Sersi and Scarlet Witch vs Jean Grey and Psylocke

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Win by Death

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Wanda's thighs solos xd

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Scarlet witch and Sersi wins

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team 1 win

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Team 1 wins.

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Wanda ain’t doing nothing to either telepath. Poor Sersi has to fight both of them.

Team Two wins.

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If bloodlusted equates to Insane/Mad Sersi...

... Team 1 should stomp!

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Team one unless Team 2 can pull an insta tp shut down. I don’t see them winning.

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#10  Edited By Koays

There just isnt any feat to suggest team 2 loses

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Team 2 via a full-force TP assault.

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Team 2 via a full-force TP assault.

Basically this.

Wanda would get downed right off the bat with either Jean or Psylocke's TP, and Sersi can't handle both of them TPing her at once.

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@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:

Team 2 via a full-force TP assault.

Basically this.

Wanda would get downed right off the bat with either Jean or Psylocke's TP, and Sersi can't handle both of them TPing her at once.

Wanda was capable of resisting Xavier but now she loses to Psylocke? Weird.

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@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:

Team 2 via a full-force TP assault.

Basically this.

Wanda would get downed right off the bat with either Jean or Psylocke's TP, and Sersi can't handle both of them TPing her at once.

Wanda was capable of resisting Xavier but now she loses to Psylocke? Weird.

Lol @ Wanda resisting Xavier when she was Red Onslaught's puppet...Who literally had Xavier's telepathy.

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Team one unless Team 2 can pull an insta tp shut down. I don’t see them winning.

Agreed depend

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Betsy solos, but comicvine isn't ready for that talk....

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@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:

Team 2 via a full-force TP assault.

Basically this.

Wanda would get downed right off the bat with either Jean or Psylocke's TP, and Sersi can't handle both of them TPing her at once.

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I thought she resisted Onslaught?

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I thought she resisted Onslaught?

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Wanda was probably fighting Red Skull's telepathic influence but she didn't resist it since she was fully under his control before the scan above. Wanda has been KO'ed by Emma via TP before and Teen Jean could also read her thoughts casually without her permission. Wanda has decent willpower and can probably resist lower-level mental influence but she won't tank/resist psychic attacks from people like Jean and Betsy especially if they're bloodlusted.

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That is false.

Wanda was under his control, and only Rogue intervening with Xavier's telepathy allowed her to break free.

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wanda 2 shots.

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@geekryan: You're quite correct, many times I've tried to tell people this.

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@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:

Team 2 via a full-force TP assault.

Basically this.

Wanda would get downed right off the bat with either Jean or Psylocke's TP, and Sersi can't handle both of them TPing her at once.

Wanda was capable of resisting Xavier but now she loses to Psylocke? Weird.

Lol @ Wanda resisting Xavier when she was Red Onslaught's puppet...Who literally had Xavier's telepathy.

Nobody has ever been able to drop Wanda with TP, she's only been tp'd by sneak attacks

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@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:

Team 2 via a full-force TP assault.

Basically this.

Wanda would get downed right off the bat with either Jean or Psylocke's TP, and Sersi can't handle both of them TPing her at once.

Wanda was capable of resisting Xavier but now she loses to Psylocke? Weird.

Lol @ Wanda resisting Xavier when she was Red Onslaught's puppet...Who literally had Xavier's telepathy.

Nobody has ever been able to drop Wanda with TP, she's only been tp'd by sneak attacks

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

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@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:

Team 2 via a full-force TP assault.

Basically this.

Wanda would get downed right off the bat with either Jean or Psylocke's TP, and Sersi can't handle both of them TPing her at once.

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@emperorzod said:

I thought she resisted Onslaught?

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That is false.

Wanda was under his control, and only Rogue intervening with Xavier's telepathy allowed her to break free.

Thank you for the insight, much appreciated.

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@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:

Team 2 via a full-force TP assault.

Basically this.

Wanda would get downed right off the bat with either Jean or Psylocke's TP, and Sersi can't handle both of them TPing her at once.

Wanda was capable of resisting Xavier but now she loses to Psylocke? Weird.

Lol @ Wanda resisting Xavier when she was Red Onslaught's puppet...Who literally had Xavier's telepathy.

Nobody has ever been able to drop Wanda with TP, she's only been tp'd by sneak attacks

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Any scans of someone droppping Wanda with TP?

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@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:

Team 2 via a full-force TP assault.

Basically this.

Wanda would get downed right off the bat with either Jean or Psylocke's TP, and Sersi can't handle both of them TPing her at once.

Wanda was capable of resisting Xavier but now she loses to Psylocke? Weird.

Lol @ Wanda resisting Xavier when she was Red Onslaught's puppet...Who literally had Xavier's telepathy.

