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#201 Edited by JediXMan (42477 posts) - - Show Bio

The guy that wasn't squished by a helicarrier wins here. >_>

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#202 Posted by Silver2467 (16759 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:
" The guy that wasn't squished by a helicarrier wins here. >_> "
Hilarious truth for the win. 
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#203 Posted by spidey 15 (17883 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:
" The guy that wasn't squished by a helicarrier wins here. >_> "
lol, true.=]
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#204 Edited by difficlus (10659 posts) - - Show Bio

surfer for the win, more feats, greater versatility, stronger, better energy and atomic manupilator and form what it seems way more durable (skits supernova's and blackholes like its nothing)

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#205 Posted by manx422 (486 posts) - - Show Bio

Sentry

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#206 Posted by JediXMan (42477 posts) - - Show Bio
@manx422 said:
" Sentry "
How?
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#207 Posted by Silver2467 (16759 posts) - - Show Bio
@manx422 said:
" Sentry stands no chance. "
Fixed.
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#208 Posted by emperorvulcan432 (248 posts) - - Show Bio
@Thor's hammmer:
ya classic surfer maybe but the current surfer is alot more powerful than he used to be. sentry cant win this.  
 
 
i see sentry as a character who was pumped up too much in the beginning and thought to have a lot of power...and yes he has some great power but  half of the time he couldnt control sh!t, he was worse than the hulk at controlling his abilities. and ya someone like him might look more powerful powerful than anything that exists but he aint and weve rarely seen silver surfer unleashing everybit he has.
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#209 Posted by Hellos (8886 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" @JediXMan said:
" The guy that wasn't squished by a helicarrier wins here. >_> "
Hilarious truth for the win.  "

To be fair, it didn't even scratch him. :P
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#210 Posted by Decoy Elite (30159 posts) - - Show Bio
@manx422 said:
" Sentry "
A friend of mine needs to talk to you. 
The link is safe.
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#211 Posted by Master Shake (77 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer wins here, he has almost every advantage.

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#212 Posted by JediXMan (42477 posts) - - Show Bio
@Hellos said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @JediXMan said:
" The guy that wasn't squished by a helicarrier wins here. >_> "
Hilarious truth for the win.  "
To be fair, it didn't even scratch him. :P "
Nope. But it did force the Void to revert back into Robert. And the blast wasn't that strong.
 
@Decoy Elite said:
" @manx422 said:
" Sentry "
A friend of mine needs to talk to you.  The link is safe. "

Ha! That's great.
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#213 Posted by emperorvulcan432 (248 posts) - - Show Bio
@Decoy Elite:
ahahahahahahahahahaha
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#214 Posted by Hellos (8886 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:
"Nope. But it did force the Void to revert back into Robert. And the blast wasn't that strong. "

It came off to me as more of forcing Reynolds to wake up. "Knocking some sense into him" sorta thing since the Void was in complete control as Bob sat inside his head doing a lot of nothing.
A little flair up of anger he was back to being the Void/Sentry and this time Bob was actually seemingly present shouting for someone to kill him. Which probably is the reason Sentry hasn't randomly reformed out of nowhere after Thor "killed" him. 
 
I have to say though, it seemed like a decent focused blast imo. Helicarrier must be running on some crazy fictional tech power source to be floating all over the place.

 
 
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#215 Posted by JediXMan (42477 posts) - - Show Bio
@Hellos: 
 
Maybe. 
 
It was a powerful blast, but I think it was under the level of a nuke.
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#216 Posted by Mr Golden Rod (166 posts) - - Show Bio

The sentry would just break the surfers board and cut off his power. Its been done before.

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#217 Posted by JediXMan (42477 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mr Golden Rod said:
" The sentry would just break the surfers board and cut off his power. Its been done before. "
???????
 
You do know his power does not come from the board, right?
 
Board breaks. He reforms it. He can and has done that.
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#218 Posted by Hellos (8886 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:
" @Hellos:   Maybe.   It was a powerful blast, but I think it was under the level of a nuke. "

Yeah it seemed a lot more focused around the general area where Sentry was, if it was the level Nuke a lot of Marvel heroes near the general area would have died or at least gotten a nasty dose of radiation. Can't have Captain American die again now can we?   
I wouldn't begin to have a clue how powerful it was, because it's all comic book science powering that explosion.  
 
Did make for a bright pretty show that poked through the clouds though. :P
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#219 Posted by Hellos (8886 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mr Golden Rod said:
"The sentry would just break the surfers board and cut off his power. Its been done before."

The board being broken? Yes, him being cut off his power because his board broke, hell naw. 
 

Surfer going all yoda like in his sentences. :P
Surfer going all yoda like in his sentences. :P
 
Didn't have a problem beating Jesus Cable without the board. :P 
Maybe a quote from the Surfer himself would clear this up? 

