Sage Mode team vs 3 Admirals

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Round 1: Intang off

Round 2: Intang on

*Narutos War Arc feats are allowed

Win by death or KO

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hashi could solo

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Mismatch. Hashirama still stomps the verse.

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Mismatch. Hashirama still stomps the verse.

Keep dreaming my man keep dreaming

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Sage Team is fodder aside from Hashirama. Hashirama loses

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*Narutos War Arc feats are allowed

Does that include So6P Naruto?

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Hashi gets overwhelmed

Everyone else is fodder

Round 1 admirals lose

Round 2 admirals win

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#11  Edited By Mee09

They can't stop Hashirama period. Especially without intangibility. How do they resist Kabuto and Jiraiya's sound Genjutsu? Kabuto as a Sage also has a form of intangibility as well. Naruto is just kind of here to watch. But I'm sure he could do something I guess.

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@mee09: they can outlast him since they can’t overpower his constructs, and everyone besides hashi is dying to kizarus first light speed bullet barrage.

Hashi could also die if he doesn’t get his constructs up in time.

Hashi solos with intang off though.

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So basically WA SM Naruto and Hashirama vs Admirals.

Nardo team pretty much mid/high diffs in R1, Admirals low diff in R2.

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#15  Edited By mysticmedivh

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@mysticmedivh: No just sage mode.

So KCM + SM?

I'm confused cause I don't recall him having all that many feats in the War with just SM. Most of it was either KCM or KCM + SM.

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@mysticmedivh: he has a few extra feats especially if count the mental battle with kurama, sensing the entire war,reacting to the raikages hell stab, gisnt rasengan barrage, throwing kurama, internal strikes.

but yeah he mostly just used it to sense enemies better.

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Round 1: Hashirama carries

Round 2: Admirals low mid diff

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"intangibility" wank as usual ... something like Fishmen Karate overcomes that intangibility, even Fishmen Karate from Jimbei proved more effective than Busoshoku from Luffy against an elemental being, Logia "intangibility" inferior to that of Prometheus a true elemental!

Sage team stomp

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#19  Edited By DrunkHC

The three Admirals have no feats mountain level ... this is the reality!

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@skrskr: ? How is Kabuto fodder? He can instantly incapacitate two admirals via his sensory overload and the genjutsu combo. The only reason I didn't say all 3 admirals is because the attack uses Light and one Admiral is made of light.

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Team SM win each and every round.

Kabuto can control the environment and has a form of Intang himself plus his Sensory+Genjutsu hax combo is a instant win for his team.

Hashirama is leagues above anyone here.

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@drunkhc: what a stupid point to make lol

Haki didn’t work because the homies aren’t logias and so don’t have true bodies, Prometheus is literally a ball of fire so of course water would against him lol

The logias are an entirely different power set

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@decaffeinated: because he can’t do anything to stop himself from being flash frozen, meted, or pelted with light speed bullets. the admirals all have observation haki which provides 360 sensing and precognition meaning it doesn’t matter if their senses are overloaded.

It isn’t in character for Kabuto to open with that, and it’s entirely in character for the admirals to do what I mentioned above.

Maybe fodder was a strong word, but compared to hashi he seems like fodder tbh.

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@skrskr:

Them having Haki changes nothing the Sensory overload paralyzes them. Kabuto also has precog to the point where he can fight without eyesight what so ever mix that with his ability to turn scatter his body around they won't be able to kill him before he uses his combo.

After that they're fish in a barrel for Hashirama.

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@decaffeinated: sensory overload paralyzed two people who have nothing close to observation haki, fujitora literally uses it to fight while blind and the same thing could be done if he was deaf. The jutsu would do nothing. Also itachi was fine after a couple of seconds and could still use sussano while it was active.

Why would that jutsu stop them from being intangible? Even if it paralyzed them which you can’t prove it can they would still be intangible to physical damage.

Also what is turning into snakes going to do to save him?

Aokiji with ice age has enough range to freeze the ocean enough for a 4 days walk which is 300 miles worth of distance instantly.

Kizaru literally moves and fires projectiles at light speed, assuming Kabuto could react or move faster than him is just wrong.

Akainu has even greater potency than aokiji and beat him.

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@skrskr: He froze ocean for 7 days, my man, not 4 days

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@exauce: the walk would take them 4 days though so that’s what I used to calculate the distance.

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@decaffeinated: sensory overload paralyzed two people who have nothing close to observation haki, fujitora literally uses it to fight while blind and the same thing could be done if he was deaf. The jutsu would do nothing. Also itachi was fine after a couple of seconds and could still use sussano while it was active.

Whay does Haki have to do with their senses being overloaded? Just because they extra senses doesn't make them immune to sensory overload.

Itachi guessed where he was going to attack, and w couple of seconds is more than enough for Genjutsu to take effect.

Why would that jutsu stop them from being intangible? Even if it paralyzed them which you can’t prove it can they would still be intangible to physical damage.

I don't need to prove it can, that's what the Jutsu does you have to prove their immune to overload.

