Saitama vs Vegeta

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#451 Posted by ShuraGam (438 posts) - - Show Bio

@takenstew22: No he wasn't, people much weaker than him could already blow up the moon.

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#452 Posted by TakenStew22 (5920 posts) - - Show Bio

@shuragam: Yeah I know. I still support the argument that Saiyan Saga Vegeta is atleast planet level.

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#453 Posted by ShuraGam (438 posts) - - Show Bio

@takenstew22: That's what I think. Saitama might be able to hurt Vegeta to some extent, but as soon as he gets pissed and uses Galick Gun, Saitama is done.

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#454 Posted by JOVIOLMA (8051 posts) - - Show Bio

Vegeta stomps, he is easily Moon Level + and since Saitama was just here to a fight a villain he has no knowledge and it's in character, he will likely try to tank Vegeta's attacks and will be one shot.

@emperorthanos- Mismatch, Saitama is in character and is completely normal for SS Vegeta to attack his enemies with Ki Blasts and he don't have feats proving he would resist Vegeta's blasts or TK that can even kill Moon Level Characters

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#455 Posted by AlexTheBoss (19641 posts) - - Show Bio

@joviolma: How is this a mismatch? If anything it's a mismatch in the other direction considering the scenario in the OP. Saitama could kill Vegeta with one serious punch. Vegeta was almost killed by being thrown into the ground really fast, Saitama was kicked to the moon and took no damage. Saitama punched away a planetary attack with just the shockwave of one punch, and he can spam those.

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#456 Posted by Eobard21 (6433 posts) - - Show Bio

Saitama

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#457 Posted by JOVIOLMA (8051 posts) - - Show Bio

@joviolma: How is this a mismatch?

Cuz Saitama lacks any feats proving he could tank blasts even from BoZ Piccolo, let alone Vegeta

If anything it's a mismatch in the other direction considering the scenario in the OP. Saitama could kill Vegeta with one serious punch.

He is physically stronger that's obviously but giving the conditions here is high unlikely since according to the OP Saitama is IC and we know that under those conditions is completely normal for him to try to tank his opponents blasts just like he do almost all the time, in a similar way he did against Boros's beam.

  • In character
  • Vegeta has come to conquer Earth. Saitama is here to defeat a rutinary enemy

Vegeta was almost killed by being thrown into the ground really fast, Saitama was kicked to the moon and took no damage.

Is not like Saitama will start using Mountain Level punches on Vegeta right off the bait, he never did anything like that against Boros or other people until see how powerful they are, if he really do this, Vegeta even severely hurt can simple counter with a Ki blast, which Saitama would just stand there try to tank.

Saitama punched away a planetary attack with just the shockwave of one punch, and he can spam those.

He never did such a thing, Boros's CSRC is only Multi-Continental following his statement and the Official Encyclopedia statement, even a Moon buster beam would be far above Boros's attack.

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#458 Posted by FireStarLord73194 (5796 posts) - - Show Bio

IMO this is close. At best vegeta in the saiyan saga is planet level, with every ounce of ki he can muster. Saitamas serious punch at bare minimum is stronger than a planet surface wiping attack since he overpowered Boros’ collapsing star cannon with it. But unlike vegeta that wasn’t all his power, at the end of the battle Boros acknowledged that saitama was still holding back significantly. And unlike DBZ characters Saitama doesn’t have to waste time powering up. So while Vegeta May be able to dish out stronger attacks it will take time to do so, and by then he could get hit with a serious punch. Granted vegeta could probably survive one, but if saitama went all out and did say 100 of those punches I don’t see vegeta getting back up. Saitama has better speed and endurance to make up for whatever strength and power advantage vegeta has. Saitama wins but it’ll be hard

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#459 Posted by TakenStew22 (5920 posts) - - Show Bio

This isn't a mismatch. It could honestly go either way.

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#460 Posted by AlexTheBoss (19641 posts) - - Show Bio

@joviolma:

Cuz Saitama lacks any feats proving he could tank blasts even from BoZ Piccolo, let alone Vegeta

Boros's attack was stated to be planet level and was confirmed in the guide. Even if we go with the planet surface statement from the manga Saitama could still casually no sell it.

He was kicked to the moon and casually jumped back while holding back and left a country sized crater.

He is physically stronger that's obviously but giving the conditions here is high unlikely since according to the OP Saitama is IC and we know that under those conditions is completely normal for him to try to tank his opponents blasts just like he do almost all the time, in a similar way he did against Boros's beam.

