Scarlet Witch vs Zatanna

Zatanna FTW.

She's been trained by Fate at some points, knows numerous spells to mind-rape, put people under mental lock down, is highly versatile and has shown to be able to stand with the best of the JLA. She may not be doctor Fate but she is a truly powerful sorceress. Wanda, while not a slouch is not that great as far as Marvel sorcerers go.

" Zatanna FTW. "

" Zatanna FTW. "

" Zatanna FTW. "

" She's been trained by Fate at some points, knows numerous spells to mind-rape, put people under mental lock down, is highly versatile and has shown to be able to stand with the best of the JLA. She may not be doctor Fate but she is a truly powerful sorceress. Wanda, while not a slouch is not that great as far as Marvel sorcerers go. "

" @Crom-Cruach said:

" Zatanna FTW. "

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" @Crom-Cruach said:

" Zatanna FTW. "

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are both in full power? 
 
if they are, then Scarlet Witch blinks and Zatanna is erased from existence..

Zatanna ...
people can say what they want about Scarlet Witch, but at the end of the day ....
1) Scarlet Witch can't control her powers,  not as quickly as Zatanna can cast a spell anyway.
2) we've not seen enough of SW to judge what 'exactly' she can do with her reality manipulation.

maybe redhead could beat zatanna 
oh wait......................she can't

 
Thats like me deciding one day to argue Superman Primes feats are Superboy Primes feats, but I wouldn't do it because I realise the difference.
 

" Zatanna FTW. "

......... Scarlet Witch

 ignore comment, fixing threads

" @Cherry Bomb: the Scarlet Witch's lack of control with her powers is both her greatest advantage and weakness.. Wanda has performed feats Zatanna can only dream of.. if the time come that Zatana can re-write reality and destroy and re-create the Ominverse in a blink of an eye, then i might reconsider.. 

" @Cherry Bomb:  true.. but if we would consider them at their fullest, then we would assume both are in their most powerful incarnations but with morals applied.. and morals doesn't change the fact that Wanda is light year ahead Z in the powers department.. 
 
and contrary to popular beliefs, Wanda doesn't need to speak for her to cast her hex.. she only needs to think and that thought would become reality.. like i said before, she could erase Z from existence in a blink of an eye and faster than a stray thought.. 
 
and yes, SW has several "feats" to show.. and each of them is far beyond what Z can do..  

Altered reality itself beyond recognition

Plucked Dormammu from the his own realm (while she was sleeping) just to stop the advances of Doctor Strange

Summoned 16 million souls from the realm of Death at a whim

Endowed Genis Vell with so much power that he begins to blink the universe itself in and out

The Shadow King was able to return to reality

The rebirth of Onslaught

The resurrection of Mad Jim Jaspers

The depowerment of over 99% of the Mutant Population

The unleash of the catastrophic Chaos Wave

The destruction and re-creation of the entire Omniverse

"

" @lord_oraculous016 said:

" @Cherry Bomb:  true.. but if we would consider them at their fullest, then we would assume both are in their most powerful incarnations but with morals applied.. and morals doesn't change the fact that Wanda is light year ahead Z in the powers department.. 
 
and contrary to popular beliefs, Wanda doesn't need to speak for her to cast her hex.. she only needs to think and that thought would become reality.. like i said before, she could erase Z from existence in a blink of an eye and faster than a stray thought.. 
 
and yes, SW has several "feats" to show.. and each of them is far beyond what Z can do..  

Altered reality itself beyond recognition

Plucked Dormammu from the his own realm (while she was sleeping) just to stop the advances of Doctor Strange

Summoned 16 million souls from the realm of Death at a whim

Endowed Genis Vell with so much power that he begins to blink the universe itself in and out

The Shadow King was able to return to reality

The rebirth of Onslaught

The resurrection of Mad Jim Jaspers

The depowerment of over 99% of the Mutant Population

The unleash of the catastrophic Chaos Wave

The destruction and re-creation of the entire Omniverse

"

The Chaos Wave did two out of these 3, and she did the other one while having a nervous breakdown.  Zatanna probably couldn't match Wanda's raw power but she has too much versatility and can shut down Wanda's brain before she can make a move. "

" @FinalStar86 said:

" @lord_oraculous016 said:

" @Cherry Bomb:  true.. but if we would consider them at their fullest, then we would assume both are in their most powerful incarnations but with morals applied.. and morals doesn't change the fact that Wanda is light year ahead Z in the powers department.. 
 
and contrary to popular beliefs, Wanda doesn't need to speak for her to cast her hex.. she only needs to think and that thought would become reality.. like i said before, she could erase Z from existence in a blink of an eye and faster than a stray thought.. 
 
and yes, SW has several "feats" to show.. and each of them is far beyond what Z can do..  

