Scarlet Witch and Vision (MCU) vs Doomsday (DCEU)

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Location: The middle of an evacuated Metropolis.

Distance: 70 metres.

Win condition: Death.

Behaviour: In character for both.

Bonus Round: Scarlet Witch and Vision (MCU) vs Indominus rex (Jurassic World).

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#2 KrisBishop  Moderator

Don't know if TP works on DD, but Wanda could reality-warp or Vision can phase kill. They should win.

Bonus round is a mismatch in favour of WandaVision.

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Current Wanda and Vision lose badly. I don't think either of them can react to DDs heat vision. If Wanda decides to restrain him with TK, DD would make an explosion and take her out. She can't attack and defend at the same time.

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Wanda and vision stomp. Vision could just phase into him and kill him. Wanda could warp reality around him or use tp. Together they stomp.

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Wanda can solo unless she gets bullrushed

but duo should win because of hax

duo murderstomps bonus round

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Wanda and Vision utterly stomp. Vision is enough to distract Doomsday while giving Wanda time to tear him apart from a distance.

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#7  Edited By KingLouie

Vision isn’t needed here. Don’t know why Wanda would need TP to solo here. Is Doomsday even capable of blitzing lol?

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Vision isn’t needed here. Don’t know why Wanda would need TP to solo here. Is Doomsday even capable of blitzing lol?

Yes lol. He has Superman's heat vision and he can keep up with both Superman and Wonder woman.

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Vision is a non factor outside of serving as support/distraction for Wanda.

If Wanda doesn't get blitzed I guess she could win via Chaos magic tomfoolery

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#10  Edited By macattack1

@greythejiren: Doomsdays speed blitz and heat vision was evaded three times in a row by Batman lol. He isn’t as fast as Vision and certainly isn’t speed blitzing Vision or Wanda.

OT: team win without much difficulty, bricks like Doomsday are bad matchups for both Wanda and Vision

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Doomsdays speed blitz and heat vision was evaded three times in a row by Batman lol. He isn’t as fast as Vision and certainly isn’t speed blitzing Vision or Wanda.

OT: team win without much difficulty, bricks like Doomsday are bad matchups for both Wanda and Vision

Why are you brining outliers and pis? You want me to bring proof that Wanda is physically only a human being? You want me to bring that speed of sound statement for Vision?

You are willing to put heat vision below batman just so the mcu character in this fight can win?

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@greythejiren: it’s only an outlier or PIS if the character has tonnes of feats on a different level. Doomsday has no impressive speed feats. He could react to superman (whose combat speed wasn’t that impressive before Justice League), and besides that got hit a bunch of times by both superman and Wonder Woman. He never dodged any bullets or missiles despite them causing him clear discomfort. Got evaded by Batman on the ground. Couldn’t tag the batwing flying around him. Failed to react to several bullrushes from superman and Wonder Woman. His heat vision was blocked or evaded every single time by everyone in the fight. He’s really not that fast. Vision can move as blur speed and has MHS+ reactions by phasing through mind stone beams in a single frame. And also hypersonic flight. Vision is faster than Doomsday, and it’s not even particularly close.

Phase kill gg. And Doomsday can’t tag him. Plus Wanda can just rip him apart with TK or mind rape him with TP. It’s obvious that this MCU duo win this fight, and it’s not particularly close.

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@greythejiren: it’s only an outlier or PIS if the character has tonnes of feats on a different level. Doomsday has no impressive speed feats. He could react to superman (whose combat speed wasn’t that impressive before Justice League), and besides that got hit a bunch of times by both superman and Wonder Woman. He never dodged any bullets or missiles despite them causing him clear discomfort. Got evaded by Batman on the ground. Couldn’t tag the batwing flying around him. Failed to react to several bullrushes from superman and Wonder Woman. His heat vision was blocked or evaded every single time by everyone in the fight. He’s really not that fast. Vision can move as blur speed and has MHS+ reactions by phasing through mind stone beams in a single frame. And also hypersonic flight. Vision is faster than Doomsday, and it’s not even particularly close.

Phase kill gg. And Doomsday can’t tag him. Plus Wanda can just rip him apart with TK or mind rape him with TP. Wanda being human level is irrelevant because he would never get a hit on her, and Doomsday has never moved at the speed of sound anyway so even using that statement to limit Vision he is still faster. It’s obvious that this MCU duo win this fight, and it’s not particularly close.

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Doomsday kills them

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@macattack1:

it’s only an outlier or PIS if the character has tonnes of feats on a different level. Doomsday has no impressive speed feats. He could react to superman (whose combat speed wasn’t that impressive before Justice League), and besides that got hit a bunch of times by both superman and Wonder Woman. He never dodged any bullets or missiles despite them causing him clear discomfort.

WW is casually a lightning timer and both superman and dd were on her level of speed. As for bullets and missiles, he didn't bother.

Got evaded by Batman on the ground. Couldn’t tag the batwing flying around him. Failed to react to several bullrushes from superman and Wonder Woman. His heat vision was blocked or evaded every single time by everyone in the fight.

The batman stuff is an outlier, if WW and superman dodged his beams its because they are fast.

He’s really not that fast. Vision can move as blur speed and has MHS+ reactions by phasing through mind stone beams in a single frame. And also hypersonic flight. Vision is faster than Doomsday, and it’s not even particularly close.

Vision doesn't have mhs+ reaction, there's no feat for him like that, if there's then post it. DDs heat vision is so fast it escaped the earth and flew into space. WW and Superman reacted to it. Again, he scales to them.

