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Saitama vs Naruto
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Saitama doesn't seem to have any weaknesses. His strength and durability as well as speed is on par with Naruto imo.
Saitama still wins, but unlike some people are saying:
1- There's no proof that the tenseigan barrier could withstand the impact between the moon and the earth, that was just a statement without information to back it up
2- There's no proof that Boros is a planet buster, that was just a statement, at his best we can say that he is a multi-mountain buster seeing the damage that he inflicted on the ship.
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Imo saitaman just has more raw speed and power than naruto. Much, much more, and therefore should dodge naruto's attacks and win
About genjustu, only naruto characters have chakara (which is needed for genjutsu). There was no tree of chakara in the one punch man show
@cosmic_lantern: saitama bites it
Saitama doesn't seem to have any weaknesses. His strength and durability as well as speed is on par with Naruto imo.
Saitama doesn't appear to have any weaknesses yet (at least, in One Punch Man), but that doesn't mean that he doesn't have any. :)
@cosmic_lantern: saitama bites it
Cellular level resistance feats, please and thankyou.
@cosmic_lantern: saitama bites it
Cellular level resistance feats, please and thankyou.
lol the guy literally resisted a beam that vaporizes creatures and durable metals on the spot.
@cosmic_lantern: saitama bites it
Cellular level resistance feats, please and thankyou.
lol the guy literally resisted a beam that vaporizes creatures and durable metals on the spot.
So intense heat = cellular cutting attack?
Naruto by actual feats.
For God's sake, this.
Saying "By actual feats" as if Saitama doesn't have any feats is
1. Annoying.
2. False.
Mainly because Naruto has never tanked any physical attacks on the level of Saitama's nor has he provided evidence that he could at least go to the moon an back in 19 seconds.
Speed and Str advantage, if large enough, makes you win entire fights even in the Naruverse. It's the reason Guy was beating up on Madara. It's the reason Raikage was beating up on Saskue. It's the reason Rock Lee was beating up on Gaara until PIS kicked in and forced him to lose because he would've went around stomping everyone else. It's the reason Taijutsu is considered a weakness.
Saitama has physical feats that trump anyone's in the show. The dude made a shockwave almost half the size of the moon, preformed a multi-continental punch that canceled out a surface wiping beam, the wind from his punch could cave an entire mountain range, his punches part the clouds and stop rain, his speed is higher than a guy who could vaporize everything around him by moving, and create over 6 afterimages before rocks even had a chance to fall down.
Highest striking feats in the show come from Guy, and if he used Night Moth on Naruto's head Naruto would die.
I'm pretty sure the best thing Naruto tanked was a beam that knocked him out of golden form, and all it did was cut a hollowed out moon in half. Or when his chakra exploded on him and he went in a coma for 3 days.
Unless you got something new for me to learn about Naruto.
Also every Saitama feat has been casual thus far. Only way I see Naruto winning this is if he seals Saitama with Magnet Release. Which isn't even really in character, but I do say that it would win him the fight if it were to connect, which is highly doubtful anyways.
I'm not sure if you understand how good of a durability feat being kicked into the moon at speeds that rival light without taking any damage at all is.
Try and imagine N-52 Supes being punched into the moon at lightspeed without taking any damage at all. You realize it's not possible because he's been hurt by far less, and if you think that Naruto can damage Superman I guess I can see where you're coming from with thinking that Naruto would win, lol.
@cosmic_lantern: saitama bites it
Cellular level resistance feats, please and thankyou.
lol the guy literally resisted a beam that vaporizes creatures and durable metals on the spot.
So intense heat = cellular cutting attack?
Molecular>Cellular. You asked for cellular level resistance feats, when Saitama has Molecular resistance feats.
He resisted being accelerated to almost lightspeed in earths atmoshere (NOT in vaccum) without a scratch and then hit the moon with that speed.
Amospheric reentry speed of a space shuttle is about 20000 mph. Saitama was accelerated to 220.000.000 mph. (third of light speed as he reached the moon in about 3 seconds, light needs 1.3)
Saitama doesn't seem to have any weaknesses. His strength and durability as well as speed is on par with Naruto imo.
Saitama doesn't appear to have any weaknesses yet (at least, in One Punch Man), but that doesn't mean that he doesn't have any. :)
For the purposes of this battle, he doesn't have one.
Saitama doesn't seem to have any weaknesses. His strength and durability as well as speed is on par with Naruto imo.
