Scarlet Witch & Wiccan vs Jean Grey & Rachel Grey

round 1 - morals on

round 2 - morals off

Team 1 Stomp all rounds

Wiccan has tp resistance?

Jean and Rachel tp them

Jean Solos

Also that’s my favorite picture of Jean she looks so badass

He has not since Emma frost did this to him

Jean and Rachel

@cruelrain said:

@cruelrain said:

Wiccan has tp resistance?

Jean and Rachel tp them

He has not since Emma frost did this to him

I mean, he ain’t wrong.

With TP on it's kinda a joke. Psi-Blast from Rachel would fry them.....she can solo.

WITHOUT TP?

Morals on- Would be a b%$&! of a fight.

Rachel and Jean are fast enough to stop Scarlet Witch before she attacks. But if she manages to defend herself then her and Wiccan will put the Greys on the defensive.

Moral Off-

Would be a "Who shot first?" situation. I lean Greys but if even one of the Witch's survives it's gonna be brutal.

I say team 2 for both rounds team one are extremely susceptible to telepathy

Wanda could reverse but I remind Emma oneshotting her. But I don't know the context

Team 2: Wiccan had no defense against TP historically and has honestly been depicted as pretty worthless since that time. Wanda could maybe take one of these out before they do the same to her, but probably not both. Not to mention even with TP resistance these two together would probably crack it. Two telepaths of this level are the kind of thing we've seen hold cosmic entities for a bit in marvel.

@kasya_carey: If I remember that from Childrens Crusade correctly. She did that right after Wanda lost her HoM powers with a surprise attack when Wanda had just teleported back to Avengers Mansion. It should also be noted that Wanda had done the same to her(and the entire core group of x-men and Avengers) just shortly beforehand.

@stahlflamme: Moments before that, Wanda one shotted everyone there X-Men and Avengers including Emma Frost

Lol Look I like Wanda as much as the next person *cough* not at all *cough* but let's not pretend Wanda some how last half a second against a telepath of any magnitude

Telepathy should help Jean and Rachel here.

team 1 in major stomp

Team 2 get overwhelmed with telepathy

@cruelrain: Where did you get that information? Literally out of the post you are responding to, I hope. Cause it's in there.

@koays: She took on a Phoenix boosted Emma so apparently she does...

@stahlflamme: Did she TP her?

From the comic i guess, she shut down everyone Avengers and X-Men to stop them from fighting including the likes of Emma, Magneto and Iron Man

Gallery

This was before she lost her powers and Emma used tp on her from behind

@cruelrain: Are you pulling my leg?

Here is our conversation up until now:

Me to someone else: Emma surprise attacked her after Wanda earlier took down the Avengers and X-Men.

You to me: Before that Wanda took down the Avengers and X-Men!!!11!

Me: Gee, really? How did you figure that out, because I wrote that in the post you replied to.

You: It's in thuuu comiiiic?!?! Now let me add information you also already wrote in your original post.

R1. Team 1. Wiccan was manipulated in children's crusade and Wanda was was hit with a surprise attack but everyone here has grown stronger. Wanda has beat Jean on every occasion and I don't really see it being any different here. Wiccan also was able to resist possession by taking back control of his body. I don't know if a psi bolt would do it as Wanda is just as quick on the draw as anyone can be. They are powerful telepaths but I see Wanda and Wiccan being able to counter attack since I don't know if a psi bolt would be their go to or even if it would work for long.

Round 2 is more difficult as bloodlusted telepaths are almost impossible to stop but then again so are powerful mages on the caliber of Scarlet and Wiccan

bump

Nope

@koays: ??

@marvelfan1992: Jobber Witch loses again

R1 goes to team two - TP

but R2, goes to team 1, demiurge Wiccan

Team Wanda both rounds.

And how exactly is Wanda going to defend against a combined TP attack from Jean & Rachel...?

@geekryan: By passing out and spasmming before losing consciousness.....they'll never see it coming

team jean

With TP team 2 stomps

without TP team 1 wins mid diff

Two Magical beings, versus two humans being used by an entity. From my perspective I’m going to say team 1 wins because they can put heir magic together like hope and Wanda did and cast a powerful hex spell, the Phoenix hosts can most likely do the same but since chaos magic can harm it It would just be more greatly amplified with the Demiurges magic.

The Greys

Team 2 with TPs.

Team 1 without TPs.

Jean solos with tp, Rachel solos with tp.