Checkpoints had a lore function; human souls can learn from a fight and redo it. In a straight-up 1v1 in the overworld where are no checkpoints (you die and that's it), Hulk can't really do anything except have his soul get wrecked.
Checkpoints had a lore function; human souls can learn from a fight and redo it. In a straight-up 1v1 in the overworld where are no checkpoints (you die and that's it), Hulk can't really do anything except have his soul get wrecked.
In that case, it depends. How powerful are Sans' Gaster Blasters lore wise? In game, a single shot is unable to kill the human and even multiple if they don't drop to 0 HP. Karma does most of the damage. If they are at all comparable to Iron Man's regular repulsor weapons or his Hulkbuster repulsor rays, they aren't doing much to Hulk except pissing him off. Hulk has the durability to handle TK spam and Sans can't hold out forever as we already know. He gets tired just by moving or using his abilities. He can teleport and dodge around for quite a long period but I'm not quite sure he has what it takes to put the Hulk down permanently.
They stick your soul in a box and start shooting at it.
Is that not just a game mechanic? Lol
If they actually fight like that then this isn't much of a fight and every 'animated' portrayal of the Undertale characters fighting would be completely wrong.
Yeah nah, lorewise that's actually how it works. The whole point of Undertale is that the mechanics are part of the story, incorporeal soul battles included.
Yeah nah, lorewise that's actually how it works. The whole point of Undertale is that the mechanics are part of the story, incorporeal soul battles included.
The game? They actually explain checkpoints, the heart (soul), how loading works, Flowey literally says "See that heart? That is your SOUL, the very culmination of your being." It doesn't take much effort to put two and two together to realize that monsters are attacking your incorporeal soul, not trying to bash your skull in.
The game? They actually explain checkpoints, the heart (soul), how loading works, Flowey literally says "See that heart? That is your SOUL, the very culmination of your being." It doesn't take much effort to put two and two together to realize that monsters are attacking your incorporeal soul, not trying to bash your skull in.
I suppose that is true. Hm.. Hulk seems helpless then. Wouldn't his determination make it impossible for him to lose, though?
While determination can live on after death, saving / loading is a feature specific to the underworld which is why people can't do it in the overworld. Yes, Hulk is helpless. Just like he would be helpless if the Ancient One, Ghost Rider, etc. took his soul out and destroyed it instead of getting into a fist fight.
While determination can live on after death, saving / loading is a feature specific to the underworld which is why people can't do it in the overworld. Yes, Hulk is helpless. Just like he would be helpless if the Ancient One, Ghost Rider, etc. took his soul out and destroyed it instead of getting into a fist fight.
@lilbroomstick: In that case I think it would be more interesting if we discussed this in regards to how they would fight character to character not how the game worked. Like a 'normal' battle, I mean.
Sans' entire gimmick is ignoring durability and teleporting away. He counters Hulk pretty damn hard, and with Hulk having 0 soul damage resistance feats, he goes down quick.
@lilbroomstick: In that case I think it would be more interesting if we discussed this in regards to how they would fight character to character not how the game worked. Like a 'normal' battle, I mean.
I separated the physical fight and soul based fight into different rounds
@lilbroomstick: In which case he literally cannot do a single thing to Hulk. He has 1 health and 1 attack. He quite literally would lose to an 8 year old with a knife.
@lilbroomstick: In which case he literally cannot do a single thing to Hulk. He has 1 health and 1 attack. He quite literally would lose to an 8 year old with a knife.
R1: Sans gets stomped into the ground
R2: Hulk gets boned into the ground
I think OP meant it in a way that despite Sans being unable to attack the soul, what would normally happen to the soul or what Sans would do to the soul with his attacks would happen to the Hulk physically.
They actually kind of had a point Sans' attack power is quite low and the only reason they do so much damage is because he "cheats" which allows him to do numerous attacks simultaneously. Hulk's durability should be quite a bit above a kid's though.
We don't know how Hulk's soul would hold up on the otherhand.
They actually kind of had a point Sans' attack power is quite low and the only reason they do so much damage is because he "cheats" which allows him to do numerous attacks simultaneously. Hulk's durability should be quite a bit above a kid's though.
We don't know how Hulk's soul would hold up on the otherhand.
Fair.. I think it's accurate to assume both rounds are a stomp in opposite ways.
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