Saitama doesn't appear to have any weaknesses yet (at least, in One Punch Man), but that doesn't mean that he doesn't have any. :)
For the purposes of this battle, he doesn't have one.
So are you saying Saitama is invulnerable in this fight?
Then whats the purpose of this thread when one cannot be hurt at all.
Saitama doesn't seem to have any weaknesses. His strength and durability as well as speed is on par with Naruto imo.
Saitama doesn't appear to have any weaknesses yet (at least, in One Punch Man), but that doesn't mean that he doesn't have any. :)
For the purposes of this battle, he doesn't have one.
So are you saying Saitama is invulnerable in this fight?
Then whats the purpose of this thread when one cannot be hurt at all.
Invulnerability features multiple different levels of resilience, but it does have a ceiling. What degree of invulnerability are we talking about here? I don't want to presume.
Saitama doesn't seem to have any weaknesses. His strength and durability as well as speed is on par with Naruto imo.
Saitama doesn't appear to have any weaknesses yet (at least, in One Punch Man), but that doesn't mean that he doesn't have any. :)
For the purposes of this battle, he doesn't have one.
So are you saying Saitama is invulnerable in this fight?
Then whats the purpose of this thread when one cannot be hurt at all.
Invulnerability features multiple different levels of resilience, but it does have a ceiling. What degree of invulnerability are we talking about here? I don't want to presume.
If you don't treat it as a hyperbole , he is resisting black hole level telekinesis, if it is , it is hitting the moon at near half of lightspeed and suffering zero damage. He is hitting the moon at freaking 220.000.000 mph.
I'm not saying Saitama is invulnerable, but the fact that Boros sent him to the moon without him taking any damage is hard to quantify or argue against
Saitama doesn't seem to have any weaknesses. His strength and durability as well as speed is on par with Naruto imo.
Saitama doesn't appear to have any weaknesses yet (at least, in One Punch Man), but that doesn't mean that he doesn't have any. :)
For the purposes of this battle, he doesn't have one.
So are you saying Saitama is invulnerable in this fight?
Then whats the purpose of this thread when one cannot be hurt at all.
Invulnerability features multiple different levels of resilience, but it does have a ceiling. What degree of invulnerability are we talking about here? I don't want to presume.
If you don't treat it as a hyperbole , he is resisting black hole level telekinesis, if it is , it is hitting the moon at near half of lightspeed and suffering zero damage. He is hitting the moon at freaking 220.000.000 mph.
Not that again.
Before bringing that as argument for Saitama's durability, you should know that characters far weaker than Naruto has go through Lightspeed travel without a single scratch.
This the zoomed version
Third Raikage and Fourth Raikage has tanked that travel which is 2 times faster than Saitama has travelled. Does that mean both Raikages are also invulnerable in your list.
Saitama doesn't seem to have any weaknesses. His strength and durability as well as speed is on par with Naruto imo.
Saitama doesn't appear to have any weaknesses yet (at least, in One Punch Man), but that doesn't mean that he doesn't have any. :)
For the purposes of this battle, he doesn't have one.
So are you saying Saitama is invulnerable in this fight?
Then whats the purpose of this thread when one cannot be hurt at all.
Invulnerability features multiple different levels of resilience, but it does have a ceiling. What degree of invulnerability are we talking about here? I don't want to presume.
If you don't treat it as a hyperbole , he is resisting black hole level telekinesis, if it is , it is hitting the moon at near half of lightspeed and suffering zero damage. He is hitting the moon at freaking 220.000.000 mph.
Not that again.
Before bringing that as argument for Saitama's durability, you should know that characters far weaker than Naruto has go through Lightspeed travel without a single scratch.
This the zoomed version
Third Raikage and Fourth Raikage has tanked that travel which is 2 times faster than Saitama has travelled. Does that mean both Raikages are also invulnerable in your list.
That was not a travel. He was hitting the moon with that speed because he was kicked into it. And your comparison is strange because obviously Mabui has the ability to ensure that her target objects reach their destination save. And it's not that they reach their target unharmed because the can tank hitting a physical object at freaking 600.000.000 mph. Or do you think they do? She could transport a glass of milk too.
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Mabui
Abilities
Mabui possessed a unique technique that allows her to transfer matter over long distances at the speed of light. It was for this technique that she was made the Raikage's assistant.[2]
That ability of hers seems to be like the transporter in star trek. And no the guys and ladies in Star Trek are not tanking hitting the moon at 220.000.000 mph either. You don't seem to understand what a feat that actually is to hit a object at that speed.
