Scathan The Approver vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder

Scathan all day, every day.

Can someone share some feats? They're both vague as fuck but Beyonder has more feats I guess

Tell me do you think scathan can take on the Beyonders? can he take down HOTU Thanos? no? Pre Retcon Beyonder snaps him out of existence

@lettsplay10: Scathan gives them a thumbs down.

Nuff said.

Protege is fodder compared to these characters

@lettsplay10: Everyone is fodder to Scathan.

Only a few exceptions can match him; Cena, Batgod, Norris....

aaah i get it now

@lettsplay10: Even if I did actually debate there's only like what one page worth of Scathan doing something?

As impressive as his few feats are the dude is the definition of vague.

If this is full power Pre-Retcon Beyonder, I see him winning the majority.

Beyonder obliterates effortlesly.

I don't think there is anybody in the history of fiction who can defeat the Beyonder.

@odinslayer: Ah yeah there is actually, Molecule man and Protege could match him. TLT, fulcrum & tiamut is above him and lets not mention TOAA because that would be silly. Thats just to say a few of top of my head.

Based on what?

TOAA wins.

@thetruthhurts:

How is TLT above PRB when LT was scared of him and PRB was confirmed to be superior?

Based on what are Fulcrum and Tiamut above PRB?

@firsthunter: well if you knew anything you would know that the fulcrum is basically jack kirby. So i guess you could call him the " right hand man " to TOAA and is considered Omnipotent. Tiamut was recognised by the Fulcrum to be the only other being/creation in exsistance that might be on his level. You may be right about TLT "fearing" beyonder but lets not forget they are BOTH multiverse level threats. Keyword here being "multiverse".

Actually, I'd say Jack Kirby(RIP) as the true/original TOAA!!

On topic--

There can be endless arguments to support both sides...perhaps STALEMATE

@thetruthhurts:

well if you knew anything you would know that the fulcrum is basically jack kirby. So i guess you could call him the " right hand man " to TOAA

Proof?

but lets not forget they are both multiverse level threats.

So? Beyonder still stomps.

@odinslayer: you are so wrong to think that

And squirrel girl, off panel.

Probably going to go with beyonder here.

Beyonder curbstomps. And he's an infinite dimensional being

http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Beyonder_(Pre-Retcon)

PR Beyonder literally stomps.

@god_spawn@jedixman

inb4 scathan.

PR Beyonder wins.

@firsthunter: no. not if scathan doesnt approve.

@thetruthhurts: When the F4 went to Heaven they saw God as Jack Kirby. TOAA has also been depicted as Kirby

Theres an arguement to be made that Scathan the approver is actually TOAA in disguise. Due to te fact he only appeared one time ever and that was when the multiverse (leading to the omniverse) was at the brink of anihilation due to protege's rediculous ability. He was also able to do what no else could, This includes TLT and Pre-Retcon beyonder and was able to subdue protege. Long enough for TLT to work his magic. And that was pretty much all. We never hear or see of this "Scathan the approver" ever again no mentions no refrences nothing. So basically TLT was the judge and Scathan was the jury. Which adds fuel to the speculation, and with that Potentially meaning it was actually TOAA

@kgb725: "The Fulcrum is the ancient cosmic force which the Celestials, the Watchers and the Horde serve without question. He is the second most powerful being in the Marvel Multiverse, second to The-One-Above-All. Rumours have said The Fulcrum is Jack Kirby himself."

Thats quoted straight off of comic vines character description.

However i do know what you are talking about because he did appear before the fantastic 4 as God and scans prove that, but i think the widely accepted answer is that TOAA is in fact stan lee.

Scathan approving or not won't do anything to Beyonder.

That's only inside of the Beyond Realm and Dimensions don't really mean much in Marvel.

I think Beyonder stomps but that's not a valid reason.

@thetruthhurts: Where's the proof ? Also I doubt that even includes pre retcon beyonder

TOAA is usually accepted as both Kirby and Lee.

It is valid and your opinions matter not lol, go to VS Battles to debate them then, fodder. So they can annihilate you

It isn't valid and vsbattles is made entirely of opinions. Other users have debated them, fodder. And they permabanned the account.

Beyonder create another scathon for fun and that one thumbs down the original beyonder is on another level powerful as scathon is

Scathan

Scathan wins.

Scathan approves his retcon.

The Beyonder wins and it's not even remotely close. PR Beyonder is just on a whole other level.

I don't think there can be a clear winner here.

STALEMATE

Scathan disapproves of Beyonder and its over.

Beyonder disapproves Scathan`s approve and this happens

Gallery

Beyonder stomps this hyped celestial.

Beyonder blinks

Dunno Scathan is above LT on feats.

@clownprinceofcrime1995: He really isn't. Scathan beat Protege and that had to have been from an outside Amp from TOAA based on her copying the LT.

PR Beyonder was TOAA for marvels universe before. Look stuff up for it. Viners voted on it and Scathan Loses to LT in a poll. Who by feats is actually way below PR Beyonder.