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#1 Edited by houseshm (1966 posts) - - Show Bio

After events of dragonball super, Goku (who still has 75000 years to live thanks to supreme kai, the others have passed away naturally) travels the 12 universes and has children with a Krptonian, Flash, Amazon, and Asgardian, and she hulk?

Which one would win in a fight?

to make this interesting

Round 1: 10 years old hybrids

Round 2: 20 years old hybrids

Round 3: 30 years old hybrids

Edit: Added Saiyan-Flash hybrid and Saiyan Hulk hybrid

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#2 Posted by zr0c00l (3143 posts) - - Show Bio

under yellow sun kryptonian one stomps both others at the same time

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#3 Edited by houseshm (1966 posts) - - Show Bio
@zr0c00l said:

under yellow sun kryptonian one stomps both others at the same time

they all have received the same training from goku, I would say saiyan-amazon hybrid would be better equipped to handle the other two. Just because the amazons rely of martial arts as much as saiyans do. What about asgardian god blast?

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#4 Posted by APEX_pretador (20273 posts) - - Show Bio

kryptonian easily.

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#5 Posted by ASGARDIANBRONY (11629 posts) - - Show Bio

@houseshm: depending on the asgardian they should win.

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#8 Posted by ASGARDIANBRONY (11629 posts) - - Show Bio

@houseshm: Asgardian hybrid is the best choice, not only are they born with potential for magic but the child would probably have godly KI and if lucky could be the god of something, like war, or martial arts or fire.

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#9 Posted by houseshm (1966 posts) - - Show Bio

@houseshm: Asgardian hybrid is the best choice, not only are they born with potential for magic but the child would probably have godly KI and if lucky could be the god of something, like war, or martial arts or fire.

good points, also god of destruction. Also speed increase from saiyan side combined with raw power of asgardian, would be one powerful combination.

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#10 Posted by AcroKat (7384 posts) - - Show Bio

A Saiyan-Kryptonian would be a nightmare.... They would easily one shot everyone under a yellow sun.

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#11 Posted by deactivated-5988def3424a7 (5386 posts) - - Show Bio

None of them exist so there are no feats to base them on. I can't pick a winner here really.

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#12 Posted by Jiraiya_sageofoil (2313 posts) - - Show Bio

Im gonna go saiyan asgardian

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#13 Posted by houseshm (1966 posts) - - Show Bio

@acrokat said:

A Saiyan-Kryptonian would be a nightmare.... They would easily one shot everyone under a yellow sun.

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one shot like this lol

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#15 Posted by Dernman (25976 posts) - - Show Bio

I say Kryptonian Saiyan. Asgardians are not all that impressive except for a few. There is no guarantee they're going to be anything special.

Amazon best attribute is their fighting ability which means nothing if you're getting that training by Goku. Not to mention most of them don't even have WW's stats.

Kryptonians on the other automatically have the stats by their nature. Put that together with ki and martial arts training it's over for the enemy.

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#16 Posted by ASGARDIANBRONY (11629 posts) - - Show Bio

@houseshm: Exactly, Asgardian hybrid would defeat all the others.

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#17 Posted by webinyoureye11 (5698 posts) - - Show Bio

How is this a question? Kryptonians are almost indestructible enough, give them zenkais and super saiyan forms and they will solo the rest for sure.

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#18 Posted by MysticMedivh (32250 posts) - - Show Bio
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#19 Edited by houseshm (1966 posts) - - Show Bio

@webinyoureye11 said:

How is this a question? Kryptonians are almost indestructible enough, give them zenkais and super saiyan forms and they will solo the rest for sure.

what about magic weakness? The saiyan krptonian would have magic weakness from krptonian side which the saiyan asgardian could exploit since asgardian magic would be amplied with chi. Although saiyan krptonian would still have speed advantage

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#20 Posted by Nite_Nite (2348 posts) - - Show Bio

@houseshm said:
@webinyoureye11 said:

How is this a question? Kryptonians are almost indestructible enough, give them zenkais and super saiyan forms and they will solo the rest for sure.

what about magic weakness? The saiyan krptonian would have magic weakness from krptonian side which the saiyan asgardian could exploit since asgardian magic would be amplied with chi. Although saiyan krptonian would still have speed advantage

Except magic isn't a weakness for kryptonians. Magic is something that they are susceptible to like mostly everyone else who doesn't have any talent in those fields. Except they're a lot tougher than the average person so they'll like power through magic that would incapacitat the normal person to begin with.