Altered reality itself beyond recognition

Plucked Dormammu from the his own realm (while she was sleeping) just to stop the advances of Doctor Strange

Summoned 16 million souls from the realm of Death at a whim

Endowed Genis Vell with so much power that he begins to blink the universe itself in and out

The Shadow King was able to return to reality

The rebirth of Onslaught

The resurrection of Mad Jim Jaspers

The depowerment of over 99% of the Mutant Population

The unleash of the catastrophic Chaos Wave

The destruction and re-creation of the entire Omniverse

"

The Chaos Wave did two out of these 3, and she did the other one while having a nervous breakdown.  Zatanna probably couldn't match Wanda's raw power but she has too much versatility and can shut down Wanda's brain before she can make a move. "

Zatanna needs physical contact to use her mind altering abilities. "

" @Charmix said:

" @FinalStar86 said:

" @lord_oraculous016 said:

" @Cherry Bomb:  true.. but if we would consider them at their fullest, then we would assume both are in their most powerful incarnations but with morals applied.. and morals doesn't change the fact that Wanda is light year ahead Z in the powers department.. 
 
and contrary to popular beliefs, Wanda doesn't need to speak for her to cast her hex.. she only needs to think and that thought would become reality.. like i said before, she could erase Z from existence in a blink of an eye and faster than a stray thought.. 
 
and yes, SW has several "feats" to show.. and each of them is far beyond what Z can do..  

Altered reality itself beyond recognition

Plucked Dormammu from the his own realm (while she was sleeping) just to stop the advances of Doctor Strange

Summoned 16 million souls from the realm of Death at a whim

Endowed Genis Vell with so much power that he begins to blink the universe itself in and out

The Shadow King was able to return to reality

The rebirth of Onslaught

The resurrection of Mad Jim Jaspers

The depowerment of over 99% of the Mutant Population

The unleash of the catastrophic Chaos Wave

The destruction and re-creation of the entire Omniverse

"

The Chaos Wave did two out of these 3, and she did the other one while having a nervous breakdown.  Zatanna probably couldn't match Wanda's raw power but she has too much versatility and can shut down Wanda's brain before she can make a move. "

Zatanna needs physical contact to use her mind altering abilities. "

No she doesn't. For example, when she did it to Wizzard. "

Zatanna, after a decent fight.

I'm going with the witch.

I think we all know Wanda's greatest feats, so what does Zatanna have to compete because I have read nothing to suggest that Z has the power to stand against Wanda.

" @lord_oraculous016 said:

" @Cherry Bomb: the Scarlet Witch's lack of control with her powers is both her greatest advantage and weakness.. Wanda has performed feats Zatanna can only dream of.. if the time come that Zatana can re-write reality and destroy and re-create the Ominverse in a blink of an eye, then i might reconsider.. 

Wanda can't re create the omniverse either. "

" @lord_oraculous016 said:

" @Cherry Bomb:  true.. but if we would consider them at their fullest, then we would assume both are in their most powerful incarnations but with morals applied.. and morals doesn't change the fact that Wanda is light year ahead Z in the powers department.. 
 
and contrary to popular beliefs, Wanda doesn't need to speak for her to cast her hex.. she only needs to think and that thought would become reality.. like i said before, she could erase Z from existence in a blink of an eye and faster than a stray thought.. 
 
and yes, SW has several "feats" to show.. and each of them is far beyond what Z can do..  

Altered reality itself beyond recognition Plucked Dormammu from the his own realm (while she was sleeping) just to stop the advances of Doctor Strange Summoned 16 million souls from the realm of Death at a whim Endowed Genis Vell with so much power that he begins to blink the universe itself in and out The Shadow King was able to return to reality The rebirth of Onslaught The resurrection of Mad Jim JaspersThe depowerment of over 99% of the Mutant Population The unleash of the catastrophic Chaos Wave The destruction and re-creation of the entire Omniverse
"

The Chaos Wave did two out of these 3, and she did the other one while having a nervous breakdown.  Zatanna probably couldn't match Wanda's raw power but she has too much versatility and can shut down Wanda's brain before she can make a move. "

wanda's power are like an unpredictable version of white crown phoenix. where as white crown does with thought, wanda's is more like throwing dice. but in any circumstance zantanna has not the raw power to out wit wanda. though she is more controlled with her powers the best she could do is defend herself and try to assassinate wanda when wanda is unaware. because... if the dice is rolled right, zantanna will no longer exist.

" @FinalStar86 said:

" @lord_oraculous016 said:

" @Cherry Bomb: the Scarlet Witch's lack of control with her powers is both her greatest advantage and weakness.. Wanda has performed feats Zatanna can only dream of.. if the time come that Zatana can re-write reality and destroy and re-create the Ominverse in a blink of an eye, then i might reconsider.. 

