separated hulk vs warrior madness thor (w/belt of strength)

VS:

Rules:

• no mjolnir.
• fight on an empty planet.
• NO BFR.

Assuming you mean this Hulk, he stomps

EDIT: For reasons explained below. Thor stomps

@20damon: I'm not sure about that. If he's talking about Blood and Thunder Thor(some refer to that version as Warrior Madness) plus the belt of strength.

This Thor has blown holes in Celestial armor. Beat/stalemated Drax when he had the power gem. Blew a hole through a being with Odin's power. As said, I'm not sure.

@p00ty: professor hulk stalemated drax with power gem and an earlier version of hulk broke a dome that was designed to stop celestials and this hulk is stronger than both of those he wins.

@comic_book_fan: This hulk broke onslaught armor. Thor broke Celestial armor and stalemated Drax also. Neither has out performed the other.

Lack of Mjolnir is what helped me make my choice in this. Hulk has shown signifigant advantage over Thor when he lacks Mjolnir. However, this Hulk grew VERY weak as time went on when separated from Banner, so it's a tough call to make regardless.

@20damon: I didn't even notice that Thor didn't have Mjolnir. I was ready to give Hulk the win because of durability and regeneration. But you say he gets weaker?? I thought that was only because he was the Nexus of two realities (or something like that). Or does he always get weaker when separated from Banner?

He did in this case, not sure how it's been in the other cases. maybe @atheistknowledge or @ghostravage could enlighten us, my memory's a bit fuzzy on the other cases. He got weaker as time went on to the point that he was dying, but it took time since right after he was obviously strong enough to put a hole in Onslaught's armor, which is an insane striking feat.

@20damon: @p00ty: Hulk can't survive without Banner. He's been physically separated from Banner two times already and something always happens to his body, either getting weaker or inestable.

• During Incredible Hulk vol.1 #315 Banner was separated from Hulk for the first time and it concluded in Incredible Hulk vol.1 #322 with Hulk's mass being all over the place until he was literally fading into nothingness.
• The second time he was physically separated was during Marvel Onslaught, which on top of being separated, also had the intrusive energies of 2 entire universes passing through him, ultimately killing him.

Even though this hasn't been explicitly confirmed in any biographical entry, it seems to be the case, not to mention the first instance was very specific about it.

@ghostravage: @20damon:

Appreciate the info. Also, I heard that Banner Hulk is returning. He's being resurrected by the Hand. Did that already happen? Thanks in advance

@ghostravage: How powerful was this version of Hulk?

@p00ty: I don't really know, haven't kept up with the latest things because i sincerely dislike Marvel nowadays. Besides Soule's Daredevil, i'm not reading anything else from them.

Very weak, easily hurt (low yield missiles, Deadpool's katanas and a simple T-Rex were capable of harming him or flat out overpower him) although particularly smart for a Hulk without Banner's mind to compensate.

@ghostravage: Hmm, doesn't seem like much of a match for even Unworthy Thor, let alone Worthy Thor.

Definitely. He's one of the weakest Hulks to date.

Yeah, i figured that unless we'd be discussing Hulk at the moment of seperation when he punched Onslaught, it'd get bad >.>

OP might need to clarify

@20damon: Well, technically, Hulk punched Onslaught while Banner was still inside.

Ah yes, been a while since i read it. Then my vote is quite obviously changed. Forgot he didn't seperate until Onslaught's reality warping powers went wild after getting smacked in the face

Thor and it's not close.

Thor.

@asgardianbrony: Thor wins Against this Hulk regardless of what belt it was. Still, didn't Thor have additional items when he beat Thanos?

@ghostravage: @20damon: The OP needs to clarify but I'm 99% positive that he is talking about Hulk after Jean Grey turned off Banner. Like myself, he incorrectly thought that that was bannerless Hulk.

happened. I beleive Uncanny Avengers#15 and #16. IIRC

he redies at the end of the issue though.