Nobody has ever been able to drop Wanda with TP, she's only been tp'd by sneak attacks

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Any scans of someone droppping Wanda with TP?

There are soooo many instances of Wanda struggling against psychics that it's hilarious when people say otherwise. There's also Red Onslaught controlling her, Teen Jean casually reading her mind, etc.

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Wanda will never be capable of fighting a capable telepath, and she also isn’t capable of fighting a weak telepath.

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@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:

Team 2 via a full-force TP assault.

Basically this.

Wanda would get downed right off the bat with either Jean or Psylocke's TP, and Sersi can't handle both of them TPing her at once.

Wanda was capable of resisting Xavier but now she loses to Psylocke? Weird.

Lol @ Wanda resisting Xavier when she was Red Onslaught's puppet...Who literally had Xavier's telepathy.

Nobody has ever been able to drop Wanda with TP, she's only been tp'd by sneak attacks

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Any scans of someone droppping Wanda with TP?

There are soooo many instances of Wanda struggling against psychics that it's hilarious when people say otherwise. There's also Red Onslaught controlling her, Teen Jean casually reading her mind, etc.

Wanda wasn't fighting back or trying to.

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Betsy a little out of her depth. Imo team 1 edges it.

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Wanda has no decent tp feats, stop it she would get dropped off.

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@olorun said:

Betsy a little out of her depth. Imo team 1 edges it.

Based on What ? Considering she's much faster then both Sersi and Wanda combined and she's just as dangerous if not more while bloodlusted

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#34  Edited By kasya_carey

Didn't Wanda tp Emma?

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@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:

Team 2 via a full-force TP assault.

Basically this.

Wanda would get downed right off the bat with either Jean or Psylocke's TP, and Sersi can't handle both of them TPing her at once.

Wanda was capable of resisting Xavier but now she loses to Psylocke? Weird.

Lol @ Wanda resisting Xavier when she was Red Onslaught's puppet...Who literally had Xavier's telepathy.

Nobody has ever been able to drop Wanda with TP, she's only been tp'd by sneak attacks

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Any scans of someone droppping Wanda with TP?

There are soooo many instances of Wanda struggling against psychics that it's hilarious when people say otherwise. There's also Red Onslaught controlling her, Teen Jean casually reading her mind, etc.

Wanda wasn't fighting back or trying to.

So show me a feat of Wanda "fighting back" against someone trying to drop her with TP. Not mind control.

You and Josh keep bringing up the fact that Wanda "wasn't prepared" or "wasn't fighting back", yet I have not seen a single example of Wanda fighting off a TP attack from being "prepared", whatever that means...

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@geekryan said:
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@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:

Team 2 via a full-force TP assault.

Basically this.

Wanda would get downed right off the bat with either Jean or Psylocke's TP, and Sersi can't handle both of them TPing her at once.

Wanda was capable of resisting Xavier but now she loses to Psylocke? Weird.

Lol @ Wanda resisting Xavier when she was Red Onslaught's puppet...Who literally had Xavier's telepathy.

Nobody has ever been able to drop Wanda with TP, she's only been tp'd by sneak attacks

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Any scans of someone droppping Wanda with TP?

There are soooo many instances of Wanda struggling against psychics that it's hilarious when people say otherwise. There's also Red Onslaught controlling her, Teen Jean casually reading her mind, etc.

Wanda wasn't fighting back or trying to.

So show me a feat of Wanda "fighting back" against someone trying to drop her with TP. Not mind control.

You and Josh keep bringing up the fact that Wanda "wasn't prepared" or "wasn't fighting back", yet I have not seen a single example of Wanda fighting off a TP attack from being "prepared", whatever that means...

She resisted Xavier who is the most powerful telepath she's went against. Wanda has also shown that she can use TP attacks at longer range, idk why you keep ignoring that.

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@purplehairedni1: lmao at betsy being more dangerous than a bloodlusted sersi. Must be a fanboy/girl to think that.

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#38  Edited By PurplehairedNi1

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@purplehairedni1: lmao at betsy being more dangerous than a bloodlusted sersi. Must be a fanboy/girl to think that.

Not really considering I am a Sersi fan myself and let's just say she is as slow as they come and inconsistent in how she uses her powers while being bloodlusted on panel. (The same goes for Wanda) Still haven't shown me anything that wouldn't suggest Besty just shuts both of down with a single thought before they could react

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Didn't Wanda tp Emma?

She was amped by the life force during that time

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#40  Edited By PurplehairedNi1

@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:

Team 2 via a full-force TP assault.

Basically this.

Wanda would get downed right off the bat with either Jean or Psylocke's TP, and Sersi can't handle both of them TPing her at once.

