Saitama vs Meliodas and Escanor

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Poll Saitama vs Meliodas and Escanor (165 votes)

Saitama 75%
Melodias and Escanor 8%
Stalemate 0%
Lemme see votes cuz I have no idea 7%
Batman with prep 10%

Rules:

Anime Saitama, no manga/comic feats

Meliodas Assault and Escanor The One

Team is bloodlusted and with morals off

Saitama is in character

Fight takes place at 12:00 o'clock on New York (no popilation)

Fight to the death!!

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They die.

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#2  Edited By Zokologue

It's been a long time we didn't have a saitama thread.

this forum was recently flooded with naruto threads.

Anyway, i think saitama can take both of them easily.

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In character Saitama loses.

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Anyone reach life wiping yet in SDS?

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#6  Edited By vooon

Team is bloodlusted and with morals off

Saitama is in character

Saitama will play with them until he notices that they are damaging the surroundings too much and then he'll be forced to shut both of them off

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@vooon: He dies pretty fast with this conditions.

No heat resistance at this level and no soul manipulation resistance.

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@kamishini: He can survive re-entry at percents of light speed, calc'ing the temperatures is beyond my forte but I would imagine that it would yield numbers in the millions of degrees fahrenheit.

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@trueaustralian:

Was that heat showed? To my knowledge no.

And that's still below Escanor and Mel. Let's not forget soul manipulation that's GG.

Millions of degrees seems an enormous exaggeration btw.

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@kamishini:

Was that heat showed? To my knowledge no.

Yes as this 250 - 500m wide ring of superheated metal shows.

No Caption Provided

Millions of degrees seems an enormous exaggeration btw.

Not really, at those velocities air molecules would be shoved into each other with such force and in such minuscule time frames that they actually fuse. This would create conditions similar to a continuous nuclear reaction trapped in front of Saitama as he moves through the atmosphere.

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@trueaustralian: The pic doesn't show what you are stating.

Not really. I've searched it and I've found that it doesn't surpass 3000.

Escanor and Mel heat is a good deal above nukes btw.

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#12  Edited By TrueAustralian

@kamishini:

The pic doesn't show what you are stating.

It shows exactly what I stated, a ring of super-heated alien spaceship metal made by Saitama's landing after re-entry.

Not really. I've searched it and I've found that it doesn't surpass 3000.

its 3,000 degrees when moving at mach 7 when re-entering, Saitama was traveling at mach 55393.586 at minimum. The energy and temperatures at those velocities have nothing to do with mach 7 re-entry speeds.

Escanor and Mel heat is a good deal above nukes btw.

Hotter than 65 million degree's farhenheit? Is this stated or are you assuming base on effect of environment?

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@trueaustralian:

There is no ring or super heated metal.

Any proof? For both your claims?

They have better feats, aka better effects on the environment. Also keep in mind that nukes reach that level of heat only for an instant.

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#14  Edited By vooon

It looks like it became more of a fight between Batman and Saitama lmao

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#15  Edited By TrueAustralian

@kamishini:

There is no ring or super heated metal.

No Caption Provided

Any proof? For both your claims?

Sorry mach 7 was mistaken, its more like mach 25. And the fastest object to ever re-enter our breach an atmosphere was traveling at almost mach 140, reaching temperatures of above 28,000 degree's farhenheit. As for Saitama's velocity, it takes him roughly 20 seconds from when he leaves the moon to when he lands on Boros ship. 380,000 Kilometers per 20 seconds = 19,000 kilometers per second or mach 55,000.

Also keep in mind that nukes reach that level of heat only for an instant.

Nukes only maintain that temperature for brief moments because the reaction is not continuous, if the reaction were continuous it would be that hot for as long as the reaction played out.

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Saitama should still win.

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@trueaustralian: I mean you could consider that a ring, but where is the super heated metal?

So calcs?

I know, doesn't change what I stated.

Btw why do you keep ignoring the parts that would make Saitama lose? Like soul manip and how hot their heat actually is.

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#18  Edited By TrueAustralian

@kamishini:

I mean you could consider that a ring, but where is the super heated metal?

Its more noticeable while animated, but the ring is the metal, it cools from white back to purple/blackish as the scene continues.

