Sasuke vs and Itachi vs Goku and Hit

Stats are equalized

There is no Genjustu

This is prime Itachi before he got sick

Current Sasuke

And current versions for Hit and Goku

You can use manga feats

Who wins and Why

umm

Even with SE, I don't see how team 1 can counter Hit's Time-Skip.

HAKAI

Time skip FTW

Not debating who wins but maybe Amaterasu could work.

@supergoku17: I'm thinking maybe Itachi starts with Tsukuyomi which should stun them for a second which hopefully Sasuke could capitalize on and blitz. I dunno.

Anything can happen like Izanami

How exactly ? I know that Sasuke can still seeing while Time is frozen as Boruto manga showed, but we don't know if he can attack.

@joviolma: Maybe catch him off guard.

This would depend how the battle would start. With SE Sasuke can obviously stab them and kill them both but Hit can win if he start the fight with Time-Skip and later that Intangible Fist.

Yep this battle can go either way

Uh....Sharingan blatantly see's the opponents next move and seeing as Hit only threw at the most a punch or two during a 0.2 second timeframe IIRC (absolutely pitiful for someone supposedly MFTL+) Sasuke can do what Goku did to a much better degree seeing as he'll at least have a hint as to where he's going.

Sasuke and Itachi are telepaths/psychic types you restricted their main power which is basically telepathy. All they have is ninjutsu, Amaterasu, and spiritual constructs (i.e. Susanoo).

Goku and Hit can win most of these.

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Even with SE and unrestricted techs any of team 2 can solo. Time skip or regular blast should do the work.

@grands: Goku isn't soloing in a stat equal contest.

Could Goku solo in a stat equal and pure h2h contest?

The Naruto team wins.

@the_hajduk: in a 1v1 yes but he's not beating two highly skilled ninja in hand 2 hand.

But I was talking about all out equal stats.

Hit solos

Yeah I know, I was just curious about h2h. Have Sasuke or Itachi fought someone with Goku level h2h before?

@the_hajduk: I'm in a minority but I believe all elite ninja to be on that level skill wise, they train from a very young age some even leading war parties at the age of 12 (Kakashi)

It could go both ways. Goku could surpass equal stats condition using kaioken (or spirit bomb but imo he dont get enough time to charge it). He sometimes uses taiyoken(solar flare) and instant transmision in his fight or taps into UI. But I still think Hit is the mvp if their team wins.

True but I think Dragon fighters surpass even that.

In Dragon Ball there's Roshi, Tao, Crane, Son Gohan. They are all immortal sennin and legendary figures. I'd say they might be above the Naruto sennin because they are generally even older and more experienced. The kids surpassed this level at the 22nd Budokai. In the case of Tenshinhan and Son Goku, it was by a lot. Roshi could not understand some of the techniques on display, and he was the strongest sennin by far. So that's at least Hokage level already.

Goku then receives Heavenly training and competes with Piccolo's demon clansman style. Piccolo even has lines where he says he recognizes the moves Goku learned from Kami and his demon clansman style will certainly prove superior. But he was wrong, Goku surpassed that level of martial arts as well, which is basically everything Earth had to offer, Heaven and demon clans included.

The saiyans are then meant to be the greatest warrior race in the universe, known for their natural fighting ability, ability to grow during combat and learn on the fly. Goku is established as among the least talented of this race, and that was still enough talent to surpass Earth fighters with 1000 years of training (Kami, Piccolo, and Popo). The saiyan ability to learn as they fight and how skilled they are is something that would require another entire post to go over, but it seems safely a few tiers above anything from Naruto.

@the_hajduk: I'm not saying Naruto>DB in skill I'm just saying the ninja have enough skill to hang with them. Which I believe because Cell, Buu, and Freiza all had no hand 2 hand training and they did.

Freeza was the greatest prodigy in the universe. They refer to him as a genius multiple times and he learns ridiculously quickly.

Cell was designed to be the perfect fighter with the combined skills and training of all the universes greatest masters. He's perfect.

Boo was shown to literally learn any technique at all after seeing it once. And he's been fighting for millions of years.

No genjutsu but stats equalized goes to the Uchiha Bros. Better teamwork, nearly as skilled (Hit's skill feats are underwhelming without time-skip), still have many non-genjutsu hax.

Chikabu Tensei GG.

@captfalcon725:

"Hit's skill feats are underwhelming without time-skip"

Good thing time skip is not restricted then, Hit could have a bit of trouble soloing without it.

@the_hajduk:

Naruto has prodigys, Naruto has experiments meant to surpass older generations, and Naruto has abilities that copy and adapt other skills/jutsu.

Since genjutsu isn’t allowed, Hit and Goku win. Time skip is too much for them, and Goku is more skilled in hand to hand combat.

correct the title

and restricting their main power to wins?. spite

Feats of move reading in Naruto? Feats of pressure points that paralyze or explode heads? Feats of joint locks or grappling submissions? Feats of minimum movement and precision control?

1.) Move reading? This is basics for the Shairgan, Kakashi did it to Zabuza to the point that Zabuza thought Kakashi was moving first and Zabuza was following him. Naruto has went hand 2 hand with 5 users of this.

2.) Pressure points? In Naruto they're called chakra points and Neji can hit all 64 with extreme accuracy. The exploding heads didn't happen with hand 2 hand, Frezia was using Ki.

3.) This is basic Taijutsu as is the minimum movement and precision control every hand 2 hand fighter in any verse does this .

@the_hajduk: Goku is good at fist fighting he isn't some uneatable god at it though he gets tagged all the time by people with zero training.

Naruto who isn't even known for his taijutsu has really good skilled based feats

Team DBS. Goku is a weak link tho.

Naruto team was shafted when you took away Genjutsu. Time-skip is activated before anything else Uchiha activate. IOW, DB team makes the first move. Although Naruto team has a lot more ways to win

Make this full-knowledge/Blood lusted and Uchiha win 10/10

Naruto characters lack impressive skill feats. That said I'm not sure what they'd need when Sharingan reads moves to the point Sasuke clowned KN0 Naruto who was fast enough to blitz him. Unless you're vastly faster than Sharingan there's really no counter for it in melee.

With equal stats DB team can still nuke them. Question though, can Hit even fire Ki blasts? I literally can't remember a single time he did.

This is heavily in favor of Uchihas. Goku and Hit do not have a counter for Amaterasu and Full Susanoo has never been destroyed... plus Totsuka sword from Itachi. Sasuke can TP either of them into Itachi's sword sealing attack. Goku is too eager to fight, and he'll likely get black flames that'll kill him. Hit is more careful, but the Uchiha bros have too much hax on their side.

Stats equalized but goku goes haaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh!!!!!!! And then stats no longer equal

Hit puede vencerlos en solitario.

Goku and Hit win this

This should have been called: Goku and Hit stomps the living shit out of both Sasuke and Itachi

Sounds like a much more better title 😆

Time freeze Hakai GG

sasuke solos everyone here and negs db fodderverse

Hit skips time and oneshots