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#1 Posted by KeyChain (661 posts) - - Show Bio

I've seen a lot of battles between these two on other social media outlets and there's always that one fanboy who says something like "Naruto ain't shit without Kurama!"

So when you take away the powers both where given (Kurama and the Eyes) who's stronger?

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#2 Posted by Gilateen (2232 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto

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#3 Posted by ovy7 (1483 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto still has Sage Mode, you know that right?

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#4 Posted by xZone (6427 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm.. I think Sasuke should win

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#5 Edited by iUseMyCajonas (3955 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto stomps even with no sage mode.

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#6 Posted by KeyChain (661 posts) - - Show Bio

@ovy7: yes but he earned that and wasn't "gifted" it like he was Kurama or Sasuke was his Eyes.

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#7 Posted by lgh0stl (1234 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto can outlast Sasuke in this fight, for having huge chakra reserve.

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#8 Posted by ovy7 (1483 posts) - - Show Bio

@keychain said:

@ovy7: yes but he earned that and wasn't "gifted" it like he was Kurama or Sasuke was his Eyes.

I wasn't referring to that. What I meant is that Naruto has a way to buff himself using Sage Mode, while Sasuke doesn't have any way to get out of his base form.

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#9 Edited by KeyChain (661 posts) - - Show Bio

@ovy7: For the sake of the battle Sasuke can use 3 Tome Sharigan.

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#10 Edited by Gaoron (7081 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto has sage mode, way bigger chakra reserves, could still spam large ammounts of clones, rasenshuriken. Naruto claps him.

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#11 Posted by GoldHeretic (356 posts) - - Show Bio

OP says sauce can use three tomoe sharingan so genjutsu gg.

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#12 Posted by KeyChain (661 posts) - - Show Bio

@goldheretic: Sasuke has barely any feats with just 3 Tome, plus Naruto knows how to counter Genjutsu, it's funny how people miss that entire arc with Jariya.

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#13 Posted by CaptFalcon725 (1038 posts) - - Show Bio

If you give them equal amounts of boosts, Naruto edges out Sasuke as long as Naruto is determined to win. That's the mythos of the characters.

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#14 Posted by SuperGoku17 (7220 posts) - - Show Bio

Sasuke

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#15 Posted by ourmanuel (4466 posts) - - Show Bio

Nardo stomps him with sennin modo.

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#16 Posted by B_r023 (4978 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto stomps with Sage mode. Even without it, Sasuke has like 0 feats in base without Sharingan. Base Naruto would also Stomp Base Sasuke.

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#17 Posted by Supermanforever (6909 posts) - - Show Bio

if you remove kurama you shouldnt remove both rinnegan and sharingan for sasuke, because naruto would still have sage mode vs basically no abilties sasuke since all of his powers would come from his eyes and lightning style. Lightning style alone isnt dealing with sage mode naruto.

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#18 Posted by KeyChain (661 posts) - - Show Bio
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#19 Edited by AntitheticalOpinion (187 posts) - - Show Bio

Is this a joke? You basically removed one of Naruto's biggest power ups, then removed Sasuke's ONLY power ups, while Naruto still has sage mode and a lot of his potent arsenal, meanwhile... Sasuke has Lightning release.

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#20 Posted by KeyChain (661 posts) - - Show Bio
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#21 Posted by Supermanforever (6909 posts) - - Show Bio

@keychain said:

@antitheticalopinion: he has more than lightning

he has fire style etc but those are not helping him either. Sage mode is to powerfull. Sasuke would atleast need mangekyo sharingan and the rest of his abilities to compete with sage mode naruto.

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#22 Posted by AntitheticalOpinion (187 posts) - - Show Bio

@keychain: Not enough. He needs at least sharingan to even stand a chance against naruto without kurama. In the pain arc and everything before, Naruto only used kurama for the leagues of chakra it gave him, and some extra things that wont matter here such as tailed beast mode. Sasuke relied heavily on the sharigan throughout most of the anime/manga. Take away Naruto's sage mode and this would be a more fair fight.

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#23 Posted by sladerulez (9905 posts) - - Show Bio

Sasuke is too reliant on his Sharingan. He can't fend off against Naruto's attacks and the Rasenshuriken moves far faster than Sasuke can evade.

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#24 Posted by LambSauce (473 posts) - - Show Bio

I noticed how you didn't disable Sage mode for Naruto...

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#25 Posted by LambSauce (473 posts) - - Show Bio

@sladerulez: Rasenshuriken only moves at low Mach speeds without his power-up.

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#26 Posted by KeyChain (661 posts) - - Show Bio

@lambsauce: Why would? The point of this battle is to see who would win if you remove both powers "Given" to them, Sage Mode was earned.