So calcs?

Calc's for what, I've already admitted that atmospheric re-entry at those velocities are beyond my ability to calculate. You would likely need to consult a particle physicist if you wanted a calc attempt.

I know, doesn't change what I stated.

Which was, what again?

Btw why do you keep ignoring the parts that would make Saitama lose? Like soul manip and how hot their heat actually is.

I'm not familiar with soul manip powers, I only address the part I am familiar with, apologies.

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Saitama stomps.

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#20  Edited By TrueAustralian

Actually, here is a dumb attempt at a calc. I'm just going to scale the numbers off the Galileo probe compared to Saitama's velocities. If mach 140 = 28,000 farhenheit, and mach 140 is 1/392'nd of mach 55,000, than 28,000 x 392 = 11,000,000 million degree's farhenheit.

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@trueaustralian:

I don't remember that, I'll have to re-watch it to be sure. If it's true is not that impressive tbh since it didn't even melt metal.

Calcs for Saitama speed.

That that heat last only for a moment.

I see, no problem. Escanor was able to burn souls with his passive heat (that comes from his body) while Mel like all the other demons in the serie is able to remove one soul and eat it (he normally doesn't do so but here is is moral off and bloodlusted so).

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#22  Edited By TrueAustralian

@kamishini:

I don't remember that, I'll have to re-watch it to be sure. If it's true is not that impressive tbh.

Considering that it required over 1.9 gigatonspetatons of energy to cause that heating, its just an impressive durability feat for Boros Spaceship.

Calcs for Saitama speed.

I already gave you one. 380,000 Kilometers per 20 seconds = 19,000 kilometers per second or mach 55,000.

That that heat last only for a moment.

Ah yes, so I was explaining why that was.

I see, no problem. Escanor was able to burn souls with his passive heat (that comes from his body) while Mel like all the other demons in the serie is able to remove one soul and eat it (he normally doesn't do so but here is is moral off and bloodlusted so).

I don't think burning souls is in any way scientifically quantifiable.

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Saitama beats them with one punch.

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@trueaustralian:

And that has nothing to do with the thread.

I know that's why I said calcs.

Of course isn't scientifically quantifiable..... why are debating manga here....where demons, souls and super power are a thing....

It only means that if you don't have resistance to soul manipulation it's GG.

We don't need a science based explanation for this kind of things.

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Meliodas and Escanor can actually win this.

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#26  Edited By TrueAustralian

@kamishini:

And that has nothing to do with the thread.

It has relation to heat/temperature.

I know that's why I said calcs.

And I gave you some. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Of course isn't scientifically quantifiable..... why are debating manga here....where demons, souls and super power are a thing....

You seem to think its quantifiably hotter than a nuclear reaction, so I assume you have some basis for this other than "lol burns souls"

It only means that if you don't have resistance to soul manipulation it's GG.

We don't need a science based explanation for this kind of things.

Again, I will not address the soul manipulation because I am not familiar with it. I am familiar with heat and its relation to energy however, which is why I addressed it.

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Saitama stomps them.

The verse still dies.

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@trueaustralian:

I know, but we aren't debating for Boros ship here.

Calcs aren't exactly a respectable way to obtain or give info, that's why I pointed it out.

Nope that's not why they are hotter than a nuke. I brought it up to explain his soul manipulation, I has little to do with his heat.

For example melting a massive stone castle by accident in a weaker form. That's something nukes can't do.

This is Saitama vs Escanor & Meliodas. I'm debating for their victory and that's not only thanks to heat.

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@chaos239: Grayroad solo and Saitama in character lose.

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@kamishini: really? When the Planet has been reduced to Rubble and he's chilling on the Moon?

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@chaos239: If he does that Saitam dies and that's it. There are multiple immortals in verse so planet bust would be incap at best.

If he "planet bust" (a thing he can't do as of now btw and even if he could he wouldn't) he would still by effected by his commandment.

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@kamishini:

I know, but we aren't debating for Boros ship here.

No we are discussing the heat/energy resistance of Saitama, and Saitama is the source of the heat/energy that does this to the ship. He tanks it unharmed like always.

Calcs aren't exactly a respectable way to obtain or give info, that's why I pointed it out.

