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#1  Edited By jc9865
Tomura Shigaraki/AFO
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To Death or KO

Location: Konoha

R1: Random Encounter

R2: both have knowledge on the other

Now I know everyone's knee jerk reaction is to say Doffy Blitz gg. But after the last few chapters I'm interested to see where ppl place Shigaraki now. His main asset these days seems to be his damage soak and Regen. Does Doffy have the AP to kill him before being touched etc.

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Doflamingo is in that large island-small country range

Where does Shigaraki lie?

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Mismatch doffy blinks.

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Doffy one-shots

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@wushu59: Well Spoilers ahead. He's recently survived a nuke basically. Like not head on but in the vicinity. He dodged it by digging essentially. Don't know how well that actually works but it's what he did. As well as high power laser directly on him. It's getting kinda absurd tbh.

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#6  Edited By GangOrca  Online
@jc9865 said:

@wushu59: Well Spoilers ahead. He's recently survived a nuke basically. Like not head on but in the vicinity. He dodged it by digging essentially. Don't know how well that actually works but it's what he did. As well as high power laser directly on him. It's getting kinda absurd tbh.

Doffy not only hits harder than that explosion, but Shigaraki admitted it would've killed him if he had been in the epicenter of the blast. Also, the laser is mostly unquantifiable.

Doffy still one-shots.

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Doffy one-shots

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Based on what I’ve seen from the explosion calcs from the recent chapter Shigaraki is like Large Mountain level but Doffy still should take this. Shigaraki isn’t ready for characters on Doffy’s level honestly.

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Doffy just can't let Shiggy touch him, which wouldn't be hard for him to do at all. Doffy could still floor Shiggy with one blow. Doffy takes this.

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Shiggy solos OP.

Then he wakes up after he realizes he was dreaming.

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@joker5000: The intercontinental missiles explosion could be large mountain level but Shiggy dug down to avoid most of the damage.

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OT: Doffy one shots.

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@hydratedfubuki6: Yeah but he scales to the Nomu who survived them.

Not if he straight up says he couldn't survive the explosion.

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#15  Edited By HydratedFubuki6

@joker5000: The Nomu didn't survive. The Nomu tried to jump on the missiles but failed, then the jets fires at the Nomu and kills it.

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@hydratedfubuki6: Re read it. Tomura sent it out as a decoy and it got shot by the jets then got hit by Star’s missile punch. It survives then Tomura commands it to self destruct.

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#17  Edited By Antebellum  Online

Doffy without much effort.

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#18  Edited By HydratedFubuki6

@joker5000: There's not enough context about that Nomu if it's still alive and what abilities does it have, but it's completely inanimate after the explosion, could be dead but Shiggy can still make it self destruct.

But one this is certain that Shiggy got nearly turned into naked skeleton even he burrowed himself down deep.

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#19  Edited By GangOrca  Online

@hydratedfubuki6: I think you shouldn't overlook one thing though, AFO at some point had the quirks needed for that Nomu to survive the explosion (or maybe it's bad writing that it survived since other Nomu of it's tier aren't nearly that strong, but I'm not going to go with that for now). That could mean Prime AFO could possibly survive the blast.

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@hydratedfubuki6: Shigaraki’s skin was already peeling off from Star’s Keraunos so he was weakened however you’re right he doesn’t scale fully to the explosion. The full thing is calced at Island level so Shigaraki and the Nomu downscale to large mountain level since that’s how strong one of the missiles should be.

Also yeah you’re right the Nomu migtt he be been dead and Shigaraki forced a self destruction.

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@joker5000: May I ask where you found the island level calc?

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#23  Edited By Joker5000

@gangorca: Here https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Therefir/My_Hero_Academia:_Intercontinental_Smash

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Shiggy solos OP.

Then he wakes up after he realizes he was dreaming.

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Doffy slices his head off or puts him in a birdcage coated with Haki

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can shigaraki win if he gets new order?

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@vex_haid said:

can shigaraki win if he gets new order?