Actually Mabui's technique was to send objects not human. Human would just shred to nothing if they use on one, only shinobi that was manage to survive this transfer was Third.
Tsunade was forcef to use her mitotic regeneration so this technique doesn't have any special allowance for safety of the object but to rely on their durability.
And about hitting moon, Tsunade and Ay also kick and punched Tsuchikage and Madara at that speed yet it didn't cause any damage on either side.
So comparision is analogous to each other.
Point is people far weaker than Naruto and Sasuke has done survive greater speed than what Saitama has done. I won't called that invulnerability you defined for Saitama is really a invulnerability against the opponent like Naruto. If thats the only thing going for Saitama being invulnerable then I have to say thats really a poor showing and is invalid.
^Do you believe what you are saying or are you making it up as you go along? in either case it's rather sad you wasted your time, so much effort into a worthless,meaningless,narutard wanking post. if they could move at the speed of the technique that moves at the Speed of light, why the fuk are they using the technique that moves at the speed of light u ****.
not to mention, in the very same manga pages you linked, its referred to as TELEPORTATION.
Actually Mabui's technique was to send objects not human. Human would just shred to nothing if they use on one, only shinobi that was manage to survive this transfer was Third.
Tsunade was forcef to use her mitotic regeneration so this technique doesn't have any special allowance for safety of the object but to rely on their durability.
And about hitting moon, Tsunade and Ay also kick and punched Tsuchikage and Madara at that speed yet it didn't cause any damage on either side.
So comparision is analogous to each other.
Point is people far weaker than Naruto and Sasuke has done survive greater speed than what Saitama has done. I won't called that invulnerability you defined for Saitama is really a invulnerability against the opponent like Naruto. If thats the only thing going for Saitama being invulnerable then I have to say thats really a poor showing and is invalid.
I don't understand the comparison with Tsunade and Ay. But it seems to me that the technique of Mabui seems just to be faulty teleportion , because flesh of steel and blood like iron is getting you nowhere when you accelerate to 220.000.000 mph in earths atmosphere and then hit the moon with it. Both is going to melt in less then a second.
And most important if it was actually really putting the strain of lightspeed acceleration on a object, wouldn't her technique be useless because any object would break? or could it be that you have no idea what happens to a object if it gets accelerated to 200.000.000 mph in the atmosphere instantly?
I don't understand the comparison with Tsunade and Ay. But it seems to me that the technique of Mabui seems just to be faulty teleportion , because flesh of steel and blood like iron is getting you nowhere when you accelerate to 220.000.000 mph in earths atmosphere and then hit the moon with it. Both is going to melt in less then a second.
And most important if it was actually really putting the strain of lightspeed acceleration on a object, wouldn't her technique be useless because any object would break? or could it be that you have no idea what happens to a object if it gets accelerated to 200.000.000 mph in a instant?
Obvious figure of speech is obvious...
It was stated the technique cannot send humans because their bodies would be torn to pieces from the speed :
The objects Mabui sends with her jutsu are the sage's legendary tools. AKA tools created with reality warping.
And why is it that you only comment on this now ? Didn't it ever occur to you before how DBZ characters could move at the speed of light without wrecking the entire planet ? How most characters can move at supersonic speeds without creating sonic booms or hypersonic speed without being set on fire ? How Saitama could by kicked from Earth to Moon and only leaving a small crater on impact ? How he could jump back without causing a massive fire ball blast and destroy everything within Kilometers ? How DBZ characters could live in their planet completely fine even though their moon got destroyed ? Don't question Manga logic, bruh.
I don't understand the comparison with Tsunade and Ay. But it seems to me that the technique of Mabui seems just to be faulty teleportion , because flesh of steel and blood like iron is getting you nowhere when you accelerate to 220.000.000 mph in earths atmosphere and then hit the moon with it. Both is going to melt in less then a second.
And most important if it was actually really putting the strain of lightspeed acceleration on a object, wouldn't her technique be useless because any object would break? or could it be that you have no idea what happens to a object if it gets accelerated to 200.000.000 mph in a instant?
Obvious figure of speech is obvious...
It was stated the technique cannot send humans because their bodies would be torn to pieces from the speed :
The objects Mabui sends with her jutsu are the sage's legendary tools. AKA tools created with reality warping.