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#27 Posted by SkySanji (1818 posts) - - Show Bio

"Sennin Modo" gg

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#28 Posted by Earendill (706 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto stomps

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#29 Posted by LambSauce (473 posts) - - Show Bio

@keychain said:

@lambsauce: Why would? The point of this battle is to see who would win if you remove both powers "Given" to them, Sage Mode was earned.

So you just wanted to make a stomp thread then. Kinda pathetic.

Naruto doesn't have Kurama, so he gets genjutsu'd right of the bat. Sasuke stomps.

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#31 Posted by LambSauce (473 posts) - - Show Bio

@skysanji said:

^ Sasuke fanboy spotted.

No. I'm just debating for the one who the OP thinks is going to get stomped.

Also, being a Narutofapper is a harsher virus.

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#32 Posted by SkySanji (1818 posts) - - Show Bio

@keychain said:

@lambsauce: Why would? The point of this battle is to see who would win if you remove both powers "Given" to them, Sage Mode was earned.

So you just wanted to make a stomp thread then. Kinda pathetic.

Naruto doesn't have Kurama, so he gets genjutsu'd right of the bat. Sasuke stomps.

Sasuke fanboy spotted.

Anyway "Sennin Modo" gg

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#33 Posted by LambSauce (473 posts) - - Show Bio

@skysanji said:
@lambsauce said:
@keychain said:

@lambsauce: Why would? The point of this battle is to see who would win if you remove both powers "Given" to them, Sage Mode was earned.

So you just wanted to make a stomp thread then. Kinda pathetic.

Naruto doesn't have Kurama, so he gets genjutsu'd right of the bat. Sasuke stomps.

Sasuke fanboy spotted.

Anyway "Sennin Modo" gg

Stop licking Naruto's dick.

Without Kurama, Naruto's resistance to genjutsu is null and void. And so he gets genjutsu'd.

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#34 Posted by Jechundesung (410 posts) - - Show Bio

Sage Mode Naruto wins.

Danger sensing >

Sensing in general >

Strength >

Senjutsu boosted Ninjutsu >

Clone spam and confusion >

Sasuke doesn't stand a chance.

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#35 Edited by SkySanji (1818 posts) - - Show Bio

@lambsauce said:
@skysanji said:
@lambsauce said:
@keychain said:

@lambsauce: Why would? The point of this battle is to see who would win if you remove both powers "Given" to them, Sage Mode was earned.

So you just wanted to make a stomp thread then. Kinda pathetic.

Naruto doesn't have Kurama, so he gets genjutsu'd right of the bat. Sasuke stomps.

Sasuke fanboy spotted.

Anyway "Sennin Modo" gg

Stop licking Naruto's dick.

Without Kurama, Naruto's resistance to genjutsu is null and void. And so he gets genjutsu'd.

Stop slobbing Sasuke's cock. Naruto stomps as soon as he enters sage mode, I hate it when Sasuke is losing a battle and people cant think of any possible way for him to win so the persons argument is "genjutsu gg" sorry not working this time and won't work any other time a non mangekyo sharingan genjutsu is only working on fodder , seriously stop jerking Sasuke off fanboy he has a beautiful wife already.

Genjutsu works by controlling the opponents chakra in their mind. When in Sage Mode the users chakra isn't regular, it's Sage Chakra. Sage Chakra can only be controlled by a true Sage as we have seen many times (Jiraiya struggling with SM, Naruto learning SM, Pain absorbing Sage Chakra).
Genjutsu only works on Sage when the user of genjutsu is also a Sage and can control Sage Chakra.
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#36 Edited by LambSauce (473 posts) - - Show Bio

@skysanji said:
@lambsauce said:
@skysanji said:
@lambsauce said:
@keychain said:

@lambsauce: Why would? The point of this battle is to see who would win if you remove both powers "Given" to them, Sage Mode was earned.

So you just wanted to make a stomp thread then. Kinda pathetic.

Naruto doesn't have Kurama, so he gets genjutsu'd right of the bat. Sasuke stomps.

Sasuke fanboy spotted.

Anyway "Sennin Modo" gg

Stop licking Naruto's dick.

Without Kurama, Naruto's resistance to genjutsu is null and void. And so he gets genjutsu'd.

Stop slobbing Sasuke's cock. Naruto stomps as soon as he enters sage mode, I hate it when Sasuke us losing a battle and the persons argument is "genjutsu gg" sorry not working this time and won't work any other time , seriously stop jerking Sasuke off fanboy he has a beautiful wife already.