Wanda was capable of resisting Xavier but now she loses to Psylocke? Weird.

Lol @ Wanda resisting Xavier when she was Red Onslaught's puppet...Who literally had Xavier's telepathy.

Nobody has ever been able to drop Wanda with TP, she's only been tp'd by sneak attacks

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Any scans of someone droppping Wanda with TP?

There are soooo many instances of Wanda struggling against psychics that it's hilarious when people say otherwise. There's also Red Onslaught controlling her, Teen Jean casually reading her mind, etc.

Wanda wasn't fighting back or trying to.

So show me a feat of Wanda "fighting back" against someone trying to drop her with TP. Not mind control.

You and Josh keep bringing up the fact that Wanda "wasn't prepared" or "wasn't fighting back", yet I have not seen a single example of Wanda fighting off a TP attack from being "prepared", whatever that means...

She resisted Xavier who is the most powerful telepath she's went against. Wanda has also shown that she can use TP attacks at longer range, idk why you keep ignoring that.

She was amped by the life force when she resisted Xavier and even if it was legit it's a great example of a outlier considering she has been affected more times then when she resists telepathy

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@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:

Team 2 via a full-force TP assault.

Basically this.

Wanda would get downed right off the bat with either Jean or Psylocke's TP, and Sersi can't handle both of them TPing her at once.

Wanda was capable of resisting Xavier but now she loses to Psylocke? Weird.

Lol @ Wanda resisting Xavier when she was Red Onslaught's puppet...Who literally had Xavier's telepathy.

Nobody has ever been able to drop Wanda with TP, she's only been tp'd by sneak attacks

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Any scans of someone droppping Wanda with TP?

There are soooo many instances of Wanda struggling against psychics that it's hilarious when people say otherwise. There's also Red Onslaught controlling her, Teen Jean casually reading her mind, etc.

Wanda wasn't fighting back or trying to.

So show me a feat of Wanda "fighting back" against someone trying to drop her with TP. Not mind control.

You and Josh keep bringing up the fact that Wanda "wasn't prepared" or "wasn't fighting back", yet I have not seen a single example of Wanda fighting off a TP attack from being "prepared", whatever that means...

She resisted Xavier who is the most powerful telepath she's went against. Wanda has also shown that she can use TP attacks at longer range, idk why you keep ignoring that.

She was amped by the life force when she resisted Xavier and even if it was legit it's a great example of a outlier considering she has been affected more times then when she resists telepathy

Ok but why would she needs to resist telepathy when she consistently uses it against enemies?

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@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:

Team 2 via a full-force TP assault.

Basically this.

Wanda would get downed right off the bat with either Jean or Psylocke's TP, and Sersi can't handle both of them TPing her at once.

Wanda was capable of resisting Xavier but now she loses to Psylocke? Weird.

Lol @ Wanda resisting Xavier when she was Red Onslaught's puppet...Who literally had Xavier's telepathy.

Nobody has ever been able to drop Wanda with TP, she's only been tp'd by sneak attacks

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Any scans of someone droppping Wanda with TP?

There are soooo many instances of Wanda struggling against psychics that it's hilarious when people say otherwise. There's also Red Onslaught controlling her, Teen Jean casually reading her mind, etc.

Wanda wasn't fighting back or trying to.

So show me a feat of Wanda "fighting back" against someone trying to drop her with TP. Not mind control.

You and Josh keep bringing up the fact that Wanda "wasn't prepared" or "wasn't fighting back", yet I have not seen a single example of Wanda fighting off a TP attack from being "prepared", whatever that means...

She resisted Xavier who is the most powerful telepath she's went against. Wanda has also shown that she can use TP attacks at longer range, idk why you keep ignoring that.

She was amped. Try again.

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@purplehairedni1: lmao how is betsy more dangerous than someone who's 2 tiers above her and is a superior psionic. Stop the wank pls.

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#44  Edited By cosmic_reign

When Sersi went Mad, she supposedly destroyed parallel Worlds/realities/timelines/Avengers as well as a Watcher. It was said that Sersi would have inevitably destroyed the Prime U, ultimately wiping all other iterations out of existence!

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Team 1 ftw

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@geekryan said:
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@geekryan said:
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@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@candymandy3366 said:
@geekryan said:
@scarlet_wiccan said:

Team 2 via a full-force TP assault.

Basically this.

Wanda would get downed right off the bat with either Jean or Psylocke's TP, and Sersi can't handle both of them TPing her at once.

Wanda was capable of resisting Xavier but now she loses to Psylocke? Weird.

Lol @ Wanda resisting Xavier when she was Red Onslaught's puppet...Who literally had Xavier's telepathy.

Nobody has ever been able to drop Wanda with TP, she's only been tp'd by sneak attacks

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Any scans of someone droppping Wanda with TP?

