Shazam vs Martian Manhunter

actually, by feats, mmh is faster, stronger, smarter, AND more durable.

as for fire...MMH has been at the sun...soooo

MMH wins

@comic_bruh777: MM's weakness is not temperature related exactly; actually blazing fires are his psychological weakness. MM could overcome it easily when he wants, and the lord marvel got fucked by a regular black Adam (though it was bad writing, + there are many stupid op writings for black Adam I'll talk about it in a different thread) theoretically black Adam and Shazam have the same power (only a few know they can perform magic) and so CM should give a tough fight if not win, but none of his feats are competent enough for MM. MM Ftw

J'onn has too many ways to win from TP to phasing.

MMH

MMH wins

@varun_metamorpho: while I think this can go either way, MM cannot overcome fire easily when he wants, there have been certain times over the history of the character where he eventually learned to overcome it, but generally it is his weakness and he can not simply overcome it because he wants to. If that were the case he would always do this, I mean who would want to be set on fire alive or feel the worst pain they have ever felt? It would be a non factor if he could just choose to not let it harm him as you insinuated

Martian Manhunter.

Still MMH

Jon

Martian Manhunter, too many advantages over Billy not to win this.

There both equally smart because shazam has the wisdom of solomon(which he doesnt use) when comes to strenght there pretty even sense both of them rival supes speed i would give that to marvel powers and abilities that goes to mm he has a wider range of powers but shazam attacks would do more damgae and plus his lightning would actually do the most damage. and y do yall keep saying shazam cant damage him he has no fire dude martian manhunter can get hurt by physical damage

J'onn every day and twice on Sundays.

MMH stomps.

Thats the funny part about mm somebody can get some hair spray and lighter and make mm beg for mercy

In actual, martian manhunter is way powerful but still he cannot beat Shazam Aka Captain Marvel.Firstly he was beaten down by Black Adam and Adam was defeated by Captain Marvel on several occasions.Secondly if you think that shapeshifting or telepathy would affect Captain... Forget it because captain marvel is having the courage of Achilles+ other powers of other 5 Gods and because of that he can't be mind controlled.

Plus Martian manhunter is having weakness against fire and magic , thus wisdom of solomon gives him 5000 years of experience + Skills and knowledge, he might be able to Find martian manhunter's weakness and kick his ass anytime.and you guys really thing that an Alien creature really Able to Man handle or defeat 6 Gods? I don't think so.

MMH.

J'onn.

J'onn.

Billy is severely underrated

@penguinofsteel: yeah

A Nigh Featless MMH vs A highly unimpressive Captain Marvel

Dunno

Underrated he may be, but he still loses this.

@wollfmyth209: Why?Billy is way Faster than him, he could just blitz him.

Hmm interesting fight.

Here to learn.

@lord-omega-616: Even assuming he's faster(he isn't), Billy certainly isn't fast enough to blitz J'onn.

@wollfmyth209: Why not?Post crisis Billy have the Speed of Mercury which is equal or higher than the Speed of Wally.(I have the scan but i'm from smartphone)

In addition, Billy have the strenght of Hercules(Hercules strenght is equal of superman's) and the Power of Zeus.

Martian Manhunter.

@lord-omega-616: Why not?Post crisis Billy have the Speed of Mercury which is equal or higher than the Speed of Wally.(I have the scan but i'm from smartphone)

I doubt having "the speed of Mercury" is enough to suggest he's as fast as Wally. A statement doesn't always equal truth, and all of Cap'n Marvel's feats in the speed department are severely below Flash. And even being generous and assuming Shazam is comparable to Flash, J'onn has kept up with a bloodlusted Flash in the past without too much trouble so I don't think it'd be a problem.

In addition, Billy have the strenght of Hercules(Hercules strenght is equal of superman's) and the Power of Zeus.

Billy himself has only ever been, at best, on par with Superman in strength, and is generally Clark's inferior. But the Martian is stronger than Superman, on a consistent basis, anyways, so it won't matter. The power of Zeus just means he has the use of lightning, which again doesn't worry me given how easily MMH can deal with that. On top of that, J'onn has phasing and telepathy to take Billy out.

@lord-omega-616:

Why not?Post crisis Billy have the Speed of Mercury which is equal or higher than the Speed of Wally.(I have the scan but i'm from smartphone)

Can you prove it? And please, no baseless statements. Eobard stated that Superman's speed rivals his own, yet in the next issue he humiliated Superman, Hal Jordan, Rip Hunter and Booster Gold. Flash also stated multiple times that Superman is comparable to him speed wise yet there are multiple instances when extremely weakened Flash left Superman in the dust.

MMH handily

MMH should win

J'onn

Captain Marvel Fought the Spectre at Day of Vengeance.and spectre i think is way above from telepaths like despero, martian man Hunter etc.

Martian manhunter wasn't able to telepath and mind control Black Adam then How can he able to mind Control Shazam?.

The courage of Achillies give him edge over telepathic attacks.

And through lighting he can hurt Martian manhunter because the temperature of lighting is more than that of heat and he cannot dodge it by going intangible. So i think Shazam aka captain marvel can take this.

Jon jonz

Mmh

Shazam has the power, but his personality is too childish.

is this for serious? MMH stomps

Shazam = Superman > Martian

Martain Manhunter wins

captain marvel don't equal superman and martian manhunter wins

his intangibility saves him from lightning and he could telepathically make billy forget the magic words

Captain Marvel Billy stomps