Nope, way too slow.

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@deyyy said:
@areneacaulem said:

Shiggy solos OP.

Then he wakes up after he realizes he was dreaming.

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#29  Edited By HydratedFubuki6
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@gangorca: Here https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Therefir/My_Hero_Academia:_Intercontinental_Smash

tbh the way it was pixel scaled is dubious, you could also use Shiggy's hole that's around 1 meter in diameter to measure the crater and water height

it's more valid to use the visual input in the panel rather than assuming the water height especially without strong evidence

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Doffy stomps with relative ease, his normal strings alone could solo MHA.

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#31  Edited By GangOrca  Online
@hydratedfubuki6 said:
@joker5000 said:

@gangorca: Here https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Therefir/My_Hero_Academia:_Intercontinental_Smash

tbh the way it was pixel scaled is dubious, you could also use Shiggy's hole that's around 1 meter in diameter to measure the crater and water height

it's more valid to use the visual input in the panel rather than assuming the water height especially without strong evidence

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Yeah, the blast shouldn't have a diameter of 10 kilometers. The cloud disperse that was like 7 times wider wasn't even close to reaching Japan, which was 50 kilometers away. Still, it's at least a few kilometers wide.

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@gangorca said:
@vex_haid said:

can shigaraki win if he gets new order?

Nope, way too slow.

cant he just use new order to make himself FTL?

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#33  Edited By LameLiarLeo

Shiggy keeps regenerating and eventually tags with decay once Doffy gets tired

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@vex_haid said:
@gangorca said:
@vex_haid said:

can shigaraki win if he gets new order?

Nope, way too slow.

cant he just use new order to make himself FTL?

No, SnS couldn't make herself AM level with it. Though it's possible he can increase his speed.

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Shiggy keeps regenerating and eventually tags with decay once Doffy gets tired

Parasite string gg.

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Doffy accidently oneshots

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One of doffys clone solos the verse still

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Shiggy keeps regenerating and eventually tags with decay once Doffy gets tired

lol @ Doffy getting tired.

The man survived getting his guts ruined and he just stitched them back up and kept on fighting.

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Doffy of all people getting tired is funny as hell.

He has one of the best stamina in all of One Piece.

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Shiggy keeps regenerating and eventually tags with decay once Doffy gets tired

He's not regenerating from decapitation. Doffy's clone one shots.

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@hydratedfubuki6: Not saying Shigaraki wins but it was explicitly stated that you would have to vaporize Shigaraki in one attack to stop him from regenerating.

Either way, Doffy can tax his regen until he runs out of power.

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#42  Edited By Phobiaxl

@hydratedfubuki6: He has the same regen quirk as the high end Nomu. So he should be easily capable of surviving decapitation just like them. Destroying his head entirely would kill him though.

OT: Shigaraki has one shot potential but if what I remember about Doflamingo is correct he, especially with knowledge, has the means to keep his distance and destroy Shigaraki's head to win.

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Doffy is in a different league, he stomps

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Doflamingo solos the verse, weaker characters would do the same. Tf are you all arguing about here?

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@delein said:

Doflamingo solos the verse, weaker characters would do the same. Tf are you all arguing about here?

A birdcage is enough tbh

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Honestly it should large mountain level but seeing as shigaraki stated that he would be killed by thw attack if he took head on i think shigaraki should still be mountain level at best at the moment but anyways doffy one shots and solos the verse

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Doffy sends one of his clones to handle the fodder, cuz he's just to weak

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@hydratedfubuki6: Yeah but he scales to the Nomu who survived them.

Only because of his regen and he literally might be even dead and we were just seeing his corpse which is why Shigaraki took the wing quirk from it and bursted it. The Nomu surviving an attack thanks to regen does not mean he is on that tier since the regen can happen mid attack.

Just like this:

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So the Nomu is not mountain level and his durability is unquantifiable since he did it with regen at best.

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Doffy just let his clone do the work.

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#50  Edited By SimpleRandom

Doflamingo solos the verse