Phase kill gg. And Doomsday can’t tag him. Plus Wanda can just rip him apart with TK or mind rape him with TP. Wanda being human level is irrelevant because he would never get a hit on her, and Doomsday has never moved at the speed of sound anyway so even using that statement to limit Vision he is still faster. It’s obvious that this MCU duo win this fight, and it’s not particularly close.

Phasing can't kill DD, prove if it can. If she tries her TK on him, he will created an explosion and she dies since her shields will be off during the offence. She isn't fast enough to try TP either.

You just went ahead and downplayed DD to below speed of sound, I am not wasting my time on obviously biased person. What a joke.

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@greythejiren: what a joke. So every time Doomsday does something relative to a ‘fast’ character like superman or Wonder Woman it’s an incredible feat, but whenever he fails to tag Batman, shoot down the batwing, land a hit on wonder woman without her blocking it or react to superman’s bull rush it’s just an outlier and you discount it. This is basically the definition of bias, you are choosing a few feats that fit your narrative and throwing away the majority of showings of Doomsday not being very fast.

Vision does have MHS+ reactions. I don’t have a gig cos I’m on my phone atm (I’m sure you could find in in a respect threat or something though), but there’s a scene in Wandavision where vision and white vision are shooting beams at each other and phasing through them. This in of itself is impressive, but If you go frame by frame you see that in a single frame the beam travels the entire radius of the Hex (several kilometres in less than 1/24th of a second), and in that same frame Vision is phased through it, whereas he wasn’t phased in the previous frame. So he reacted to an phased through something at near point blank range which can travel several kilometres in less than 1/24th of a second. That’s easily MHS. So yeh, his reactions are impressive, and way above Doomsday.

There’s also a scene where vision flys away and it cuts to the radar scan of the Hex where SWORD are tracking vision, and he blips off the radar for a fraction of a second and then he reappears on the other side of the Hex. Aka he flew several kilometres in a fraction of a second, faster than the tracker could keep up with for a moment. So his movement speed is also way above Supersonic.

Batman also reacted to Doomsdays heat vision. And before you say it’s an outlier, firstly he did it twice, and secondly he also did it against Superman’s heat vision in Justice league. Maybe reacting to heat vision isn’t that impressive. Plus wonder woman blocked all of them, so again, Doomsday tagged no one with his heat vision throughout the fight other than the lock he won against superman (but that’s just power not speed).

Lmao I don’t have to prove that Phase killing would work, that’s the opposite of how it works. Vision has the capability of phasing into Doomsday, you have to prove that Doomsday could survive that. I don’t see why he could. Wanda is fast enough to TK or TP Doomsday, she’s reacted to Tommy (or Billy? Can’t remember which is which lol. The speedster.) and is definitely faster than Batman.

I find it so ironic that you are calling me the bias one, when you’re just highballing Doomsday and ignoring his plethora of lower end feats.

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@macattack1: don't you know DCEU only gets its high end feats and MCU gets the latest end

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Wanda reality warps.

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@thanosii: oh whoops I forgot, sorry.

OT: Batman blitzes them both

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Scarlet Witch solos

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#22  Edited By heiqn

I don't need to remind you Doomsday couldn't tag Batman, Please don't talk like Doomsday can blitz in FTE speed like Superman.

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Vision or Wanda could solo. Reality warp or phase. This is a no brainer.

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@heiqn said:

I don't need to remind you Doomsday couldn't tag Batman, Please don't talk like Doomsday can blitz in FTE speed like Superman.

doomsday blitzes and 2 shots

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The bonus round is just weird because team wreks.

Current Scarlet Witch should probably win but she's inconsistent.

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Doomsday.

Outside of the Hex, Wanda can only do TK / TP, which will not stop Doomsday for long. Vision can phase through him, but Doomsday will adapt to it. Without kryptonite, they are losing.

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@heiqn said:

Scarlet Witch solos

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@vex_haid said:

@heiqn said:

I don't need to remind you Doomsday couldn't tag Batman, Please don't talk like Doomsday can blitz in FTE speed like Superman.

doomsday blitzes and 2 shots

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@heiqn: batman used a gear to escape, to SW or vision have gears?

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@vex_haid said:

@heiqn: batman used a gear to escape, to SW or vision have gears?

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@heiqn: gears>>>>>>>>>tp

doomsday blitzes and stomps every non god tier (god tiers like celestials,arishem,dormammu,thanos) in the verse

everyone else is simply fodder

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#34  Edited By heiqn
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@heiqn: gears>>>>>>>>>tp

doomsday blitzes and stomps every non god tier (god tiers like celestials,arishem,dormammu,thanos) in the verse

everyone else is simply fodder

Lol ok keep coping

OT = SW solos DD can't tag Batman

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@heiqn said:

@vex_haid said:

@heiqn: gears>>>>>>>>>tp

doomsday blitzes and stomps every non god tier (god tiers like celestials,arishem,dormammu,thanos) in the verse

everyone else is simply fodder

Lol ok keep coping

OT = SW solos DD can't tag Batman

i mean, no one in the verse who isn't a god tier has feats to beat doomsday sooo

batman is smarter then SW btws, he was able to dodge him because hes smart and knew to use a rope instead of running

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Either Scarlet witch or Vision solos

Both are fast enough to react to him, especially with his size

Wanda can TP or TK him

Vision just phases and kills him

Lol at DD blitzing anyone