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#21 Edited by houseshm (1966 posts) - - Show Bio

@nite_nite said:
@houseshm said:
@webinyoureye11 said:

How is this a question? Kryptonians are almost indestructible enough, give them zenkais and super saiyan forms and they will solo the rest for sure.

what about magic weakness? The saiyan krptonian would have magic weakness from krptonian side which the saiyan asgardian could exploit since asgardian magic would be amplied with chi. Although saiyan krptonian would still have speed advantage

Except magic isn't a weakness for kryptonians. Magic is something that they are susceptible to like mostly everyone else who doesn't have any talent in those fields. Except they're a lot tougher than the average person so they'll like power through magic that would incapacitat the normal person to begin with.

ok good point, although of the three I think the saiyan amazon would the strongest from the start while the others will need to hone their skills on krptonian and asgardian side.Saiyan Krptonian would have the most potential

Wonder Woman is the amazon mother, Sif is asgardian mother, and Kara Zor-L the krptonian mother

I would think wonder woman training would put the saiyan-amazon at an edge in terms of combat

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#22 Posted by HeroUp2112 (18259 posts) - - Show Bio

The Saiyan hybrid wins.

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#23 Posted by ComicVinero (951 posts) - - Show Bio

saiyan kryptonian

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#24 Posted by Nite_Nite (2348 posts) - - Show Bio

@houseshm: who's the father? With training from both goku and WW the Amazon hybrid would be the best trained- but WWs training would only improve the hybrid's use of weaponry seeing as goku's training more than triple suffices the amazons.

However that wouldn't be enough of an edge over the kryptonian hybrid who would have exceedingly high stats with the bonus of goku's training. The amazon say, being able to use an arm bar technique means nothing when the kryptonian can just flex superior strength to break out.

The asgardian has the potential for magic. That's about the only bonus. And whatever magic potential it has will be limited to the training given by Sif. It won't be impressive enough. This one is the weakest link.

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#25 Edited by houseshm (1966 posts) - - Show Bio

@nite_nite said:

@houseshm: who's the father? With training from both goku and WW the Amazon hybrid would be the best trained- but WWs training would only improve the hybrid's use of weaponry seeing as goku's training more than triple suffices the amazons.

However that wouldn't be enough of an edge over the kryptonian hybrid who would have exceedingly high stats with the bonus of goku's training. The amazon say, being able to use an arm bar technique means nothing when the kryptonian can just flex superior strength to break out.

The asgardian has the potential for magic. That's about the only bonus. And whatever magic potential it has will be limited to the training given by Sif. It won't be impressive enough. This one is the weakest link.

good points (father is goku btw I thought I put that in the OP), to add would kara training put saiyan krptonian hybrid even further beyond the others that they have no chance to catch up?

I would think at different ages they have different stats since krptonian powers develop over time based on exposure to sun

so

saiyan krptonian>saiyan amazon>saiyan asgardian at their prime?

otherwise

saiyan amazon>saiyan krptonian>saiya asgardian around 10 years old?

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#26 Posted by Nite_Nite (2348 posts) - - Show Bio

@houseshm: my bad I thought I read that only goku was the mentor.

-WW and Sif would be much better combat mentors than Kara. So in training it would go Amazon and Asgardian>Kryptonian.

However there's very little h2h combat either of the two could teach their respective children that would be significant if at all seeing as Goku is training them. They'd only gain knowledge of use via weaponry. Depending on which version of WW either her or Sif's child will have the edge.

-Age does play a part though. At a younger age the training would be mostly important. Going by Supes. But we don't know yet if he's the standard seeing as his son is about to start in a serial run around 10yrs old.

-So youth, I'd give it to Amazon-Asgardian-Kryptonian

-Prime. I give it to Kryptonian-Amazon-Asgardian

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#27 Posted by houseshm (1966 posts) - - Show Bio

@houseshm: Exactly, Asgardian hybrid would defeat all the others.