Vegeta's beam should be about equal to Boros'. Both are stated to be planetary but are featless besides that, though Boros' actually split clouds that covered a country, so you could argue his has better feats.

Is not like Saitama will start using Mountain Level punches on Vegeta right off the bait, he never did anything like that against Boros or other people until see how powerful they are, if he really do this, Vegeta even severely hurt can simple counter with a Ki blast, which Saitama would just stand there try to tank.

Boros was saved by his armor in the first punch, and his regeneration saved him the other times.

He never did such a thing, Boros's CSRC is only Multi-Continental following his statement and the Official Encyclopedia statement, even a Moon buster beam would be far above Boros's attack.

Pretty sure the official encylopedia said it was planet level. Only the manga said it was planet surface level from what I've seen, and that isn't even the original material. Not to mention the guy who does the manga said Saitama could probably destroy the Earth with one punch if he really wanted to when he was asked.

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#461 Posted by GentlemanTopHat (1122 posts) - - Show Bio

@joviolma said:

Vegeta stomps, he is easily Moon Level + and since Saitama was just here to a fight a villain he has no knowledge and it's in character, he will likely try to tank Vegeta's attacks and will be one shot.

@emperorthanos- Mismatch, Saitama is in character and is completely normal for SS Vegeta to attack his enemies with Ki Blasts and he don't have feats proving he would resist Vegeta's blasts or TK that can even kill Moon Level Characters

Saiyan saga Vegeta who is being use here is planet level not Moon Level as he oneshoted a planet for fun on his way to Earth because he's a dick

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#462 Posted by WorldofRuin6 (4372 posts) - - Show Bio

Saitama low-mid diff. He has the durability to tank most of Vegeta's blasts, he's faster, and he has a massive physical advantage.

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#463 Posted by JOVIOLMA (8051 posts) - - Show Bio

Boros's attack was stated to be planet level and was confirmed in the guide.

Nope, Boros's CSRC is confirmed to be Multi-Continental only, Manga and Official Encyclopedia confirm this, he is only confirmed to be Planet Level in the anime only and OP is not saying anime feats are allowed, by anime feats Vegeta would stomps with low difficult since he can use Ki shields to protect himself and can easily turn planets into dust with a casual attack, also King Vegeta's Multi Planetary feat which he casually spam, which already give us a notion of how powerful Anime/Manga SS Vegeta's blast are.

He was kicked to the moon and casually jumped back while holding back and left a country sized crater.

This is strength feat though and a durability against blunt force, not really comparable to Moon Level attacks tbh.

Even if we go with the planet surface statement from the manga Saitama could still casually no sell it.

There is a massive difference between Multi-Continental Level and being tens of times above persons that can vaporize Moons

Vegeta's beam should be about equal to Boros'.

Nope, definitely not, Boros is Multi-Continental, even BoZ Piccolo is Moon Level, Vegeta is far above this, we are using the Manga feats here not what was said in the anime, in the Manga Boros is said to be MC and this is supported by Databook's statement and by his threat Level.

Both are stated to be planetary but are featless besides that though Boros' actually split clouds that covered a country, so you could argue his has better feats.

I don't think Vegeta is Planetary at all but I do think his attack would destroy massive portions of the Planet which would result in it's destruction after a few time.

Boros was saved by his armor in the first punch, and his regeneration saved him the other times.

I'm aware but that's not what I was really talking about, plus, this fight depends how much strength Saitama will put in his initial punches, if he starts with the weak ones, if Vegeta fail to damage him physically he will resort to Ki blasts.

Pretty sure the official encylopedia said it was planet level.

No, it said his attack can shave/erase/ruin the Earth, not necessarily destroys, plus, if he was Planetary he would blow up the planet and kill everyone which would make him a God Level threat, in the end, the heroes are mostly humans and need air to survive like Saitama, but he is confirmed to be Dragon Threat only, meaning he can destroy humanity.

https://imgur.com/a/26i9Mxs

災害レベル: 竜 = Disaster level : Dragon

In the bottom left corner it says

"Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon: Erase/Shave the Earth. The roar of despair!!

The Kanji Means shave or erase, not necessarily means that the Planet will be destroyed, and the fact that he is listed as a Dragon Level Threat, only proves the point that he can't destroy the Earth.

削る- remove something from the surface(Not Planet Busting)-Shave something

破滅- ruin; destruction; fall​, The fact that Boros is a DL Threat supports the notion that the correct statement is Ruin, that means, Ruins the Earth, he is not Planetary.

https://jisho.org/search/%E7%A0%B4%E6%BB%85

Only the manga said it was planet surface level from what I've seen

Encyclopedia as well.

and that isn't even the original material.