Genjutsu works by controlling the opponents chakra in their mind. When in Sage Mode the users chakra isn't regular, it's Sage Chakra. Sage Chakra can only be controlled by a true Sage as we have seen many times (Jiraiya struggling with SM, Naruto learning SM, Pain absorbing Sage Chakra).
Genjutsu only works on Sage when the user of genjutsu is also a Sage and can control Sage Chakra.

Stop gobbling Naruto's tiny dick SMH. Naruto won't have time to go Sage mode before he gets genjutsu'd. Sasuke almost always goes for the hard-stopper at the start of the fight. Since Naruto doesn't start in sage mode, Naruto gets blitzed since Sasuke's speed in base>>>Naruto's.

Also, according to you, arguing for the underdog = fanboy. What's the point of the thread then if you don't even want others to argue for the other? Stop being such a pathetic Naruto dicksucker.

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#37 Posted by ourmanuel (4466 posts) - - Show Bio

@skysanji: you’re wrong on the sage chakra part and the “beautiful wife” part. I prefer watermelons to an ironing board

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#38 Edited by FaradaySloth (4562 posts) - - Show Bio

The Gary Stu wins

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#39 Edited by SkySanji (1818 posts) - - Show Bio

@lambsauce said:
@skysanji said:
@lambsauce said:
@skysanji said:
@lambsauce said:
@keychain said:

@lambsauce: Why would? The point of this battle is to see who would win if you remove both powers "Given" to them, Sage Mode was earned.

So you just wanted to make a stomp thread then. Kinda pathetic.

Naruto doesn't have Kurama, so he gets genjutsu'd right of the bat. Sasuke stomps.

Sasuke fanboy spotted.

Anyway "Sennin Modo" gg

Stop licking Naruto's dick.

Without Kurama, Naruto's resistance to genjutsu is null and void. And so he gets genjutsu'd.

Stop slobbing Sasuke's cock. Naruto stomps as soon as he enters sage mode, I hate it when Sasuke us losing a battle and the persons argument is "genjutsu gg" sorry not working this time and won't work any other time , seriously stop jerking Sasuke off fanboy he has a beautiful wife already.

Genjutsu works by controlling the opponents chakra in their mind. When in Sage Mode the users chakra isn't regular, it's Sage Chakra. Sage Chakra can only be controlled by a true Sage as we have seen many times (Jiraiya struggling with SM, Naruto learning SM, Pain absorbing Sage Chakra).
Genjutsu only works on Sage when the user of genjutsu is also a Sage and can control Sage Chakra.

Stop gobbling Naruto's tiny dick SMH. Naruto won't have time to go Sage mode before he gets genjutsu'd. Sasuke almost always goes for the hard-stopper at the start of the fight. Since Naruto doesn't start in sage mode, Naruto gets blitzed since Sasuke's speed in base>>>Naruto's.

Also, according to you, arguing for the underdog = fanboy. What's the point of the thread then if you don't even want others to argue for the other? Stop being such a pathetic Naruto dicksucker.

1. Gay as hell for even mentioning Naruto's dick size of course there isn't anything wrong with being gay also now you have to deal with Sakura and Hinata because apparently you are jerking Sasuke off and you now you've somehow seen Naruto's dick? yeah somethings up.

2. Naruto can practically blink into sage mode after the war arc

3. Sasuke Never I repeat Never uses Genjutsu at the start of a fight Ex: Team 7,Orochimaru,Deidara,Itachi,Danzo literally go reread/rewatch all of his fights.

4. Sasuke's speed in base=Naruto's speed in base as seen in the Vote fight shit Sasuke had the rinnegan and sharingan activated at the time as well and base Naruto was keeping up just fine well Sasuke was getting the better of him during the taijutsu portion but again this was a rinnegan sasuke who had his 3 tomoe on one eye as well and this is just base Naruto, Sasuke isn't blitzing Shit.

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#40 Posted by sladerulez (9905 posts) - - Show Bio

@lambsauce: how so? I know that Sage mode is supposed to be a step up from base, but that doesn't mean that a Rasenshuriken from Pain Arc Sage Mode is Superior to Current Base.

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#41 Posted by SkySanji (1818 posts) - - Show Bio

@ourmanuel: you think Sakura's ugly? yeah she's flat at the chest area but she's far from ugly imo but it's your opinion and I respect it.

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#42 Posted by ourmanuel (4466 posts) - - Show Bio

@skysanji: I meant only the flat chested part

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#43 Posted by LambSauce (473 posts) - - Show Bio

@skysanji said:
@lambsauce said:
@skysanji said:
@lambsauce said:
@skysanji said:
@lambsauce said:
@keychain said:

@lambsauce: Why would? The point of this battle is to see who would win if you remove both powers "Given" to them, Sage Mode was earned.