I think I found a Saiyan Asgardian hybrid lol

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#28 Posted by ASGARDIANBRONY (11629 posts) - - Show Bio
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#29 Posted by ASGARDIANBRONY (11629 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman: @webinyoureye11: @comicvinero: @nite_nite: @houseshm:

Asgasrdian hybrid has the potential to be far more powerful than the others.

ASGARDIAN HYBRID (guaranteed abilities)

Godly Ki: As a divine being the hybrid would have godly Ki along with his other abilities.

Semi-immortality: The hybrid can live for thousands of years and survive without vital organs.

(Potential abilities)

Lordship: as a god the child has the potential to be born with power over something, like thor has power over the storm. The hybrid could be a war god, a thunder god, a god of strength destruction ect. The hybrid has the potential to have divine command over nature or aspects.

Magic: the hybrid could be born with insane magical abilities.

None of the other hybrids will have any of those abilities other than semi-immortality, the asgardian has insane potential and the assured power of godly ki, you cant choose anyone else.

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#30 Posted by serpinethegreen (5164 posts) - - Show Bio

@houseshm:

Kriptonian hybrid stomps ( assuming it's been fueled by a yellow sun, otherwise it's no stronger than a human-saiyan hybrid). What most people here forget is that characters like Thor are absolutely in the minority with regards to Asgardians. However, when you consider how powerful every shown Kriptonian (that's been exposed to a yellow sun) is; it goes without saying that the average (yellow saiyan infused) Kriptonian blows the average Asgardian out of the water. The Amazon's are non factors.

@ASGARDIANBRONY:

The majority of Asgardians would be fodder to any yellow sun infused Kriptonian. What you're suggesting is ridiculous; it's like a human-saiyan automatically getting doctor strange powers, because he's human. Does the Asgardian hybrid have the most potential? Quite possibly. Does that mean we should just assume the hybrid is the best? Simply put, no.

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#31 Posted by ASGARDIANBRONY (11629 posts) - - Show Bio

@serpinethegreen: the asgardian hybrid immediately gets godly Ki, so its nothing like you stated. So not only does the Aesir hybrid have potential for magic and asgardian deity powers, but is guaranteed godly ki and has potential for sayan god powers as well. Aesir hybrid is the best hybrid.

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#32 Posted by serpinethegreen (5164 posts) - - Show Bio

@asgardianbrony:

Based on what? Because you say so? An Asgardian-saiyan hybrid wouldn't just "get" godly ki, that's not how it works.

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#33 Posted by ASGARDIANBRONY (11629 posts) - - Show Bio

@serpinethegreen: he would be a god, so he would have a godly life force so he would have godly ki.

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#34 Posted by CurlyInsaneGuy (422 posts) - - Show Bio

But what about the Saiyan-Vitrumite hybrid?

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#35 Posted by ArrowheadDip (475 posts) - - Show Bio

Is this under a yellow sun?

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#36 Edited by houseshm (1966 posts) - - Show Bio

@arrowheaddip said:

Is this under a yellow sun?

Yes, the saiyan krptonian would be born on earth so under earth yellow sun

he would be a god, so he would have a godly life force so he would have godly ki.

Goku could pass on godly ki to the hybrids when they are born so that is not exclusive to the saiyan asgardian hybrid

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#37 Posted by serpinethegreen (5164 posts) - - Show Bio

@serpinethegreen: he would be a god, so he would have a godly life force so he would have godly ki.

Pseudo logic at it's finest. There are a number of ways of looking at this (all disagree with you):

  • Asgardians don't actually have Ki, them being given it wouldn't necessarily make said KI anymore special.
  • They're the wrong type of god, as they're not DBZ gods.
  • They aren't actual gods, god is just a title.
  • A hybrid would only be half Asgardian, and therefore not a god (no such thing as demigod ki).
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@asgardianbrony said:

@serpinethegreen: he would be a god, so he would have a godly life force so he would have godly ki.

