Saiyan saga Goku vs Vegeta

After Goku used his kamehamheha, Vegeta was so angry, he became a giant ape. He broke all of goku's bones, so that he couldn't move. If he hadn't turned into a great ape, would the fight have turned out differently?

No. Goku’s body was heavily damaged by simply using Kaioken multipliers over x2 (he had no control over higher forms of it yet). Vegeta’s power still beats Goku’s up to Kaioken x2. So unless Goku planned to suicide, he wouldn’t be able to reach Vegeta’s level again and his body is already extremely weakened anyway.

It depends on what level Goku goes on through Kaioken but with Just him and Vegeta in Saiyan Saga. Vegeta would win most likely.

Vegeta would win, Goku was already mostly depleted after KKx4. Vegeta didn't really need Oozaru, he did it only because he couldn't sense Goku's energy and thought Goku can abuse KKx4.

Yeah Vegeta wins in this scenario.

Vegeta would've killed him. Even now Kioken hurts Goku like a mofo which goes to show us that there's no training that helps you with Kioken. If Goku would've tried again then he would've died.

Goku went into Kaioken x 3 against Great Ape Vegeta.

Depends on how well Goku could have continued kaioken or if he could have used the spirit bomb.

Could go either way honestly.

Stalemate or Vegeta

@jueix: Didn't that and the fact that Vegeta stepped on him also leave him crippled?

Also Goku was damn near exhausted. He'd have to constantly keep that times 2 to keep up in the fight and he'd have no time to prepare his spirit bomb

Vegeta would win. Goku was already massively worn out/injured from using Kaioken x4.

I mean if he catches Vegeta off guard and can reach upto Kaioken times 5 or something which we don't know of course but that could work. Plus Vegeta's durability is pretty high and he is not someone you easily catch off guard.

Vegeta kills him.

Goku was cramping up, exhausted and a pat on the back from Yajirobe caused him extreme pain. Going times 5 would most likely kill Goku outright.

I still think Goku could win this. The Kaio-Ken left him tired and hurt, but there's no reason to believe Vegeta wasn't even more hurt after taking a x4 Kamehameha head-on.

I honestly think people only came up with the idea that Vegeta would have beaten Goku to justify their fanboyism. Story-wise, Goku was winning and there is no denying that.

@ouroborik said:

True, but Vegeta seemed fine after he came back from the beam struggle.

Vegeta

He definitely wasn't fine. If he was fine he wouldn't have resorted to turning into a Great Ape. He probably wasted most of his energy firing the Galick Gun that Goku overpowered.

@ouroborik said:

He probably wanted to turn into a Great Ape to finish the fight quickly, that and he was pretty pissed. Either way, you make a good point.

Probably Goku he had too much advantage in PL on him in KKX3 he could do it one more time for sure and either finish him or hart him enough to beat him after.