- In character
- Current Sasuke
- Madara and Hashirama in VOTE versions
Sasuke vs Madara and Hashirama
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@kothoga: Are you trolling or you don't realize Sasuke was without the Six Path Jutsu and the EMS because he was running out of chakra after he used his dimensional travels too much?
Sasuke stomps in a multitude of ways. Him and Naruto left the league of Hashirama and Madara from the instant Hagoromo spoke to them.
Look guys, Sasuke was amped up on chakra from every Tailed Beast when he was at his peak and performed his best feats. What happened when he tried to 1v1 Madara without tailed beasts? He basically got one-shotted. Naruto depowered The Sauce at the end of the manga & took his tailed beasts away. Who exactly has Sasuke beaten on his own that is Madara or Hashirama-level? That is in singles combat aka mono e mono aka 1v1 combat.
@kothoga: he blitzed juubidara who is way faster than both of these guys
fought Kinshiki on equal terms with ONE arm AND his chakra was hella drained, conclusion: Sasuke wins mid diff
@blonde_legend: i honestly don’t think thatll be a prob
@grinningf0x: Yes, more like a nuisance considering that Sasuke is faster, stronger and with better hax and versatility.
@blonde_legend: agreed Sasuke is just on a whole nother level where this almost seems like a spite
Hashirama and Madara take this comfortably. Yes Sasuke is faster than them, but if Sasuke and Kinshiki are similar speeds and Kage lvl ninja in Chojuro etc can follow and read Kinshiki's movements then Hashirama and Mads can too, considering they have SM and EMS. Aside from speed Sasuke has nothing that he is better at then they are. Chakra, Power, Mech strength Sasuke loses. Sasuke can't beat SMSS at all, let alone with Madara there as well. Sasuke's Susano will get destroyed with really no counter. Just don't see how he can beat SMSS. This thing tanked Full Ninetails+PS and that only taken out half the 1000 hands let alone the SMWB+SMWG which hadn't even been scratched. Meaning you would need as much power as 2 Full Ninetails and 2 PS combinations to match the 1000 hands which isn't including the SageMode powered Buddha Statue and the SageMode powered Wooden Golem, (given the fact that Prime Hashi's wooden golem is a match for Mads PS pre SM then Post SM the strength would be massively increased for the golem). Sasuke cannot generate that lvl of strength with just his PS. Then you want to add VOTE Mads power on top of this, Sasuke gets stomped pretty badly .
@thenewguysnm1: Nah it'd be a stomp in verse too. The gap is actually quite wide and Sasuke can't be depicted as an idiot like Kaguya
@kingzod: By feats he should stomp though remember he did not beat Shin and they have better feats then Kinshiki they would give him a decent fight imo.
@doom749: You said he was faster than both of them so why doesnt he just blitz them?
@thenewguysnm1: Sasuke was low on chakra from dimensional hopping, so I don't think that Shin's fight is consistent though.
@joviolma: They still have better feats then Kin Madara PS hard counters Sasukes.
A susanoo 1000 hand buddha would be interesting to see.
@joviolma: They still have better feats then Kin Madara PS hard counters Sasukes.
What is a Kin Madara PS ?
A susanoo 1000 hand buddha would be interesting to see.
Can they do this ?
@joviolma: They still have better feats then Kin Madara PS hard counters Sasukes.
What is a Kin Madara PS ?
A susanoo 1000 hand buddha would be interesting to see.
Can they do this ?
Kin is kinshiki
I'd like to think so
Kin is kinshiki
Is hard to scale Kinshiki based on the fight against the Kages IMO, we don't know how strong the Kages are to compare with the older ones, they can be weaker or stronger, Konohamaru for example improved his rasengan to the point that literally turns the target into glitter and destroy a large area with the wind alone, so we can say that he was stronger than Naruto Pos-Jiraya Training(NS Beginning) but when can't say if he is on the 4 Kages level, and Sasuke was helping the Kages to beat Kinshiki and they are doing a good teamwork and using sealing jutsus to immobilize him.
Kinshiki was keeping up with Rinnegan Sasuke, like I stated before in another thread, Sasuke was stated to rank equal to Naruto so Kinshiki is pretty fast and strong, being defeated by the Kages(which we can't even scale to the other ones that fought Madara with their feats) with perfect teamwork+Sasuke's help is not enough to say that Sasuke or Kinshiki are weak. This or Kinshiki being defeated was only a outlier/low-end.
@thenewguysnm1: They really wouldn't.
Perhaps you don't know how ridiculous the speed gap is.
And adult Sasuke and Naruto have practically performed all their feats while being nerfed
Kin is kinshiki
Is hard to scale Kinshiki based on the fight against the Kages IMO, we don't know how strong the Kages are to compare with the older ones, they can be weaker or stronger, Konohamaru for example improved his rasengan to the point that literally turns the target into glitter and destroy a large area with the wind alone, so we can say that he was stronger than Naruto Pos-Jiraya Training(NS Beginning) but when can't say if he is on the 4 Kages level, and Sasuke was helping the Kages to beat Kinshiki and they are doing a good teamwork and using sealing jutsus to immobilize him.