So you just wanted to make a stomp thread then. Kinda pathetic.

Naruto doesn't have Kurama, so he gets genjutsu'd right of the bat. Sasuke stomps.

Sasuke fanboy spotted.

Anyway "Sennin Modo" gg

Stop licking Naruto's dick.

Without Kurama, Naruto's resistance to genjutsu is null and void. And so he gets genjutsu'd.

Stop slobbing Sasuke's cock. Naruto stomps as soon as he enters sage mode, I hate it when Sasuke us losing a battle and the persons argument is "genjutsu gg" sorry not working this time and won't work any other time , seriously stop jerking Sasuke off fanboy he has a beautiful wife already.

Genjutsu works by controlling the opponents chakra in their mind. When in Sage Mode the users chakra isn't regular, it's Sage Chakra. Sage Chakra can only be controlled by a true Sage as we have seen many times (Jiraiya struggling with SM, Naruto learning SM, Pain absorbing Sage Chakra).
Genjutsu only works on Sage when the user of genjutsu is also a Sage and can control Sage Chakra.

Stop gobbling Naruto's tiny dick SMH. Naruto won't have time to go Sage mode before he gets genjutsu'd. Sasuke almost always goes for the hard-stopper at the start of the fight. Since Naruto doesn't start in sage mode, Naruto gets blitzed since Sasuke's speed in base>>>Naruto's.

Also, according to you, arguing for the underdog = fanboy. What's the point of the thread then if you don't even want others to argue for the other? Stop being such a pathetic Naruto dicksucker.

1. Gay as hell for even mentioning Naruto's dick size of course there isn't any wrong with being gay also now you have to deal with Sakura and Hinata because apparently you are jerking Sasuke off and you now you've somehow seen Naruto's dick? yeah somethings up.

2. Naruto can practically blink into sage mode after the war arc

3. Sasuke Never I repeat Never uses Genjutsu at the start of a fight Ex: Team 7,Orochimaru,Deidara,Itachi,Danzo literally go reread/rewatch all of his fights.

4. Sasuke's speed in base=Naruto's speed in base as seen in the Vote fight shit Sasuke had the rinnegan and sharingan activated at the time as well and base Naruto was keeping up just fine well Sasuke was getting the better of him during the taijutsu portion but again this was a rinnegan sasuke who had his 3 tomoe on one eye as well and this is just base Naruto.

Not even worth responding.

2. Post scans of Naruto blinking into sage mode.

3. I concede to the genjutsu part since Sasuke can only cast genjutsu with his sharingan.

4.You're basing off to the anime filler just basically there for some taijutsu fanservice. Refer to the original source: the manga. Anime fillers aren't canon.

Also, I'm done debating since apparently arguing for the underdog = fanboyism. And I don't want to be a fanboy. Just a suggestion, if anyone argues for the underdog, don't call them a fanboy, unless they absolutely reeks of fanboyism. Seriously.

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#44 Posted by LambSauce (473 posts) - - Show Bio

@ourmanuel: She's far from being flat-chested. She looking like a snack as a mom tbh.

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#45 Posted by KeyChain (661 posts) - - Show Bio
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#46 Posted by ourmanuel (4466 posts) - - Show Bio

@lambsauce: nah, that happens to all moms once they get pregnant. HinaTATA is still number one.

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#47 Edited by SkySanji (1818 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Okay

2. I concede to this point since it's only in the anime during the Nue attack on the hidden leaf village

3. Okay

4. Doesn't change the fact that Naruto was fighting a 3 tomoe Sasuke when they were exhausted he was still keeping up with Sasuke who has precog on, so how is base Sasuke faster than base Naruto again if Naruto is keeping up with 3 tomoe Sharingan Sasuke in his base?

Also I don't have a problem with you debating over the underdog it's just that you came off as a fanboy by

1. Asking why Sage mode wasn't disabled for Naruto when Op stated this will be a fight with only powers that were earned which btw Sage mode was earned it felt as if you knew Sasuke was going to lose so you wanted Sage mode disabled

2. Again you wanted Sasuke to win so bad but you couldn't find a way he could win so you said genjutsu so Sasuke stomps, lol what?

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#48 Posted by SkySanji (1818 posts) - - Show Bio

@ourmanuel: what about Ino? If we are talking about who is the most beautiful mom.

1. Ino

2. Hinata

3. Sakura

But if we are talking about females in general this list would change drastically as alot of people would be added

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#49 Posted by ourmanuel (4466 posts) - - Show Bio

@skysanji: you guys are on the wrong thread for this lol

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#50 Posted by SkySanji (1818 posts) - - Show Bio