Prof Hulk fought a Drax who was barely trying(granted Hulk wasn't trying that hard either) and did no damage to him before Moondragon took out Hulk. Thor fought a pissed off Drax to a standstill in a fight that went on and on and on without showing taking any real damage from Drax and ultimately took the pg from him the second time they fought. Its not an apples to apples comparison.

@p00ty: Hulk came back for two issues like mentioned above, he didn't do much aside from tank Human torches nova blast.

@battle123axe: @thedailybagel: Thanks for the info.

@asgardianbrony: I forgot about the gauntlet. I remember a big shield. But Thor wins

@asgardianbrony: It wasn't confirmed Thanosi was as powerful as Thanos.

@asgardianbrony: Fact that he retconned it to be a clone already means he wasn't as powerful as Thanos as Thanosi is/are usually weaker than Thanos (excluding clones like Omega). And he didn't preform any feats to prove he is as powerful as the real Thanos. It might be a more powerful clone but still a clone, not the real thing.

@asgardianbrony: Threatening someone does not show how powerful you are. Batman threatened the Spectre. Fact that it was Thanosi means that he has to prove he is as powerful as the real Thanos rather than me (or anybody else) proving he is not as powerful as the real thing. Based on feats he is not and based on the actual statements, there is nothing to prove he is. We only know it was a clone and almost every single clone Thanos created was weaker than the original. Why would I assume this one is different? There is no reason for me to assume he is and I have full right to call him weaker than Thanos. But hey, he was powerful enough to wreck Thor pretty hard so I guess the belt does give Thor a lot of power boost but still not enough to beat Thanos.

This. Seperated Hulk loses terribly. And should lose convincingly to regular Thor. Arguing if it was Thano or a clone ir rather irrelevant since Hulk gets stomped either way here >.>

@asgardianbrony: it wasn't thanos... It was retconned to be a thanosi, are you seriously using mangog calling him Thanos as an argument?

@asgardianbrony: I replied but at this point I doubt we are gonna agree so I'm just gonna move on. If you want to read what I said, it is behind the spoiler block below. Sorry for bothering you.

Hulk FTW he broke onslaughts armor, which all of Earths heros failed to do, in fact they didn't even scratch him. Without the crazy hacks and raw power that the hammer brings Thor can't put him down.

@asgardianbrony: I could argue Magog feared him because he was convinced it was Thanos and even Cosmic Entities are afraid of him because of his sheer knowledge, intellect and capability.

@krleavenger: To be fair, as confirmed by Thanos in Thanos Infinity Abyss, three Thanosi actually did rival the real Thanos. Those being the ones called Warrior, Mystic, and X (with Warrior at least being confirmed physically stronger than the real Thanos), with Omega being superior, and Armor being a lower level model. The one Thor fought would be a lower end model as well, but by how much is unknown, most likely like the rest of the unthemed prototype models.

@blackpantherisb: That was not Bannerless Hulk who destroyed the armor. Bannerless Hulk didn't appear until AFTER Hulk was sent to the world created by Franklin and Banner stayed on our earth. When Hulk cracked Onslaught armor, banner and Hulk was still fused.

@jrupert1: That is why I said "most" or "usually" instead "every single one" or "all the time".

IMO, since we don't know the power level of the clone then we go by his feats WITHOUT his amps(the clone had amps also).

Must have missed that. lol But I did see this
"Thanos >>> any Thanos besides Omega." and "And I'm saying again, he was Thanosi and every Thanosi is weaker than Thanos"

Which you could understand lead me to believe a certain thing and thus respond in a devils advocate manner.

@jrupert1: Yeah I see. I was over exaggerating on that last post.

hulk dies horribly, because of the spearation

@spambot: professor hulk took a dive he wan't knocked out and it's been a while but i don't recall anything saying drax wasn't trying.

@comic_book_fan: If you're referring to the same battle I am(from Infinity Watch) he was ko'd by a Moondragon psibolt. Drax in that battle was barely trying also and thought he and Hulk were just playing.