How is Manga or OE not Original Material ?

Not to mention the guy who does the manga said Saitama could probably destroy the Earth with one punch if he really wanted to when he was asked.

He said probably, plus IIRC it was Murata who said that not ONE, so until then, we need to wait for an actual Planet Buster to appears in the manga.

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#464 Posted by TheDeathstar (4489 posts) - - Show Bio

Saitama is slightly above Vegeta physically whereas D.C Wise Vegeta is way beyond Saitama could hope to be as of now. If Saitama gets hit by a Garlick Gun (Keep in mind a damaged and weakened Vegeta was about to destroy Planet Earth) now a fully healed and undamaged one can do a lot. Anime wise he already one shot an entire Planet of people. Manga and guides already state them being at least Planetary (Earth is also a puny planet considered by someone like Frieza) so it's not a stretch to say that plus Vegeta can always go Great Ape which is beyond Ginyu level.

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#465 Edited by pmcinelly784 (1133 posts) - - Show Bio

Hm we've seen a couple of dragon level threats in OPM but none seem to hold a bone against Boros.

Also to correct, Dragon level refers to the Hero's Association designation for any threat to multiple cities, in which boros shouldn't be under this category, but under the category of God level due to the fact that his final attack could wipe the surface of the earth (which qualifies for god level) (PS: God level constitutes a threat to the survival of humanity)

Putting Boros on the level of Goeketsu (who was 1 shot) or Elder Centepide (who was also 1 shot) is a little unfair.

I think it's also important to look at consistency with everything else, was vegeta casually blowing up moons or was it a 1 time feat? Was boros always firing off planet wiping attacks, or was it a 1 time feat?

Whatever the case, the fact that saitama could negate a planet wiping attack and have the force of the attack go through to destroy the body of Boros, as well as make the clouds part for like a sixth of the earths surface is relatively impressive for a SINGLE punch. God knows what would happen if he threw multiple

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#466 Posted by AlexTheBoss (19641 posts) - - Show Bio

@joviolma:

Nope, Boros's CSRC is confirmed to be Multi-Continental only, Manga and Official Encyclopedia confirm this, he is only confirmed to be Planet Level in the anime only and OP is not saying anime feats are allowed, by anime feats Vegeta would stomps with low difficult since he can use Ki shields to protect himself and can easily turn planets into dust with a casual attack, also King Vegeta's Multi Planetary feat which he casually spam, which already give us a notion of how powerful Anime/Manga SS Vegeta's blast are.

The manga of dragon ball is only more canon because it came from Toriyama. If we go by that logic the webcomic for OPM would be the most canon, and I believe the attack is straight up called planet busting canon, at least in the translation I saw.

Nope, definitely not, Boros is Multi-Continental, even BoZ Piccolo is Moon Level, Vegeta is far above this, we are using the Manga feats here not what was said in the anime, in the Manga Boros is said to be MC and this is supported by Databook's statement and by his threat Level.

Krillin with a power level of over 10,000 was impressed by this crater and planet warping power.

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I don't think Vegeta is Planetary at all but I do think his attack would destroy massive portions of the Planet which would result in it's destruction after a few time.

I agree. But only his galic gun is on that level, while any type of strong punch from Saitama would wreck Vegeta.

No, it said his attack can shave/erase/ruin the Earth, not necessarily destroys, plus, if he was Planetary he would blow up the planet and kill everyone which would make him a God Level threat, in the end, the heroes are mostly humans and need air to survive like Saitama, but he is confirmed to be Dragon Threat only, meaning he can destroy humanity.

Didn't the writers change their mind and later call him a god threat on par with monster Garou?

How is Manga or OE not Original Material ?

One's web comic is the original material.

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#467 Posted by AlexTheBoss (19641 posts) - - Show Bio

@joviolma said:

Vegeta stomps, he is easily Moon Level + and since Saitama was just here to a fight a villain he has no knowledge and it's in character, he will likely try to tank Vegeta's attacks and will be one shot.

@emperorthanos- Mismatch, Saitama is in character and is completely normal for SS Vegeta to attack his enemies with Ki Blasts and he don't have feats proving he would resist Vegeta's blasts or TK that can even kill Moon Level Characters

Saiyan saga Vegeta who is being use here is planet level not Moon Level as he oneshoted a planet for fun on his way to Earth because he's a dick

That's a filler feet, but if that feat is used he should be small planet level at the very least.