Sasuke (Naruto) VS Aizen (Bleach) Equal Stats

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Strength, speed and durability are equalized, who would win? Win by death/KO. No prep time.

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Aizen is smarter and a lot more experienced, he will find a way

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Sasuke obliterates him.

KS won't work, he's more skilled, and has PS which Aizen cant crack.

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Another Naruto VS Bleach battle that's just awesome................

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#6  Edited By Rxdking

in before 500 posts

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How is this even fair? Now it all comes down to skill/abilities and Aizens one techique wouldnt work

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@temporal_shift: Tbh these NvB flames wars don't last this long. The newest user that are around the NvB battles don't know when to stop prolonging it.

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Aizen wins. Grabs popcorn.

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@narutobleachfan: Awwwwwwww hell Nah lol

I'm curious on why you think Aizen wins though.

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Sasuke has several power amps by susanoo and his eyes alone.

He wins.

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Another Naruto VS Bleach battle that's just awesome................

@rxdking said:

in before 500 posts

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In who's right mind makes this thread?

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Sasuke would hack him to death. His Rinnegan Genjutsu is far more powerful than Kyoka Suigetsu. He would paralyse him and turn him into a mini-moon.

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@temporal_shift:

There are quite a few reasons why:

1) As universeichigo said (yeah I know his history but still) Aizen is indeed smarter and has more experience.

2) He solo'd multiple people who had similar stats to him anyway.

3) Master at Kido

4) He trolled Yhwach, holy jesus.

If this was unequal Sasuke would win, but Aizen always has a trick.

Can't wait for 400+ posts assuming this doesn't get locked.

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I can sense this getting a little heated already, I'm going to the spectator side.

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@narutobleachfan: Dont worry lol I'm not looking for an argument I just wanted to see you reasons for picking Aizen and now I have lol.

I'm focused on other things atm lol

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Genjutsu GG

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Seeing who has just been tagged, this will indeed last for several pages.

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#25  Edited By iUseMyCajonas

Aizen probably wins seeing as how it’s already semi arguable with the stat difference, but I haven’t been that far into Bleach yet so I can’t say for sure.

But then Sasuke has shown repeatedly that he can also preform semi okay agaisnt people who outstat him. ?‍♂️

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@narutobleachfan:

You're definitely part of the toxicity in these battles recently

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people gon be instigating!!!

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#29  Edited By HitTheAssasin

Probably Sasuke, but it's reasonably close. Aizen is smarter and has an experience advantage, can spam large AOE Kido from a distance, has greater stamina due to immortality and is also nigh-impossible to put down due to said immortality. If we're using the Butterfly/Monster version, he even has teleportation.

However, Sasuke has good pre-cog, clones, likely slightly superior skill, Amaterasu, sealing to put Aizen down with and superior illusions+gravity manipulation and other Rinnegan hax. So, he wins in a good fight.

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#30  Edited By alextheboss

Aizen is immortal. With equal stats the only way he loses is by being put under genjutsu and sealed. I would give Aizen the majority here.

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#31  Edited By alextheboss

@hope_w: @temporal_shift:

KS is complete hypnosis, Sasuke's eyes will only counter visual hypnosis, so Aizen should be able to mess with his other senses.

And with equal stats Sasuke will have a hard time putting down Aizen who is immortal. If Sasuke goes perfect Susanoo Aizen could arguably just teleport right inside of it with Sasuke.

Sasuke could possibly win by sealing Aizen (which is what I think would happen in a normal fight between them), but with the equal stats that will be really hard to pull off.

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@alextheboss: IT is planet level TP, even effecting those who where immune to TP, it also effects all 5 senses and effects your sense of time and reality.

If Sasuke can counter that I don't see KS being a problem.

Does Aizen have TP resist feats?

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#33  Edited By iUseMyCajonas

@temporal_shift said:

@alextheboss: IT is planet level TP, even effecting those who where immune to TP, it also effects all 5 senses and effects your sense of time and reality.

If Sasuke can counter that I don't see KS being a problem.

Does Aizen have TP resist feats?

Sasuke countered IT by hiding in a Susanoo unless I’m forgetting something.

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@iusemycajonas: the TP was unable to effect him in PS, so why would a lesser TP work?

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@iusemycajonas: the TP was unable to effect him in PS, so why would a lesser TP work?

