more enlightening

He really Just said you could go from planetary to dwarf star. as if you couldn`t fit one million earth size planets in a dwarf star

I'm not talking about DC I'm talking about AP. I'm talking about the amount of power Behind your attacks , not what You can physically destroy.

@matthew342 said:

Sigh... Again Not referring to DC I'm referring to AP , The amount of "planets" You can fit in a Dwarf star don't mattter as I'm talking about the amount of power Behind your attacks , not what You can physically destroy.

Again. A Weaker Shinra already has planetary - Large Planetary levels of AP. Banshoman Shinra scales significantly above that as his stats have been increased. This at bare minimum puts his AP around Large Planetary - Dwarf Star levels of Power.

2) Don't know why your asking about DP as it isn't relevant. Durability scales to AP and I've already scaled that for you

3) Don't know why on earth your mentioning Universal AP.

Seems like a weeby exaggeration but a morals on Flash and co aren't going to have the tools to handle them.

I wasnt talking about dc

and... mass is kind of a major factor in destructive capability

@matthew342: Shinra is literally above the concept of time… there is no blitzing going on here

scan? the most he could do is reverse time. and he has no good durability feats

@matthew342: bruh he could stop time reverse it and then bring it back to the current time.

He’s above adolla which is all the concept, thoughts and ideas of man.

Lol at Shinra having no good durability feats when he scales above the likes of benimaru that consider planet level fodder

Yep. He was never over time. He could just reverse it and he technically doesnt even stop it

And lol at being above the concepts of man. time is way beyond that.

And Planet level ain`t a good durability feat, at least not for this battle. and benimaru has not directly by himself planetary feats

What is the adolla downplay here? Adolla houses all ideation of man and conceptualzations. Time is just one of the many things it houses with other shit that also falls under space time.

Even the art style slightly changed to fit what geovani said about adolla changing the world and story of it.

And not only can adolla change the physics of the world shinra is above haumea who had absorbed ALL of mankind’s gods from even before the first catalyst.

And shinra easily beats on her and rewrites death to be something more friendly and more importantly a being who can take abilities away from people that don’t fit shinras bill for a new world.

If you don’t believe shinra is universal in range or DC/AP (kinda hard to believe with no feats) the scaling and literal lore point to adolla being in that range and even covering dimensions.

Shinra

Shinra neg diffs even morals off flash