@chair-sama: I can deal with debating but being a snarky ass you can put on hold.
nobody here is being snarky. I'm being to the point. 9/10 low showings for comics get marked as "pis" by every comic book fan. but when something similar happens with Anime character *getting hurt by a normal ninja tool as a naruto top tier* DOESNT count as PIS? that is hypocrisy.
The other hell the major reason is the wanks that comes from Naruto fans placing them the likes of Kakashi vs Hal Jordan, Sasuke vs Frieza.
and this thread is Neither kakashi VS Hal Jordan or Sasuke vs frieze, if you have a problem with THOSE debaters, then go PM them and leave it out of THIS thread.
and at the end of the day, if you can make good argument(because BOTH examples you gave were from CaV's) thats the POINT of a CaV, not who would actually win, but a way to showcase the debaters and their skills. thats NOT wank, thats how the website works.
Also PIS is PIS comic book manga doesn't matter.
kk. so keep that in mind when a PIS moment comes up. the strongest ninja getting hurt by regular tools happens just as rarely as the strongest heres in DC/Marvel getting tagged by street levelers or hurt by knives ,ETC. but YOU are the one claiming its not PIS and it something we should be using in this battle.
and if YOU use PIS examples for naruto, then we should sue them for THOR too, and I'm willing to bet that would a bit of an embarrassment for the almighty god of thunder lmao.
An what have we learned about Aim dodging? Doesn't make you FTL but people still cling to that making anyone around Naruto FTL combat fighters also pure speculation doesn't often happen an then power scaling.
i never once mentioned this. this is pointless. i have YET to see anybody in this thread mention naruto and the whole "light fang" move as a reason to be Light speed. its been debunked and rarely gets used other then by the few trolls on here.
What has been mentioned is Guy sensei's feat. which is not PIS, not AIM dodging and has an actual effect that puts him at that speed level.
Hypocrisy at it's finest hell I'm not even a big Thor fan.
and I'm not even a big naruto fan, i find the series Mehh, and a little overrated. but it still has feats to back it up and thats what i care about(unlike my favored series bleach, which became a total cluster of BS powers at the end)
All I asked was isn't Thor normally FTL.
and all i asked is, do you have any feats to show that he's close to this that are not TRAVEL speed feats.
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