Much better than unbounded assumption.

Nope that's not why they are hotter than a nuke. I brought it up to explain his soul manipulation, I has little to do with his heat.

For example melting a massive stone castle by accident in a weaker form. That's something nukes can't do.

A nuke cannot do that because a nuke radiates stellar level heat only for a brief few microseconds. If that nuke had its full 65 million degree's of heat for a full second or two it could do phenomenal things to our world.

This is Saitama vs Escanor & Meliodas. I'm debating for their victory and that's not only thanks to heat.

Someone else can chime in on that part, I'm solely discussing the heat aspect.

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@trueaustralian: And that level is not impressive as I've stated before.

Doesn't change my statement.

I see.

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Boros would stomp these two, let alone Saitama

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@kamishini: He can, and why wouldn't he when he realises he's on a foreign planet filled with Demons type creature who are all trying to kill him?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/OnePunchMan/comments/5yx4p1/murata_stream_translation_pt6_featuring_few_most/

Can't pdot scnas right now but Murata has said Saitama can planet bust along with multiple Databooks.

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@kamishini: If you don't understand the science behind what I'm talking about don't bother responding.

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#37  Edited By TrueAustralian

@chaos239: Even if he busts the planet, he still cannot survive for extended periods of time in outer space.

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@chaos239: He can't, if not Temari is universal like Madara.

Then why he doesn't do so in his own world? Its basically the same. Kek

Is in his character to chill around and tank almost everything. He would've died against Boros for that if it wasn't for the moon.

Also as I've said above, even if he could he would die too and that wouldn't kill his opponents. He is losing here (IC) let alone the whole verse. Too much hax.

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@god_vulcan: Boros would win handily as of now, but that doesn't mean that Saitama character magically change and he gains resistance to their hax.

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>use only real world science to explain a manga and his feats.

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#41  Edited By Chaos239

@kamishini: So... an uncontradicated statement from a guy who speaks casually to the author and make plot points, numorus Databooks and character statements = The same as Narutos infamously stupid Databooks.

Saitama is a Planet Buster.

Murata has said he could get back iirc.

In-Character he brings out a few normal punches, realises these guys may be Boros and Garou Level and then serious punches them into ash.

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@kamishini: If you wanna talk numbers, you gotta quantify.

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Too soon. They are still a no match for Saitama.

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@trueaustralian: I don't use numbers to quantify a feat. I use the feat itself.

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#45  Edited By HigherPower

@kamishini: Wut? Saitama > Boros.

Meliodas doesn't have any hax abilities. FC, hellblaze and clones are considered versatility and they're worthless here. Escanor is mostly physical too, but Saitama could punch away Cruel Sun.

Both of them die

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#46  Edited By vooon

@chaos239 said:

@kamishini:

In-Character he brings out a few normal punches, realises these guys may be Boros and Garou Level and then serious punches them into ash.

They would just straight up explode after being hit by those normals lol

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@chaos239: Temari is universal in the databook, so your point is moot. I agree Naruto databook is full of hyperbole but it doesn't change that I'm using the same source as you.

Half of OPM databook weren't even wrote from the author.

Any proof that isn't an hyperbole?

He could get back? He can't fly or breath in space, that would've been GG.

Even if he can and planet bust he dies do on contrary of his opponents.

I agree, just:

1) That's not enough to solo the verse, even with current feats.

2) Grayroad solo if he does that.

3) He'll try to tank some attacks before that, so he dies either way.

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@god_vulcan: > doesn't mean he wins here, by any kind of logic especially when he has literally no special ability.

Both have soul manipulation and their heat is above what Saitama tanked.

Boros has several advantages against the duo in comparison with Saitama.

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@trueaustralian: I don't use numbers to quantify a feat. I use the feat itself.

If ricky bouldershack punches a doomgobbler so hard it turns into a chiken (spelt without a c), and I can't quantify what that means in real world terms its a useless feat.

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@kamishini: Once again Naruto Databooks =/= OPM Databooks.

The reason Naruto Databooks are considered Hyperbole is because their characters don't operate on that level. Murata has said he can Planet Bust, Databooks have said so, Boros claimed he could.