Sentry,Orion,Silver Surfer and World Breaker Hulk vs Despero and Wonder Woman

616,Post crisis/new 52 and current feats for Sentry.Current Wonder Woman feats are not allowed.

Bloodlusted

Who wins and why?

Current WW solo.

@tensor: op said just current sentry

I don't think Base Wonder Woman has much to offer here unless she has her Witching Hour abilities which then becomes a stomp in Team 2's favour. Team 2 should win anyways since Despero can mind control at least half of Team 1.

Team one wonder woman is a weak link here, not counting her magic boost which will probabsbly be temporary, at least in its current form

Despero can TP everyone here with little to no trouble, unless I'm missing something here. Hulk's always been rather resistant to it but I fail to see how he can do so here.

Current Sentry hasn't even gotten anything that impressive yet outside of hype and implication.

@diarrhearegatta: he merged with void also it's still the same sentry but also void in his side

Despero should TP hard. Though since everyone is bloodlusted and Wonder Woman is not allowed her amped feats she gets fodderiezed and so does Sentry.

@empressofdread: I don't think sentry is gonna fodderized with now void backing his side nope not gonna happen but I agree he is not the most valuable player here that you can count on

@diarrhearegatta: Despero has better TP than Dr. Strange or Charles+Emma?

Better than Xavier and Emma, yes. Don't know enough about Strange to make a conclusive statement. I'm not seeing him not getting at least bothered by his TP considering J'onn got stomped by it multiple times, and his TP defence is pretty strong in comparison.

@diarrhearegatta: feats that put him above Xavier+Emma?

What feats put them above MMH in the first place? From my knowledge, he's already above Xavier, and while Emma is definitely impressive, I doubt they could stomp J'onn as badly as Despero did.

@diarrhearegatta: I personally rate Xavier above Jonn, I haven't really seen anything from Jonn that tops Xavier manipulating the minds of the entire Skrull Empire into Galactus' heads minus over the top stuff like TP'ing Abstracts

Haven't seen anything that puts Xavier on MMHs level of TP till date.

@diarrhearegatta: Sentry,Hulk and Ss have Telepathy resistance and Sentry and Ss have telepathy as well

J'onn did the same thing against D'Kay D'Razz but instead J'onn used the minds of people on Earth, including characters like Wonder Woman, Flash, etc. while fighting on Mars. D'Kay can perceive billions of thoughts unintentionally.

Bump.

They have resistance, but I doubt they could deal with Despero's TP with no preparation beforehand. A sudden telepathic attack is usually more successful than one in which the other dude knows it's coming. That, and his phenomenal strength means that I can say with confidence that Sentry and Surfer wouldn't be able to stop it.

Team one should take this. Orion on his own is about as strong as WW. SS, Sentry, and WBH are simply too much for Despero to handle especially considering he has struggled and has even been defeated by Superman alone.

Either that or Despero if just Sentry gets current feats.

He casually simultaineously mind raped Martian Manhunter and Aquaman. MMH is Xavier level and given a TP assault from Arther caused pain to every living thing for 100s of miles and that he has casually mind raped white martians hes Emma level.

He's also casually controlled several opponents at the same time who have TP resistance feats that would let them resist Xavier or Emma

Kordax had TP control of all of Atlantis and Arthur tore him to shreds with a TP assault that put everything in the ocean across the globe in pain.

Gallery

Tp mind raping white martians (who are MMH TP level)

Mind raping a dimensional entity that MMH couldnt.

Yet despero casually disregards their combined TP and mind rapes them making his bitches in a few panels

@dimlylitlantern: When was Despero defeated by Superman?

Current MMH's TP is noticeably above Despero's as of the New 52

Did Wonder Woman gets some astronomically huge amp lately?. She would lose to outright get fodderized by the members of team one.

@nitelite: Here

@dimlylitlantern: Thanks for the link.

@brucerogers: Fodderized is a very strong word probably not applicable here given the members in team one save for maybe WBH and full powered Sentry.

I fail to see what Wonder Woman adds given that she'd be beaten by anyone from Team 1 sans Sentry maybe.

@king-ragnar: I thought she could distract the team if Despero gets overwhelmed.

Yeah the current Wonder Woman recently transformed into a fusion of reality warper and Zatanna on mega steroids.

And the current Sentry hasn't the feats to beat her post crisis onwards self in bloodlusted even without witching transformation.

So no current feats for Wonder Woman?

Well then is it Despero who solos instead, so it makes anyways not much difference.

That's why I said she will lose to or get outright fodderized by the members of team one.

It's between Sentry and Despero.

yup,her current feats are not allowed.

She wouldn't lose to Sentry and fodderize them with witching-mode.

@gunchar16:I see. So is this a perma amp and what has she actually done with it?.

And current Sentry has merged with the Void, so he should be able beat her standard post crisis self pretty easily.

@brucerogers:

@gunchar16:I see. So is this a perma amp and what has she actually done with it?.

Let me answer that for him or her, i anyways need to update the respect thread later on today. Diana was actually already witchmarked since she was a little child and the Upside Down Man just found this strange power inside her and let it out as he appeared on earth. Here just a few of the things that happened since then:

The first things she did was to banish the Upside Down Man, revive Swamp Thing, turn Detective Chimp back together and give Constantine his demon blood back:

Which is pretty impressive, cause the Upside Down Man is an embodiment of the power Nabu and the Lords of Chaos and Order and any other non-divine or demonic magic-user in the DC-Verse get their magic from, he also one-shotted Swamp Thing, grew back together, walked through a demonic spell of Constantine that was so far out of John's league that it nearly killed him by using it, walked through Zatanna's spells, turned Detective Chimp into a puddle and reality warped Diana right before she transformed. That was his introduction at Fate's tower by the way:

Later on started Diana with outright reality warping herself and as example ripped holes into reality by just flicking her wrist:

then she and Hecate the source of that power had a reality warping duel in which reality was writing and rewriting itself:

and just now has Diana shortly survived Universal level magical power racing inside her body:

and Black Orchid thinks Diana's soul just died, so she would be a bloodlusted Berserker anyways.

And before someone tells me the rules, these scans are from multiple issues of the 2 different series Justice League Dark and Wonder Woman

And current Sentry has merged with the Void, so he should be able beat her standard post crisis self pretty easily.

Has current Sentry any impressive feats so far?

Despero tp's

GG.

+1

@alsimmons77: current sentry is sentry + void he finally decided to to merged with void so it's sentry + void feats it's not an amp also is this ww a Good match for King thor who just merged with phnoiex and defeats Dr doom with Powers of odin Dr strange starbrand ?

I might Team 1 here.

I'm no expert on King Thor and the full extend of witching Diana is unclear so far, so i dunno.

@alsimmons77: ok

@brucerogers:

@alsimmons77 already explained it very good.