There are soooo many instances of Wanda struggling against psychics that it's hilarious when people say otherwise. There's also Red Onslaught controlling her, Teen Jean casually reading her mind, etc.

Wanda wasn't fighting back or trying to.

So show me a feat of Wanda "fighting back" against someone trying to drop her with TP. Not mind control.

You and Josh keep bringing up the fact that Wanda "wasn't prepared" or "wasn't fighting back", yet I have not seen a single example of Wanda fighting off a TP attack from being "prepared", whatever that means...

She resisted Xavier who is the most powerful telepath she's went against. Wanda has also shown that she can use TP attacks at longer range, idk why you keep ignoring that.

She was amped. Try again.

Sersi has better matter manipulation than Jean, and Psylocke isn't dropping Wanda with TP right off the bat, if Psylocke is fast enough to Blitz Wanda and KO her with the psi katanna or blade then maybe she could win but if not Wanda wins. Wanda has KO'd an alien at medium range with a TP attack, Wanda and Psylocke would probably drop eachother at the same time.with TP.

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@candymandy3366: Except, Psylocke actually has TP defences lol. And Wanda using telepathy as her first move against another telepath is hilarious.

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@geekryan: I'm not trying to say Wanda would use TP as her first move lol , I'm just trying to say she is capable of doing it if she needs to, but whatever X-men win every battle by dropping their opponents with TP.

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#48  Edited By cosmic_reign

@candymandy3366 said:

X-men win every battle by dropping their opponents with TP.

Tho they can win many battles via TP.... I do agree that it's a taste overhyped with certain characters... And I'm a BIG X-men fan.

But Mutants have the potential to reach the highest level of power within a specific ability, ie Omega. I get that part... but not all Omega Mutants(if any) have reached their full potential!

OT

Team 1

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@candymandy3366:

Ok but why would she needs to resist telepathy when she consistently uses it against enemies

Because there's a thing like psychic defenses which Wanda clearly struggles with considering her history against Exodus, Red Onslaught, Teen Jean where as all those telepaths are on the same power level as Jean and Psylocke

When Sersi went Mad, she supposedly destroyed parallel Worlds/realities/timelines/Avengers as well as a Watcher. It was said that Sersi would have inevitably destroyed the Prime U, ultimately wiping all other iterations out of existence!

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Team 1 ftw

Yes Sersi is more powerful then both Besty and Jean but come on her telepathy is not on par with any of the X telepaths especially the established ones (Psylocke, Jean, Rachel, Xavier, Emma, Quire and much more) and she would get dropped quite easily especially if Jean and Psylocke work together which they clearly do

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Here they were able to causally put legion to sleep someone far above both Wanda and Sersi in terms of telepathy. A another thing is Sersi and Wanda are significantly slower then Besty and Jean when it comes with how fast they're able to attack or react.

@olorun said:

@purplehairedni1: lmao how is betsy more dangerous than someone who's 2 tiers above her and is a superior psionic. Stop the wank pls.

In terms of telepathy she is.... Damm Sersi got her ass whooped by Exodus dispite having attacked him without him being aware of it. Still not a single speed feat from you to suggest Sersi or Wanda is reacting to anything from Besty or Jean. You know what the matter of fact is Besty can potentially solo via her telepathy and speed considering both Sersi and Wanda has crappy psychic defenses

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@purplehairedni1 said:

Yes Sersi is more powerful then both Besty and Jean but come on her telepathy is not on par with any of the X telepaths especially the established ones (Psylocke, Jean, Rachel, Xavier, Emma, Quire and much more) and she would get dropped quite easily especially if Jean and Psylocke work together which they clearly do

Here they were able to causally put legion to sleep someone far above both Wanda and Sersi in terms of telepathy. A another thing is Sersi and Wanda are significantly slower then Besty and Jean when it comes with how fast they're able to attack or react.

In terms of telepathy she is.... Damm Sersi got her ass whooped by Exodus dispite having attacked him without him being aware of it. Still not a single speed feat from you to suggest Sersi or Wanda is reacting to anything from Besty or Jean. You know what the matter of fact is Besty can potentially solo via her telepathy and speed considering both Sersi and Wanda has crappy psychic defenses

Sersi has already shown that she can compete telepathically against powerful, established psions, and she isn't alone here.

Disagree that Sersi is 'significantly slower' than them. She's a teleporter and physically has supersonic speed stats.

'Ass whooped'..?.. Exodus was amped during that fight. Both Jean and Wanda(along with teams) were also present but insignificant for the most part vs Exodus. Sersi engaged Exodus in a TP battle and she isn't even a high level telepath within the Eternals. But she would def be a confirmed, established Omega if she were a Mutant!