And why is it that you only comment on this now ? Didn't it ever occur to you before how DBZ characters could move at the speed of light without wrecking the entire planet ? How most characters can move at supersonic speeds without creating sonic booms or hypersonic speed without being set on fire ? How Saitama could by kicked from Earth to Moon and only leaving a small crater on impact ? How he could jump back without causing a massive fire ball blast and destroy everything within Kilometers ? How DBZ characters could live in their planet completely fine even though their moon got destroyed ? Don't question Manga logic, bruh.
It wasn't me who was actually trying to compare a actual kick to the moon with being transported by a tool with reality warping powers as you described it. It seems that inanimate objects no matter how delicate can all be transported with the tool just fine?
Then why even compare the durabilty of things transported with being kicked to the moon, because that's exactly what the guy you are defending is doing.
And Saitma is causing massive destruction when he jumped of the moon. Each of the rocks in this scan would bury a city.
It wasn't me who was actually trying to compare a actual kick to the moon with being transported by a tool with reality warping powers as you described it. It seems that inanimate objects no matter how delicate can all be transported with the tool just fine?
I know it isn't, but you are the one who tried to interpret the figure of speech "as hard as steel" literally. And you misread, I said that the objects she sends are the sages legendary tools which he created with "creation of all thing" that's a reality warping jutsu, not that Mabui uses reality warping to send stuff.
It wasn't me who was actually trying to compare a actual kick to the moon with being transported by a tool with reality warping powers as you described it. It seems that inanimate objects no matter how delicate can all be transported with the tool just fine?
I know it isn't, but you are the one who tried to interpret the figure of speech "as hard as steel" literally. And you misread, I said that the objects she sends are the sages legendary tools which he created with "creation of all thing" that's a reality warping jutsu, not that Mabui uses reality warping to send stuff.
I only used that hard as steel stuff, because he was showing the scan as if having flesh as steel would be the same level of durability. But it was most likely a mistake on my part, i shouldn't iterpret it literally.
It wasn't me who was actually trying to compare a actual kick to the moon with being transported by a tool with reality warping powers as you described it. It seems that inanimate objects no matter how delicate can all be transported with the tool just fine?
I know it isn't, but you are the one who tried to interpret the figure of speech "as hard as steel" literally. And you misread, I said that the objects she sends are the sages legendary tools which he created with "creation of all thing" that's a reality warping jutsu, not that Mabui uses reality warping to send stuff.
I only used that hard as steel stuff, because he was showing the scan as if having flesh as steel would be the same level of durability. But it was most likely a mistake on my part.
I see.
I didn't notice the edit, I'll address it here :
Then why even compare the durabilty of things transported with being kicked to the moon, because that's exactly what the guy you are defending is doing.
My argument has nothing to do with that. I'm not sure what the previous arguments the other side was providing were but my point is that stuff like friction and collateral damage is not necessarily taken into account in fiction.
And Saitma is causing massive destruction when he jumped of the moon. Each of the rocks in this scan would bury a city.
Doesn't change anything to my previous points.
My argument has nothing to do with that. I'm not sure what the previous arguments the other side was providing were but my point is that stuff like friction and collateral damage is not necessarily taken into account in fiction.
.True! And if it is , it's often in a really stupid way like gokus universe buster waves.
My argument has nothing to do with that. I'm not sure what the previous arguments the other side was providing were but my point is that stuff like friction and collateral damage is not necessarily taken into account in fiction.
.True! And if it is , it's often in a really stupid way like gokus universe buster waves.
That's true. Glad you agree. :)
Actually Mabui's technique was to send objects not human. Human would just shred to nothing if they use on one, only shinobi that was manage to survive this transfer was Third.
Tsunade was forcef to use her mitotic regeneration so this technique doesn't have any special allowance for safety of the object but to rely on their durability.
And about hitting moon, Tsunade and Ay also kick and punched Tsuchikage and Madara at that speed yet it didn't cause any damage on either side.
So comparision is analogous to each other.
Point is people far weaker than Naruto and Sasuke has done survive greater speed than what Saitama has done. I won't called that invulnerability you defined for Saitama is really a invulnerability against the opponent like Naruto. If thats the only thing going for Saitama being invulnerable then I have to say thats really a poor showing and is invalid.
I don't understand the comparison with Tsunade and Ay. But it seems to me that the technique of Mabui seems just to be faulty teleportion , because flesh of steel and blood like iron is getting you nowhere when you accelerate to 220.000.000 mph in earths atmosphere and then hit the moon with it. Both is going to melt in less then a second.