Because the lesser TP isn’t light based?

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Aizen knew about Sasuke from birth, no way can you beat that kind of plot foresight.

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@iusemycajonas: back to your first point, Sasuke states that the only reason IT can't pass through his Susanoo is because his Eye made it, it's due to his eye not his Susanoo. Naruto, Kakashi, and Saukra did the hiding not Sasuke.

The genjutsu isn't light based it just travels through light in which his Sasunoo blocked it from effecting his team, his Eye alone is enough here.

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@narutobleachfan: Stats equalised I would say aizen. I still haven't seen an argument why the k.S factors other than the vison wouldnt work on sasuke. Also he's immortal So that factors in heavily. Sasuke would need a quick genjutsu and seal. Other than that idk how sasuke wins

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@narutobleachfan: Comes down to the old age arguement if KS is Genjutsu or not.

And hell naw... I ain't gon pick a side.

This shit gon be gud.

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#40  Edited By alextheboss

@temporal_shift:

IT is planet level TP, even effecting those who where immune to TP, it also effects all 5 senses and effects your sense of time and reality.

Didn't that come from looking at the light though? And his Susanoo stopped it. Ya the susanoo was made by his eyes, but it is basically an eye power stopping an eye attack, that happenes to work on all senses. Aizen seems to be able to activate KS without anyone looking at it, and he can even manipulate people's perception of time. I don't think Aizen would win with KS, but I do think it could throw Sasuke off a bit.

Does Aizen have TP resist feats?

Kind of. Shinji's shikai power is to make everyone's perception backwards, but Aizen countered and still won. Whether he overcame the power, or was just smart enough to realize which direction everything truly was I don't know.

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@alextheboss: regardless of how the TP travels its implied that Sasukes Eye allowed his Susanoo to block it.

So regardless of it traveling through light or eye sight or any other medium it's a high level feat Aizen cant replicate

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@alextheboss: Genjutsu effects 5 senses, and though it is now more debatable due to speed equalization; Sasukes techniques operate on sight and thought meaning he'd get them off much faster naturally

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Aizen

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Sasuke’s genjutsu will definitely work on Aizen and it’s questionable as to how effective KS will be on a sharingan user. Not sayin KS is basic genjutsu level, but before it affects other senses, it goes through sight first. You could argue Sasuke would be immune entirely based on resisting the initial visual application of KS or is immune to the visual manipulation after KS is applied while being affected by the other sensory applications of KS. Visual is the most important though. And there’s no real argument as for Aizen resisting Sasuke’s genjutsu, which would put him down so Aizen’s immortality doesn’t become an issue. With stats equal, the only thing that matters is the TP arguments and you can take whatever position you want I guess.

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I'm leaning towards Sasuke.

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@temporal_shift: Who else’s eye couldve made it? Naruto’s? I don’t understand this argument at all.

Of course his eyes made the Susanoo’.

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@iusemycajonas: the argument is that the eye is resisting the TP, so the Susanoo was made via the eye to protect the others Sasuke didn't need it.

The medium of which it travels doesn't matter TP is TP, and Sasuke straight up has better feats. I understand your argument just not the part of it which explains how it traveling through light means he can't defend against lesser tp.

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#50  Edited By thelocust619

To avoid yet another KS v Rinne/Sharingan discussion (there shouldn't be, Rinne/Sharingan stomps) I'm just gonna ignore illusions for both characters and focus on a physical fight. For simplicity, just assume they're both immune or just not bothering.

Aizen being said to have mastered every catagory of fighting isn't really a feat. By feats in actual combat skill...he lazily swings a two handed sword with one hand which one shots people he almost always overpowers (Re: he's doing it wrong and we just accept this under the implication he's so good he can make it work, when in reality his form is horrible and all we can really take is that he has good timing with his swings and that's being generous considering how he outstats nearly everyone). What Aizen is good at is planning and (usually) general decision making...he'd be a far more effective general than a warrior if he could just stop viewing his subordinates as disposable.

Sasuke has countless combat skill showings with legit forms and excellent attack chaining. Skill is not even slightly close, tbh. Sasuke doesn't surpass Aizen's strengths, but Aizen doesn't nearly surpass Sasuke's either and his are more suited to a 1v1 skill contest between warriors.

Immortality is a nonfactor btw. KO is a win condition.