Sanji(One Piece) vs Kimimaro (Naruto)

@utkanflash: How fast do you think Kimimaro is?

@socajunkie: You can claim whatever you wanna say w/o any explanation but asking from others ?

Yes that's usually how this forum works, one person backs up claims when they're asked, in their first post they usually just state the winner.

There is not enough difference between their speed for make one of'em the victor just cuz of speed. Even Sick Kimimaro was a massively hypersonic beings. (such as Sanji)

Do you have any evidence for this? Drunken weighted Lee was not hypersonic, let alone massively hypersonic and kept up with Kimi just fine.

And lets say yeah Sanji is faster (which aint that much and even healthy kimi might be the faster one) There is still some issues. Gaara's thousands of tons of pressure with Sand Tsunami just able to scratch Kimi's skin and give some visible wounds.

Sanji also has precognition to boot, making the speed difference worse. He also one-shotted a Pacifista, they were durable enough to take the Pre-TS Straw Hat's combined attacks.

And cutting steel was an issue even for a very powerful char Zoro in Alabasta arc.

Completely moot point since that arc was early on and doesn't reflect either end of Pre-TS Zoro or current Zoro's ability- currently he doesn't even need to directly cut steel to slice them up, his winds do that for him.

And piercing or cutting something has more pressure on on specific spot. A Kick cant replicate that.

Sanji one-shotting Pacifista is good enough.

Kimimaro's bones stated as even harder than steel.

Wasn't a problem for Lee who landed hits and didn't injure himself so it won't be a problem for Sanji.

So Sanji cant one shot him.

Once again- he one-shots Pacifistas, androids much more durable than Pre-TS Franky who had metal components.

Plus he might hurt his legs.

No, he won't.

It happened before when he try to kick Kuma

Pre time skip, Kuma is more durable than a Pacifista and Sanji was still injured fighting Oars and Moria.

and a Pacifista

Once again pre- time skip, when using Diable Jambe to kick it towards Zoro he didn't hurt himself at all.

and try to kick vergo.

Missing the important context of Nami damaging Sanji's body before so he was in a more fragile state when he faced Vergo.

And same Kuma cutted by Zoro with the same attack when zoro cutted Daz Bones. So That means Kuma's metalic portion its not harder than steel cuz Zoro was able to cut through)

He was barely able to cut him and it was just the surface.

So Pre-Timeskip sanji still aint has anything against a something durable as steel.

Apart from the fact that he has, are you forgetting CP9 can make their bodies as hard or harder than steel? Sanji's Diable Jambe burned through Jabra's Tekkai. Here he kicks away a Pacifista without hurting himself.

And since we aint saw any impressive progress from Sanji except Air Walk, Double Diable Jumble and A bit Observation Haki.

Ridiculous low-balling considering Post-Time Skip Sanji's damage output is almost equal to the collective attacks of the whole pre-time skip crew.

I Assume he still gonna have tough times against Kimimaro.

You've factually assumed wrong.

And that was the "deadly sick" kimimaro were talking about. So against Healthy Kimimaro who is a elite jonin level combatant who has a realy good defense and battle skills .Sanji aint has anything to offer. Sanji never showed a durability feat against a piercive material which is harder than steel.

Going on about harder than steel and ignoring Sanji against Jabra. You've yet to present evidence for anything you've said or make a case for Kimi.

And about general speed of Naruto Chunnin and Jonins.

13-14 year old Kakashi cutting a natural lightning stroke and thats why his jutsu's (Chidori) name change in to raikiri (it means Lightning Cutter) . So Lightning Speed is a very common and almost genin to chunnin thing for narutoverse.

Lee was matching Dosu's sonic speed movements and Kimi couldn't blitz him, so what is he doing to Sanji?

Oda's himself has his own explanations about the speed of CP9 in SBS dialogs and that makes chars like Kaku (ı seperate Lucci cuz of his obvious superiority) are barely transonic to low-supersonic due to Oda's himself.

Woah what's your source for this?

In terms of actual speed, Sanji and Zoro were peers before the time-skip, with both having re-entry level speed. They both only got much faster since then.

So next time try to be a specialist about "speed blitz" check your info Sir(or Ma'm).

Please link this, I'm quite curious.

On the other hand even Deadly Wounded Genin Neji has a massivehypersonic feat .

Which is what? Give evidence.

Naruto universe got better reaction, travel and combat speeds in general.

Blanket statements like this aren't helping your case at all.

And even due to this ı never said "Kimimaro is faster" ı just said "Sanji cant blitz a high-jonin level char from Naruto" Which is true via power-scaling differency between both universe and due to feats too.

You're not convincing anyone with this.

And web sites about power levels such as "vsbattleswikia" considering both After timeskip Sanji and Sick Kimimaro are massively hypersonic . And yet you find my "he cant blitz" odd. And asking question in a unpolite way..

I couldn't care less about what a fan-made wiki says about characters, especially one so unreliable to label Spider-Man as having town-busting strength.

For speed, Iron Fist and Wolverine are also listed as having massively hypersonic combat speed. I guess they're as fast as Sanji.

Referencing wikis is rudimentary.

Good days to you Sir (or Ma'm)

Sir.