And most important if it was actually really putting the strain of lightspeed acceleration on a object, wouldn't her technique be useless because any object would break? or could it be that you have no idea what happens to a object if it gets accelerated to 200.000.000 mph in the atmosphere instantly?
Hey why are you using real life logic for everything a fiction shows? In fiction falsh has gone FTL.
And about the comparison, I only did that coz you were arguing that Saitama was invulnerable coz he has survived being accelerated at half the speed of light, as you can see people far weaker than Naruto has also survive being accelerated at light speed I want you to understand that argument of yours is not really valid.
If you still want to use that invulnerability argument of Saitama again, I simply want to remind you that low tier people in Naruto also has that kind of invulnerability.
For me its a fiction not rocket science, things happens like Flash going FTL which is simply not possible by real life logic. So its better that we don't go that side of pure physics and accept its a fiction, funny stuff happens.
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@iusemycajonas: I couldnt agree more on your points about Saitama vs. Superman durability. I am truly shocked that people say Saitama has no feats. It's literally the definition of "confirmation bias". Ignore all the available evidence so you can try to support a false statement. He has more feats than 99% of villains or even popular characters who get used here all the time.
Example: One time someone told me he had no feats compared to N52 Black Adam. Seriously, please find me something for New 52 Black Adam. I believe he has been in like 25 books, most of those as a supporting role. In WW3 he killed a bunch of fodder then lost to Captain Marvel.
Saitama is in over 100 webcomics, 60 manga comics, and 12 anime episodes, with like 25 kills on city+ level baddies with no losses.
Jesus could the hypocrisy be more astounding? Not saying Saitama automatically wins that fight, just thay saying he has no feats while backing N52 Black Adam is a little much IMO.
@purple_d_dragon: So much for Naruto's moon level durability then....
I don't particularly dislike Naruto, and I do not gain pleasure by debunking his light speed and moon level feats, but the wanking in this site from new users who kiss Naruto's ass so much is annoying.
Question what do you think of this?
http://joke-battles.wikia.com/wiki/Naruto_Uzumaki_(Wanked)
Actually Mabui's technique was to send objects not human. Human would just shred to nothing if they use on one, only shinobi that was manage to survive this transfer was Third.
Tsunade was forcef to use her mitotic regeneration so this technique doesn't have any special allowance for safety of the object but to rely on their durability.
And about hitting moon, Tsunade and Ay also kick and punched Tsuchikage and Madara at that speed yet it didn't cause any damage on either side.
So comparision is analogous to each other.
Point is people far weaker than Naruto and Sasuke has done survive greater speed than what Saitama has done. I won't called that invulnerability you defined for Saitama is really a invulnerability against the opponent like Naruto. If thats the only thing going for Saitama being invulnerable then I have to say thats really a poor showing and is invalid.
I don't understand the comparison with Tsunade and Ay. But it seems to me that the technique of Mabui seems just to be faulty teleportion , because flesh of steel and blood like iron is getting you nowhere when you accelerate to 220.000.000 mph in earths atmosphere and then hit the moon with it. Both is going to melt in less then a second.
And most important if it was actually really putting the strain of lightspeed acceleration on a object, wouldn't her technique be useless because any object would break? or could it be that you have no idea what happens to a object if it gets accelerated to 200.000.000 mph in the atmosphere instantly?
Hey why are you using real life logic for everything a fiction shows? In fiction falsh has gone FTL.
And about the comparison, I only did that coz you were arguing that Saitama was invulnerable coz he has survived being accelerated at half the speed of light, as you can see people far weaker than Naruto has also survive being accelerated at light speed I want you to understand that argument of yours is not really valid.
If you still want to use that invulnerability argument of Saitama again, I simply want to remind you that low tier people in Naruto also has that kind of invulnerability.
For me its a fiction not rocket science, things happens like Flash going FTL which is simply not possible by real life logic. So its better that we don't go that side of pure physics and accept its a fiction, funny stuff happens.
Actually where did I say that he is invulnerable in that posting? Someone asked for his durability feats and I said: Black hole with statement , being accelerated to 200.000.000 in earths atmosphere and hitting the moon without statement.Because that's exactly what happened in the anime. I used that Saitama gets his feats taken away because they are just statements, but now he can't even use the most obvious feats?
You used a comparison with something that works complety different. Who knows how the power of the Raikage assistant works? Obviously she can transport non living objects just fine, so I doubt that it's really like being hit to the moon.
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