Shan-Yu vs Beast (Disney Battle)

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Shan-Yu from Mulan faces the Beast from Beauty and the Beast.

No prep. Morals on.

The Beast has the same level of anger that he had at the beginning of the movie.

Round 1: Brawling/wrestling; fight until KO.

Round 2: Shan-Yu has his sword; fight until death.

Who wins?

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#2  Edited By Captain13

Round 1 & 2: Shan Yu

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I just don't think I've seen Beast tear through as much as Shan Yu did.

His loss to Mulan was pure PIS.

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@captain13:

Or maybe his loss to Mulan was just a good feat for Mulan?

Anyway, Shan Yu wins round 2, I'm not sure about Round 1

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#4  Edited By Stormdriven
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@arcus: I kind of see is point though. It doesn't make much sense that she could even phase him when he was tearing through doors and roofs.

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Shan Yu

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Shan Yu in the stomp.

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I could see Beast winning Round 1, or least moreso than Round 2. Shan Yu had great strength sure, but Shang was still able to beat him down during their fight. Difference here though, Beast has claws and teeth and a rather big size to throw around compared to Shang.

Buuuut....Yu could win Round 1 too. Round 2, probably Shan yeah, sword is pretty deadly and has greater reach.

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  1. Shan Yu 6/10. He was actually pretty skilled, and was pretty strong.
  2. Shan Yu 8/10. Sword makes a difference.
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@logy5000 said:

@arcus: I kind of see is point though. It doesn't make much sense that she could even phase him when he was tearing through doors and roofs.

Martial arts ftw I guess, and it's not like she beat him up in a fistfight

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She appreciate's the shout-out haha. Anyway she's registering it as:

  1. Beast 6/10. Beast is a brawler, but (and she points out that this is simply as she recalls) we don't see much in the way of martial arts from Shan. Most of the stuff we do see of him is him taking advantage of his size and strength to toss people around, which he won't be able to do to the Beast. Not to mention the Beast has impressive blunt damage soak, since he was taking a piece of a marble statue to the head over and over from Gaston and still fought back and overcame him. Still Shan-yu is impressively strong and could potentially choke the Beast out, and he definitely fought more (not just in the film, but he's a Warlord and Beast is a prince comparatively) than Beast. Beast's natural weapons and blunt force soak will probably win him round 1 narrowly though.
  2. Shan. Beast almost died from a small knife in the back, so despite his impressive blunt force tolerance he is pretty vulnerable to piercing and probably slashing it would be logical to assume. The sword also gives Shan a reach advantage. Shan should take this 8-9/10 comfortably.

This is just my wife's (the Disney freak, I suffered through Disney on Ice this weekend) breakdown. Not my own personal opinion (which is: I have none). Admittedly, she says she hasn't watched Mulan in awhile and plans on rewatching it tomorrow now to make sure her analysis is correct, so it has the asterisk of 'subject to change' right now.

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@granitesoldier: Her opinion on Round 1 has me on the fence about it. I don't know who to give it to now haha

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@wolfrazer: Shang had the advantage over Shan-Yu because he took him by surprise. His blows didn't do much more than irritate Shan-Yu, and Shang got his @ss kicked once Shan-Yu lost his temper.

@granitesoldier IIRC, Beast actually never got hit by Gaston with the marble club. Also, Shan-Yu is arguably a good deal stronger than Gaston.

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#14  Edited By Wolfrazer

@logy5000: Eh but that was more the initial surprise though. Although that was a factor, still I stand by what I put.

I wouldn't really say Yu is a great deal stronger, stronger sure. But Gaston was able to grapple with the Beast for a little bit during their fight.

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@wolfrazer: And there is no one as strong as Gaston... as quick as Gaston...

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@wut said:

@wolfrazer: And there is no one as strong as Gaston... as quick as Gaston...

Indeed. As a specimen, yes he's intimidating. ;)

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@logy5000: I was just continuing the quote from the song in Beauty and the Beast.

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@ordinaryalan: Darn right. I'm considering making other threads with it.

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#23  Edited By OrdinaryAlan

@logy5000: Go for it. Disney battles are usually very popular in the Battles Forum. They get lots of attention typically.

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@logy5000: Go for it. Disney battles are usually very popular in the Battles Forum. They get lots of attention typically.

Yap and there are some pretty awesome characters to use.

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Round 1 - Shan Yu, mid difficulty

Round 2 - Shan Yu stomps

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#28  Edited By DevilGamer

Shan-Yu has some feats to put Beast down.

Cutted a wood pillar in one slash,

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survived an avalanche,

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and tanked this !!!!

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#29  Edited By captain_inverse

@devilgamer: I don't really think that will be enough. Gaston was in peak human health and was overpowered pretty easy once Beast put hands on him.

Gaston picking up 3 women w/ 1 arm
Gaston picking up 3 women w/ 1 arm

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  • Beast starts the fight with an arrow in his back
  • Beast dances around Gaston while he's swinging a piece of stone he (gaston) tore off from the castle
  • Beast catches a full on baseball swing from Gaston; in his jaws. And then throws him back with just a neck motion.
  • Holds Gaston w/ 1 arm outstretched

I can see an argument being made for Shan-yu w/ a weapon. But in a H2H fight he is going to get overpowered and pummeled

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#30  Edited By DevilGamer

@captain_inverse: Still this is a first encounter fight right? So obviously Shan is gonna have his sword, and btw that feat when Gaston lift those little dancels is not enough for me to think he is stronger than Shan (Still we just gonna assume Gaston is stronger), Shan cutting through those pillars rather easily pummels every weapondry attack Gaston ever had.

Also Shan Yu should be stronger, since he jumped from the palace floor to the rooftop and tanked the hit lol

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@devilgamer:

I don't recall ever saying Gaston was stronger than shan-yu.....I said he was in peak health.

There are 2 scenarios here. 1- H2H only, 2-weapons; I was making a case for round (scenario) 1 i.e H2H

Sure shan-yu is portrayed stronger than Gaston but i don't see it as such a margin as to put him above Beast. Beast could have killed Gaston at will, he's just too gentle/timid to be that aggressive. Fortunately here, Beast starts the fight enraged.

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Shan Yu wins.

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Round 1 is debatable. I am leaning towards Beast. Round 2 goes to the Hun

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Round 1: Debatable. Beast should be stronger in theory, but he doesn't necessarily have feats to back that up other than scaling against Gaston, who was well below Shan Yu. Picking up 3 small women doesn't compare with punching through an avalanche, shattering thick wooden doors with his bare hands, and jumping headfirst through thick roofing beams. Again, Beast should win maybe 6/10 in theory, but it's difficult.

Round 2: Shan Yu stomps. His sword was OP af.