Scarlet Witch(HOM) vs Perpetua

VS

thoughts?

Perpetua from what I seen baby shakes Wanda.

@kasya_carey: That sounds humiliating

Didn't I hear something about the energies she wielded was only allowed(by over mind) when she was fulfilling her functions. And is not something she has now?

Funny cause I brought this up before actually

Perpetua puts Wanda in a bag.

Perpetua easily

Likely not Wanda cuz she's not very good in character

What the hell is with the Wanda lowball as of recent

Is this chick even multiversal?

Wanda is omniversal no arguments or bullshit speculation is necessary, it was confirmed

@emmafrostxmen: What will Wanda do?

@emmafrostxmen: omniversal ?

@waitomegastorm: blink

@kasya_carey: yes mad Jim Jasper’s said her spell affected the omniverse

Wanda blinks herself out of existence

that doesn't mean anything the chaos wave is not her doing. She made a hole in space and time which caused it. Also marvel literally use multiverse and omniverse as the same. They have been doing it for years

@emmafrostxmen: I hope you know this woman created 3 multiversal beings

@kasya_carey: omniverse >>>>>> Multiverse

Omniverse is every universe / multiverse

Wanda Stomps in a mismatch

@kasya_carey: it actually does. This is HOM Wanda and therefore she has access to the spells she had during that arc that affected the omniverse. It showed on panel her spell tearing through the omniverse. It’s confirmed why do people insist on speculation. The writer said “omniverse” unless you can find several examples of marvel saying omniverse is interchangeable with multiverse you are factually wrong, but like everyone on this site you will continue to argue with facts

and yet marvel treats multiverse and omniverse the same. You're saying wanda stomps but the gag is Wanda gets stomped

you even see @soratoumiga not here to comment

I find it funny that Batman is running faster than Wonder Woman

@kasya_carey: Whats up with you and sorato ?

I can easily point out that they call Roma and Merlyn "omniversal or multiversal guardian" Do you know Perpetua? She's out of wanda paygrade. Wanda spell was multiversal at beast and that's just range because she only affected mutants and the number is unquantifiable. They made up less the population on Earth so I imagine everyone else out there

I don't think even Soratoumiga believes that Wanda is Omniverse level

Sora thinks Wanda is MFTL+, Herald level durability without shields, with shields multiversal. Basically believe no one can stop her

Lol Perpetua is definitely omniverse I'll post scan after I done with my shift

@owenzane: might be above that

@kasya_carey: ooo

@emmafrostxmen: Omniverse and Multiverse are used interchangeably in Marvel, you'd know this if you actually read literally ANY cosmic-related comics as of late. Especially the Ultimates, which covers this perfectly.

OT: Perpetua wins quite easily.

First thing first HOM Wanda has been retconned out of existence, it doesn't exist

secondly she was retconned to being only global level

Scarlet Witch and Hope Summers dispersed the Phoenix Force which was only global level

the jasper mentioned omniversal feat and strange/beast mentioned multiversal feat (both were actually retcon feats themselves) from Endangered Species and Die By The Sword, were both retconned again out of existence.

the main House of M event had Wanda depower millions of mutants, that was her greatest feat period. It was mentioned again in AvX as well

again mentioned Wanda only cured the world uncanny x-force

mentioned again in exiles, wanda only changed earth 616

Consider the plethora of evidences and the fact that Wanda couldn't depower the likes of toad, It's pretty safe to say her warp was planetary

Perpetua however is bonafide omniversal by definition

no beings were more feared in the greater omniverse

She created a being called world forger, who later created 2 multiverses along with hypertime

Rebirth Wonder Woman is either a weak jobber or a cosmical threat based on which series provided the last issue, almost no middle ground so far.

@kasya_carey: Or maybe because I haven't seen it? Why are you so obsessed with me?

@owenzane: Half of stuff you said is incorrect. Nothing you mentioned was retconned. The spell affected the Omniverse which you can't change by saying it was "retconned out of existence". Lol, global threat? lmao

Global level phoenix force? Really nigga?

@owenzane: Completely and utterly incorrect. There is only 1 single Phoenix entity in the entire marvel multiverse (and it splits into fragments or goes to different universe). It is the entirety of life through the multiverse of marvel. Therefore her spell only needed to affect Phoenix. And furthermore the mutant spell works on an omniversal level because the spell went threw every universe searching for the x gene, again it didn’t have to do that for Phoenix because there is only 1 Phoenix in the multiverse.

Also that’s AVX Wanda which is not the same thing as HOM Wanda, in the book they even say she isn’t at HOM level anymore

@rampagethefirst: find me an instance of a writer clarifying the statement

Until then Wanda blink her out of the omniverse

@kasya_carey: The spell was shown to search every universe it went to on panel (via Doctor Strange) looking for mutants to affect. They have even stated the wave swept the omniverse which makes sense. The spell was actively searching for mutants to affect and the spell had ran through the entire Omniverse. Unless you can find a writer saying the definition of omniverse isn’t what it actually is in marvel then Wanda Stomps in a mismatch

We are at the point when people try to debate braindead terms like ''omniversal'' that basically holds no meaning. It's just a synonym for everything, a.k.a omniverse.

Omniverse hmmm

yes....read the scan......., nigga.

I see you didnt say wanda stomps

You do know mutants numbers are unquantifiable right? She only affected MUTANTS she did not affect regular humans, aliens, other species and etc. It's NFL to say her power extended that far. Last time I checked the mutant population was <<<<<<<<<< the humans so like I said I can imagine everywhere else. Also someone gave you an example that marvel uses the world as omniverse and multiverse as a synonym. Like I said it's NFL to say Wanda had the range for anything else. also Wanda get's stomped in this is a mismatch on her. Even then wanda didn't even take out all the mutants on earth

Perpetua would solo all of mutants in marvel with a twitch of her nose, completely different ballpark

Perpetua curbstomps.

@kasya_carey: The spell searched every universe in the multiverse for “mutants”. Therefore whether it affected that many is irrelevant, her range is calculated as omniversal as stated on panel, but go ahead keep arguing with the on panel facts

mutants that's all literally omniverse means multiverse in marvel so

Sure.