Wanda can't re create the omniverse either. "

i think i have explained this part during most of our debate before.. there are panel evidences and actual feats to back up this fact..  
 

" @lord_oraculous016 said:

" @Cherry Bomb:  true.. but if we would consider them at their fullest, then we would assume both are in their most powerful incarnations but with morals applied.. and morals doesn't change the fact that Wanda is light year ahead Z in the powers department.. 
 
and contrary to popular beliefs, Wanda doesn't need to speak for her to cast her hex.. she only needs to think and that thought would become reality.. like i said before, she could erase Z from existence in a blink of an eye and faster than a stray thought.. 
 
and yes, SW has several "feats" to show.. and each of them is far beyond what Z can do..  

Altered reality itself beyond recognition Plucked Dormammu from the his own realm (while she was sleeping) just to stop the advances of Doctor Strange Summoned 16 million souls from the realm of Death at a whim Endowed Genis Vell with so much power that he begins to blink the universe itself in and out The Shadow King was able to return to reality The rebirth of Onslaught The resurrection of Mad Jim JaspersThe depowerment of over 99% of the Mutant Population The unleash of the catastrophic Chaos Wave The destruction and re-creation of the entire Omniverse
"

The Chaos Wave did two out of these 3, and she did the other one while having a nervous breakdown.  Zatanna probably couldn't match Wanda's raw power but she has too much versatility and can shut down Wanda's brain before she can make a move. "

it was been proven that even the combined efforts of the Sorcerer Supreme with the aid of the Eye of Agamotto and the most powerful psychic mind cannot hold Wanda's powers for long.. i do admit Z has more versatility.. but Wanda can that do against someone who can erase from existence in a blink of an eye? plus i have already said that Wanda's nervous breakdown has nothing to do with her power to alter reality.. whether she id or did not have a nervous breakdown, she still has the power to warp reality at will..  "

" @Charmix: She isn't altering their her mind, she is literally melting the organic part of Wanda's brain "

 wanda's power are like an unpredictable version of white crown phoenix. where as white crown does with thought, wanda's is more like throwing dice. but in any circumstance zantanna has not the raw power to out wit wanda. though she is more controlled with her powers the best she could do is defend herself and try to assassinate wanda when wanda is unaware. because... if the dice is rolled right, zantanna will no longer exist.    

"  wanda's power are like an unpredictable version of white crown phoenix. "

LOL

Not really, out of all the scans you showed, only one of them even remotely stated her doing something beyond one universe.       

Gallery

When has Wanda ever erased someone in the blink of an eye?  Her nervous breakdown had a lot to do with what she did to the mutant race, she never did anything remotely close to that pre HOM.     

" zatanna will win she has more experiene and more powerful.. "

Wanda wins, she can erase Zatanna before she can utter a word, Zatanna has failed to utter words in the past, such as when Death Stroke attacked her before she can use her freeze spell.

In that instance with Beast, that could of been a result of the Chaos Wave tearing apart the omniverse and reshaping everything, and not Wanda's own power.     

Doesn't matter, she this while having a nervous breakdown.     

" @FinalStar86: ... 
 

In that instance with Beast, that could of been a result of the Chaos Wave tearing apart the omniverse and reshaping everything, and not Wanda's own power.     

unfortunately not.. Wanda specifically said "NO MORE MUTANTS".. that spell cascade throughout creation unto different realities.. as you said so before, the Chaos Wave resulted when Wanda repeatedly altered reality causing a tear in the fabric of time and space leading to the unleash of the Chaos Wave.. the Chaos Wave was unleashed right after Wanda altered reality for the last time when she uttered her last three words.. so by virtue of logic, her spell of "No MORE MUTANTS" came into effectivity when even before the release of the Chaos Wave.. the decimation of the entire mutant race is associated with Wanda Maximoff, that is a fact.. 
 

Doesn't matter, she this while having a nervous breakdown.     

you are saying this as if Wanda needs to be in a constant nervous breakdown to possess such power..  remember, she was calm and sane when she created the HOM.. her powers does not lie of her mental state, but rather her mental state lies in the power she holds within..  "

I think you have it mixed up, the Chaos Wave was what tore the fabric of time and space apart, this was confirmed in Die by the Sword when Mad Jim Jaspers was brought back to life, unless your telling me that reality was torn apart by Wanda, then torn apart again, then put back into place?  I don't think so, reality was torn apart once and that was because of the Chaos Wave, in fact I'm starting to believe that the creation of HOM was because of the Chaos Wave also, never because of Wanda's own power.     

I have scans of how her father describes her as being extremely powerful ;P

" Wanda wins, she can erase Zatanna before she can utter a word, Zatanna has failed to utter words in the past, such as when Death Stroke attacked her before she can use her freeze spell. "

scarlett witch  curb stomps  the  bad hatter

Zatanna easily.