 
 
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#220 Edited by emperorvulcan432 (248 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan:
ya it was powerful,but the surfer can destroy a planet,think of it that way 
 
what about this question guys:SENTRY vs. THANOS? who'd win in that
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#221 Posted by supermandefender (2170 posts) - - Show Bio
@Hellos: Correct Norrin is more durable than Ares but your forgetting Sentrys power....he can atler his molecules to achieve any feat....however the Void has more control over this power than Sentry does.....and it was Sentry/Void that did all those crazy feats not Sentry himself. Im sure its say to say if Sentry can hold his own with Hulks in power...and match Thor and have a loss and later over power him.....i think its safe to say the same could be done to Surfer. However,  I am going to stick to my answer and say Surfer. Surfer has to many feats to back him up against the Sentry. That said Surfer should win but only because its the Void who has more control over his powers and not Sentry himself and this debate is Sentry vs Surfer not Sentry/Void vs Surfer.  If it was Sentry Void vs Surfer is say Surfer might have some problems.
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#222 Posted by spidey 15 (17883 posts) - - Show Bio

SS wins with ease.=]

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#223 Posted by Surge2477 (1118 posts) - - Show Bio
@Thor's hammmer said:
"@Surge2477 said:
"the sentry/void was reverted back to a human by a sheild heli carrier impact (poor writing for a being said to have stalmated galactus), an attack that the surfer would've ignored. Surfer has easily beaten more powerful beings then the sentry/void. The surfer has enough power to obliterate a planet & if a helicarrier explosion & thor's lightning attack was able hurt the sentry/void, then I don't see how this thread has lasted this long.   Silver Surfer 10/10 "
Thor has beaten classic surfer anyway and bill was still strong enough to hurt Silver Surfer "

I'm aware of that sir. My point is given how the Sentry/Void was killed, I see no reason as to how he can beat The Silver Surfer
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#224 Posted by Hellos (8886 posts) - - Show Bio
@supermandefender said:

" @Hellos: Correct Norrin is more durable than Ares but your forgetting Sentrys power....he can atler his molecules to achieve any feat....however the Void has more control over this power than Sentry does.....and it was Sentry/Void that did all those crazy feats not Sentry himself. Im sure its say to say if Sentry can hold his own with Hulks in power...and match Thor and have a loss and later over power him.....i think its safe to say the same could be done to Surfer. However,  I am going to stick to my answer and say Surfer. Surfer has to many feats to back him up against the Sentry. That said Surfer should win but only because its the Void who has more control over his powers and not Sentry himself and this debate is Sentry vs Surfer not Sentry/Void vs Surfer.  If it was Sentry Void vs Surfer is say Surfer might have some problems. "


His, being the Surfers? Because Norrin has shown great control over his atomic structure and the Void Sentry himself said he wasn't all too experienced with it needed retconned MM to fix the damage he did.
   
 
 
 
I really don't have a reason to assume past reforming himself Void/Sentry has gotten any better at it by the team Siege happens. Norrin still has better feats with it, all Sentry really got around to doing with it was killing retconned Molecule Man.
But again ripping Ares in half is still a FAR CRY from doing the same to Thor, much less Norrin.
 
The Sentry should slaughterhouse the Hulk if he's not putting his face into the Hulk's fist like WWH, the Void on it's own broke every bone in his body like a twig.  
Thor himself seemingly wasn't have too easy of a time, but he does have a bad habit of holding back and didn't really throw the rediculous attacks out till Siege #4 which at that point after the helicarrier drops on him Bob is screaming in Void form for them to kill him. Which Thor did.  
 
Now Norrin's current power output while not holding back should prove effective enough to handle Void Sentry from Siege.
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#225 Edited by Surge2477 (1118 posts) - - Show Bio
@Hellos:

The Sentry should slaughterhouse the Hulk if he's not putting his face into the Hulk's fist like WWH, the Void on it's own broke every bone in his body like a twig.  
    
iN ALL FAIRNESS THOUGH, THAT WAS A DIFFERENT HULK. The Hulk that beat the Sentry was much more powerful than the one who was defeated by the Void.
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#226 Posted by Surge2477 (1118 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mr Golden Rod said:

"The sentry would just break the surfers board and cut off his power. Its been done before."


This isn't the Surfer from the fantastic 4 film. 
 
 
 
 

I hardly think that this is really much of a debate in my mind. Even the Sentry/Void doesn't seem impressive in terms of how much damage it can take. Surfer would've smiled at the helicarrier attack. Again a concussive blast capable of destroying a planet will end this quick. Even the molecular manipulation won't work as the Surfer has greater control over this power then the Sentry/Void showed. Sentry has even shown that his power source can be exhausted. Bringing down Asgard was a tremendous strength feat, but that won't help Sentry/Void vs the Surfer. Surfer is far more powerful then Sentry/Void has shown to be thus far. 
 
Surfer for the win vs any incarnation of Sentry/Void 
   
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#228 Posted by Supreme Cosmic (914 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel creates a beefed up superman but stupid writers trash him so bad that nobody believe that he can play with the big boys. True that as he is shown, Silver surfer beats the sentry and does so quickly.

