Scenario: Anakin, Ahsoka & Obi Wan vs Dooku and Grievous

VS

Assume that the Battle of Coruscant plays out more or less the same as it did in the movie, but with Anakin and Obi Wan joined by Ahsoka. Dooku orders Grievous to join him when confronting the Jedi realizing there are more than expected.

• Fight takes place in the same room seen in the movie.
• All are ROTS versions.
• Everybody is going for the kill and may fight whoever they choose.

Round 1: Disney versions

Round 2: Legends versions, scale Ahsoka proportionally to the legends characters she fights in TCW.

Callouts:

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Anakin solos Dooku, Kenobi solos Greivous, Ahsoka eats popcorn.

Sith team. It was already a close thing before Anakin got in the zone, and grievous adds a lot more here than ahsoka does.

Dooku vs Anakin/obi wan and ahsoka vs grievous = Grievous defeats ahsoka, and dooku takes out obi wan leaving Anakin vs dooku/Grievous. He loses.

Anakin and ahsoka vs dooku and Obi wan vs Grievous= Dooku kills ahsoka while Obi defeats grievous and the movie plays out.

Obi/ahsoka vs dooku and Anakin vs Grievous= Dooku kills both and Anakin gets double teamed.

All around, their are more chances where the team loses than they win.

Sith team 7/10

Or Dooku takes out Obi Wan while fighting Anakin leaving Ahsoka to fight the General?

I think its far less simple than what you suggest.

Ahsoka will just hinder Kenobi and Skywalker.

@mysterymeat: Is Zonakin allowed?

Well ROTS Anakin and Kenobi have already beaten Dooku and Grievous respectively. Ahsoka can hold her own but certainly I don't see her killing or even stalemating outstanding duelists like Dooku and Grievous, especially in their Legends incarnations, she would be butcher by either of them.

going wit team 1

I changed it hours ago.

Only if something bad happens to his team mates, like Dooku ragdolling Obi Wan.

Kenobi honestly has a chance against Dooku has long as he isn't taken out with the force again, and Ahsoka can arguably solo Grievous, leaving Anakin to either help her cream Grievous, or help Obi-wan beat Dooku again.

Anakin>Dooku>Kenobi>Ahsoka>=Grievous

Team 1 wins with Zonakin.

That's a huge if, given that he's always and consistently lost to Dooku every time they fight. I don't even want to know how long he'd last 1v1 against Darth Tyranus at this stage.

Not to challenge or agree with the outcome you're suggesting, I'm just explaining why its far from clear cut.

@mysterymeat: It's possible Dooku and Grievous can win, mostly due to Dooku, but I think it's pretty clear cut the trio take the majority.

If Dooku is allowed to give it his all, think of Sidious vs Agen Kolar, Saesee Tiin and Kit Fisto.

Team 1

Team 1

Anakin and Obi-Wan are definitely occupied with Dooku, Ahsoka can’t hang with Grievous alone and will get butchered very quick. With Grievous joining his master the Jedi lose decisively.

@alextheboss said:

@alextheboss said:

Dooku is going straight for the kill in this thread. Anakin only overwhelms Dooku with time.

If Dooku could repeatedly tag Obi-Wan & Anakin during mock-duels -- the third instance being quite decisive in regard to how he affected both Jedi -- how much worse is it going to be in a no-holds-barred brawl to the death, with Grievous -- a juggernaut in his own right capable of "hardpressing" ROTS Obi-Wan -- occupying at least one member of team 1?

Whether or not he's actually better, Dooku has repeatedly demonstrated the ability to do considerable harm against both Anakin & Obi-Wan when he's not serious.

What's to prevent him from doing it again, and actually exploit what he manages to the fullest?

Fold Anakin. Impale Obi-Wan instead of taking his time with choking and tossing. Double team Ahsoka while Anakin is still down and then finish him off.

Team 2

Ahsoka is a non factor. Dooku and GG win.

Anakin and Obi-Wan rekill the people they have already killed on screen, galaxy brain thread.

This. Anakin has already beaten Dooku and Obi Wan has already beaten Grevious. They're not particularly interesting matchups given that we know what has happened in the film.

Anakin and Kenobi wins.

Ahsoka would be murdered by either Separatist.

Or Ahsoka dies to Grievous while Obi Wan gets knocked out by Dooku again, making this a very close fight?

NonStarwars Live-action guys should stay on their lane, tbh.

I think a lot of people are forgetting that Kenobi and Skywalker's coordination and teamwork is borderline perfect. Throwing Ahsoka in actually compromises that entire coordination.

As a Djem So master, Anakin has a weakness to the intense, 21-strikes-per-second-esque fighting technique that Grievous uses, whereby he'll struggle to match those blow for blow whilst simultaneously maintaining his footwork to avoid the General's movements. If he faces him, he goes down.

The moment Ahsoka goes down (and she will go down), it's up in the air. Anakin will go full Zonakin, but without Palpatine to centre his rage, Dooku will compromise him again, leaving him vulnerable and allowing Dooku to strike him down.

Kenobi can beat Grievous, but that fight alone will last quite a while, and that's assuming that he's fully learned to let go and embrace who he is at his core at this point (which he didn't learn how to properly do until after his pep talk with Mace pre-Utapau). Zonakin might end up being hampered further by Obi-Wan's presence, who will try to urge him to stop tapping into the Dark Side, compromising him further. The death of Ahsoka will also affect Kenobi's fighting style, though whether it will improve his focus or shred it is debatable.

Either way, this is a very good match-up, with many factors. If Ahsoka weren't here, Anakin would eventually beat Dooku, Zonakin or not. With her here, her death will amp him but also screw him up mentally.

I'll hesitatingly say the Jedi win because I'm willing to give Ahsoka the benefit of the doubt and say that she can provide some support against prime Grievous or even Dooku for long enough for whomever she helps to strike them down. However, once she dies it could go either way.

@mysterymeat:

Anakin would solo Dooku before he could finish him so it’s a non-issue.

I started with SW when Nova and ILS were still around, what are you on?

@buildhare:

Anakin would solo Dooku before he could finish him so it’s a non-issue.

Evidently not, the movie more or less demonstrated that Dooku can beat Obi Wan before Anakin can wear him out.

I started with SW when Nova and ILS were still around, what are you on?

Then either you declined or didn't improve at all from casual movie watcher level.

LMFAO.

Also where is bullshit that ahsoka >= grievous come from

Didn't Greivous lose to a bunch of Jar-Jars? :P

In all seriousness, here's propably what happens in Canon.

1. Greivous takes out Ashoka.
2. Dooku takes out Obi-Wan.
3. Anakin takes out Dooku.
4. Anakin ragdolls Greivous.

Overall, Team 1 due to Anakin.

In Legends:

1. Greivous wrecks Ashoka.
2. Greivous helps Dooku.
3. Dooku takes out Obi-Wan.
4. Anakin loses to the evil duo.

Overall, Team 2, with Ashoka as the weak link.

Canon GG being above Ahsoka is just a laughable lowball. Legends GG is beastly but his lowshowings are just as egregious.

Anakin beats Dooku. Obi Wan beats Grievous. Ahsoka isn't really needed.

Basically this

This is TCW Ahsoka mate. She not that impressive.