Pseudo logic at it's finest. There are a number of ways of looking at this (all disagree with you):

  • Asgardians don't actually have Ki, them being given it wouldn't necessarily make said KI anymore special.
  • They're the wrong type of god, as they're not DBZ gods.
  • They aren't actual gods, god is just a title.
  • A hybrid would only be half Asgardian, and therefore not a god (no such thing as demigod ki).

KI is life force, and the asgardians have godly life force.

They would still give divine life force, and since saiyans use life force hey could do godblasts.

They re gods, read the comics.

They would still divine life force, and sayans can go into godforms so they could be fully gods.

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@comicvinero:

Says a lot about you if you honestly fell for that pseudo logic of his. Not only is his point about "Godly-ki" a lie (numerous reasons, listed a few above); the potential abilities he could have are extremly rare (like less than 1%). If we are talking factually (ironic since this is about fictional characters) the average Asgardian is fodder for the average (yellow sun infused) Kriptonian. Why you'd trust someone with a username containing the word Asgardian not to be biased is beyond me.

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#44 Edited by serpinethegreen (5164 posts) - - Show Bio

@asgardianbrony:

I'm saying that the DBZ lot aren't actual gods IIRC. Regardless you can't say that there "god lifeforce" is the same as the DBZ variant (since you have no proof), or that it could be used in the same way. It's phuedo logic.

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#45 Posted by Dernman (25976 posts) - - Show Bio

@asgardianbrony said:

@serpinethegreen: he would be a god, so he would have a godly life force so he would have godly ki.

Pseudo logic at it's finest. There are a number of ways of looking at this (all disagree with you):

  • Asgardians don't actually have Ki, them being given it wouldn't necessarily make said KI anymore special.
  • They're the wrong type of god, as they're not DBZ gods.
  • They aren't actual gods, god is just a title.
  • A hybrid would only be half Asgardian, and therefore not a god (no such thing as demigod ki).

Let me add to that. These "gods" well the majority of them aren't that powerful. Many of them are not that powerful beyond low level meta. It's whey Asgard has such trouble during that terrible event siege. Like I said it's a crap shoot if you're lucky enough to be special even then you're only a demi god.

Kryptonions under a yellow sun also have virtual immortality in most versions. Some he can transcend his body all together. That's not even getting into what he becomes in DC 1milion.

Not only that but the longer they're under the sun the closer to the sun the stronger they get. So not only will they be getting stronger though the sun as time goes on but through training. Not to mention that scene from I think it was Final Crisis where an alternate Superman had all these abilities and said that main Superman could do it too if he just learned. Which training would do.

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@comicvinero:

Says a lot about you if you honestly fell for that pseudo logic of his. Not only is his point about "Godly-ki" a lie (numerous reasons, listed a few above); the potential abilities he could have are extremly rare (like less than 1%). If we are talking factually (ironic since this is about fictional characters) the average Asgardian is fodder for the average (yellow sun infused) Kriptonian. Why you'd trust someone with a username containing the word Asgardian not to be biased is beyond me.

It´s because their god abbilities like thunder, war, etc.. increases his abbilities, plus gadgets he can beat a supersaiyan supe

Imagine a godly genkidama (spirit bomb)

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#47 Posted by serpinethegreen (5164 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman:

Absolutely, and IIRC KI is used as an amplifier (Goku couldn't lift 40 tons during the cell arc IIRC); if you used ki to amplify attacks from a Kriptonian, it would be monstrous.

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#48 Posted by Lejon (2946 posts) - - Show Bio

Well wouldn't gokus kid have godly ki.

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#49 Posted by Gunada (197 posts) - - Show Bio

A fodder Saiyan would destroy a planet full of kriptonians, it's irrelevant how strong they are compared to the other 2, asgardians would be the best for their godly life force, potential for magic and mystical energies, and unlike kriptonians they don't need to hold their breath in space.

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#50 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (31807 posts) - - Show Bio

An average kryptonian physiology under yellow sun seems to be a lot better than average asgardian. And kryptonian powerset with saiyan's constant increase in power level would be crazy.

If we took the iconic duo, thor will benefit far, far more from goku's combat speed and training to use it than superman, who already uses speed to some extent..