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#229 Posted by emperorvulcan432 (248 posts) - - Show Bio

ya he might be able to fight the hulk but he was reverted back when he fighted the hulk becus he went all out,if surfer went all out there wouldnt be any trace of hulk.and the point is that surfer can beat sentry either way u put it.if thor can finish off sentry after the helicarrier hit sentry than surfer can do it easy.
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#230 Posted by manx422 (486 posts) - - Show Bio

Sentry is a low level reality manipulator
He can easily defeat surfer

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#231 Posted by Silver2467 (16759 posts) - - Show Bio
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" Sentry is a low level reality manipulator He can easily defeat surfer "
No, he can't. Sentry is not a reality warper, and his molecular manipulation is pathetic. Surfer has manipulated matter on a planetary scale. He has gone into black holes; whereas Sentry got taken down by the helicarrier. Surfer can destroy planets; whereas Sentry had a hard time destroying a city block. Surfer can travel between galaxies in very short periods time; whereas Sentry can only fly to the sun in short periods of time. Surfer wins this with total and complete ease. 
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#232 Posted by manx422 (486 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467: Then how do u explain his different void forms, him coming back from the dead twice, bringing back his wife back to life
A matter manipulator cannot achieve these feats
Bendis said Sentry does not have matter manipulation powers he only thought he had these powers just like Scarlet witch
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#233 Edited by vance_astro (90094 posts) - - Show Bio
@manx422 said:

Bendis said Sentry does not have matter manipulation powers he only thought he had these powers just like Scarlet witch "

When did that happen? Scarlet Witch is reality manipulator...are you saying that's what Sentry is? Because that would make matter manipulation irrelevant.Reality is better.
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#234 Posted by BattleMage (1197 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
" @manx422 said:
Bendis said Sentry does not have matter manipulation powers he only thought he had these powers just like Scarlet witch "
When did that happen? "
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#235 Posted by Silver2467 (16759 posts) - - Show Bio
@manx422 said:
" @Silver2467: Then how do u explain his different void forms, him coming back from the dead twice, bringing back his wife back to lifeA matter manipulator cannot achieve these feats Bendis said Sentry does not have matter manipulation powers he only thought he had these powers just like Scarlet witch "
He has the ability to resurrect himself and on one occasion, his wife. He's not a reality warper. It has never been shown or stated in a comic that he has that. Besides, even if he was a reality warper (which he's not), he's gotten beaten down by She-Hulk before. He got taken down by the helicarrier. Sentry doesn't stand a chance against Surfer. 
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#236 Posted by spidey 15 (17883 posts) - - Show Bio

This isn't a fair fight. SS wins veeeeerryyyyyyyyy easy. It's insult for him to be against sentry.=]

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#237 Posted by JediXMan (42477 posts) - - Show Bio
@spidey 15 said:
" This isn't a fair fight. SS wins veeeeerryyyyyyyyy easy. It's insult for him to be against sentry.=] "
THIS! I like this answer.
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#238 Posted by spidey 15 (17883 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan: Thanks....=P
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#239 Edited by TheJuggernautpunch (6148 posts) - - Show Bio

Seriously ... how is this even a fight ? Norrin stomps .

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#240 Posted by manx422 (486 posts) - - Show Bio
@BattleMage:@Vance Astro: It was in a interview related to siege given to CBR
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#241 Posted by Havoc@ (104 posts) - - Show Bio

Sentry was holding back. Deal with it. He was baiting the Hulk, trying not to kill him. That's why he stood there like a punching bag. Hell most of the fights in WWHulk was like that. Hulk's opponents just didn't go all out. 
 
P.S. Surfer stomps down Sentry. Although sentry is big fish in our little blue planet. He's small fry compared to the vast universal ocean. Surfer is a planet destroyer.

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#242 Posted by SentryVoid616 (209 posts) - - Show Bio

I say that it would be a tight fight but ithink sentry would win, because he can reform himself after being blown into molecules, and he has speed and alot of strength but saying that SS could win! I like the sentry, cos he looks awesome and he is a grounded character, unlike other MU and DCU characters! Please stop the sentry hating! and if you dont like a hero/heroine, dont blast other people for likin them, ive seen that on a few posts! comicvine seems like an amazing community with alot of passionate comic lovin peeps! So in conclusion....the fight could go either way but i think sentry is just too powerful an entity for SS to beat outright! but before u all have a go at me for saying it, SS may win due to the fact he has mastery of his powers! over to the next guy....

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#243 Posted by spidey 15 (17883 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer wins with great ease. 
=D

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#244 Posted by OldIdiotAccount (4910 posts) - - Show Bio

SS.

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#245 Posted by ladose (7 posts) - - Show Bio

many scans for ss but not for sentry....!!

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#246 Posted by supermandefender (2170 posts) - - Show Bio
@ladose:  because ss will win this. were not even talking about sentry/void or sentry from where? Sentry/void still loses though.
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#247 Posted by ladose (7 posts) - - Show Bio

agree.

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#248 Posted by 651 (226 posts) - - Show Bio

silver surfer

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#249 Posted by Gremlin From Kremlin (2978 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer stomps.

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#250 Edited by jumpstart55 (11025 posts) - - Show Bio

This makes no sense people think Supes can stomp Sentry, but get stomped but the Sufer himself, yet some how Sentry is more of a match for the Sufer.