Kinshiki was keeping up with Rinnegan Sasuke, like I stated before in another thread, Sasuke was stated to rank equal to Naruto so Kinshiki is pretty fast and strong, being defeated by the Kages(which we can't even scale to the other ones that fought Madara with their feats) with perfect teamwork+Sasuke's help is not enough to say that Sasuke or Kinshiki are weak. This or Kinshiki being defeated was only a outlier/low-end.
They are by feats weaker then the 5 kage of the naruto era madara soloed the Kage.Hashi would 2.
Sasuke wins but i think it is a mid diff fight not a stomp(in verse that is by feats he obviously stomps)
How did they have perfect teamwork
If i don't reply it means im sleeping
@thenewguysnm1: In a verse fight even Ino would give Adult Sasuke trouble, LOL. Just like Krillin was keeping up with SSB Goku XD.
I would say that in a verse fight would be pretty cool and Sasuke would win.
In a Comicvineverse fight where we use feats and scale he would stomp their both.
@joviolma: Definitely
Hashirama and Madara take this comfortably. Yes Sasuke is faster than them, but if Sasuke and Kinshiki are similar speeds and Kage lvl ninja in Chojuro etc can follow and read Kinshiki's movements then Hashirama and Mads can too, considering they have SM and EMS. Aside from speed Sasuke has nothing that he is better at then they are. Chakra, Power, Mech strength Sasuke loses. Sasuke can't beat SMSS at all, let alone with Madara there as well. Sasuke's Susano will get destroyed with really no counter. Just don't see how he can beat SMSS. This thing tanked Full Ninetails+PS and that only taken out half the 1000 hands let alone the SMWB+SMWG which hadn't even been scratched. Meaning you would need as much power as 2 Full Ninetails and 2 PS combinations to match the 1000 hands which isn't including the SageMode powered Buddha Statue and the SageMode powered Wooden Golem, (given the fact that Prime Hashi's wooden golem is a match for Mads PS pre SM then Post SM the strength would be massively increased for the golem). Sasuke cannot generate that lvl of strength with just his PS. Then you want to add VOTE Mads power on top of this, Sasuke gets stomped pretty badly .
Hashi and Madara definitely doesn't win this.
First off, all the Sasuke downplay should lay off. Basing his "shit" durability because of a low showing is just flat out illogical. It's just that, a low showing.
The kages keeping up with Kin was obviously an outlier just for the sake of putting up more action for the fans. Don't downplay.
EMS/SM would be shit tier power-ups in front of Sasuke, so don't know why you would bring this up.
Bruh, the hell are you even spouting? Are you actually suggesting that Maddy's PS is stronger than Sasuke's? If so, then I'd suggest you put down whatever you're smoking lmao. The combined force of Maddy's PS and Hashi's Shinsuusenju gets obliterated by a casual slash from Sasuke's Susanoo. Feats suggest so.
Sasuke doesn't have to regenerate when the opposition wont have the slightest chance in hell of hurting him.
Sasuke stomps both pretty trivially.
@joviolma: They still have better feats then Kin Madara PS hard counters Sasukes.
A susanoo 1000 hand buddha would be interesting to see.
Non Six-paths Madara's Susanoo countering Sasuke's Susanoo? What? What feats does Maddy's Susanoo have to suggest it can scratch Sasuke's PS with only multi-mountain potency? When the latters Susanoo slices and dices large meteors with practical ease, meteors which even fragmented shards dwarfs mountain ranges?
Sasuke stomps. Hashirama was being blitzed by Juubito, and Sasuke is quite a bit faster than him now, so he blitzes and oneshots them with taijutsu before either can muster defenses.
@worldofruin6: That was Hashi's wood clone as an edo tensei. Sasuke wasn't speed blitzing Kinshiki whose attacks and speed were being followed by Chojuro, then all the other Kage read Kinshiki's movements and dodge effectively. What about when ems sasuke was following Juubito's movements or when Juubito attacked Tobirama and Hashirama's wood clone and tobirama was able to tag Juubito and place a fairly decent amount of paper bombs on juubito just couldn't block TSO's for obvious reasons, Kage reaction time can follow these movements. SM ontop of that there is no way Sasuke is landing an efficient attack to take out Hashi or Mads.
@worldofruin6: That was Hashi's wood clone as an edo tensei. Sasuke wasn't speed blitzing Kinshiki whose attacks and speed were being followed by Chojuro, then all the other Kage read Kinshiki's movements and dodge effectively. What about when ems sasuke was following Juubito's movements or when Juubito attacked Tobirama and Hashirama's wood clone and tobirama was able to tag Juubito and place a fairly decent amount of paper bombs on juubito just couldn't block TSO's for obvious reasons, Kage reaction time can follow these movements. SM ontop of that there is no way Sasuke is landing an efficient attack to take out Hashi or Mads.
It doesnt really matter if it was a clone. Clones have shown to have bad durability, but speed on par with the original. I'm pretty sure Sasuke was jobbing against Kinshiki the first time considering even a Kinshiki absorbed Momo couldn't handle Naruto and Sasuke. And when Naruto and Sasuke got serious, just their full speed taijutsu created massive hills of rock from the after affect. If Sasuke was serious the first time, there would have been widepread destruction, not just a small amount of damage to the building they fought at. EOS Naruto and Sasuke we're fast enough to compete with Jubidara, and they have only gotten faster since then. Unless you think Jubidara would not blitz these versions of Madara and Hashirama, then they get blitzed by Sasuke.
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