Also what is turning into snakes going to do to save him?

It's not just turning into snakes he can turn into water, shed his skin, etc. The point is he's tricky.

Aokiji with ice age has enough range to freeze the ocean enough for a 4 days walk which is 300 miles worth of distance instantly.

It wasn't literally an instant and he has to touch them either directly or a medium so they can avoid the Ice.

Kizaru literally moves and fires projectiles at light speed, assuming Kabuto could react or move faster than him is just wrong.

I never said he could react I said he could predict and then use his multiple means of escape which Haki won't be able to detect because each snake is identical to him.

Akainu has even greater potency than aokiji and beat him.

I never denied this but Hashirama is greater than him and Aokiji the only threat to Hashirama is Kizaru.

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#30  Edited By AnimeFreak1

Sage Team in an mismatch

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@decaffeinated: they don’t need their senses to fight, that’s the point. It doesn’t matter if sight, sound, or anything is gone because they will still be able to sense and fight though haki. Fujitora literally can’t ever see and uses it fine. Also itachi being able to use sussano means they will all still have access to their abilities, so Ice age catches him.

everyone on the admirals side has him on range.

I already have proven that haki doesn’t require the senses by just using fujitora, or even using Rayleigh training luffy blindfolded.

None of the things you listed compensates for 300 miles of ice range, he gets flash frozen.

No he doesn’t, he can just freeze the ground in every direction. He already did this against doflamingo using a non named ice attack.

They don’t need to know which snake he is because they all have the aoe to decimate the entire area his snakes could have gone to.

Hashi is only better through wood constructs which do nothing against them since he would just be striking elements.

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@skrskr said:

@decaffeinated: they don’t need their senses to fight, that’s the point. It doesn’t matter if sight, sound, or anything is gone because they will still be able to sense and fight though haki. Fujitora literally can’t ever see and uses it fine. Also itachi being able to use sussano means they will all still have access to their abilities, so Ice age catches him.

It's not just about fighting without the senses it's about overcoming the pain of having your sense overloaded.

everyone on the admirals side has him on range.

Do you mean like they would just nuke the Field? Then I would have to say I agree that would take Kabuto out unless Hashirama can protect him.

I already have proven that haki doesn’t require the senses by just using fujitora, or even using Rayleigh training luffy blindfolded.

My first comment covers this counter as well.

None of the things you listed compensates for 300 miles of ice range, he gets flash frozen.

300 miles is a lot but not much compared to Hashirama.

No he doesn’t, he can just freeze the ground in every direction. He already did this against doflamingo using a non named ice attack.

Using the ground would be indirect contact like I said.

They don’t need to know which snake he is because they all have the aoe to decimate the entire area his snakes could have gone to.

I agree on this point.

Hashi is only better through wood constructs which do nothing against them since he would just be striking elements.

My can't Hashirama uses Endless Dark, our poison them, or seal them?

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@decaffeinated: which they could because itachi did, it didn’t affect Kabuto because of sage mode sensing which is literally just like haki. Now if you say that sage mode isn’t what protected Kabuto then Kabuto would be taking out his own team in the process.

Also if itachi can still use sussano in it then all of the admirals could just aoe him down and would know where he was due to observation haki.

The 300 miles isn’t in regards to hashi, it’s for Kabuto to show that it doesn’t matter how he tries to avoid the ice because his range is so immense he can’t go anywhere to avoid it.

Hashi isn’t going to use poison because he would just poison his own team, aokiji could flash freeze the entire forest bloom, akainu could vaporize and his passive heat would vaporize any pollen that got near him. (Just by standing near a sword he instantly burned it down).

His seal is a physical one, which can be ignored by just dispersing as an element.

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@decaffeinated: which they could because itachi did, it didn’t affect Kabuto because of sage mode sensing which is literally just like haki. Now if you say that sage mode isn’t what protected Kabuto then Kabuto would be taking out his own team in the process.

it did effect Itachi he just predicted what Kabuto would do while him and Sasuke where hit by the attack. It didn't effect Kabuto because he turned his hearing/sight off completely Haki users can't do that so they would be overloaded. It's not about them fighting while blind it's about them not getting messed up via sensory overload.

Also if itachi can still use sussano in it then all of the admirals could just aoe him down and would know where he was due to observation haki.

You have to prove they can guess what the SM team is going to do like Itachi did. If they can't then while they're fighting through the pain of having their senses overloaded they get incapacitated via genjutsu or sealing.

The 300 miles isn’t in regards to hashi, it’s for Kabuto to show that it doesn’t matter how he tries to avoid the ice because his range is so immense he can’t go anywhere to avoid it.

He can just ride up top of a wooden construct.

Hashi isn’t going to use poison because he would just poison his own team, aokiji could flash freeze the entire forest bloom, akainu could vaporize and his passive heat would vaporize any pollen that got near him. (Just by standing near a sword he instantly burned it down).

How can they do any of that if they're incapacitated by genjutsu?

His seal is a physical one, which can be ignored by just dispersing as an element.

Genjutsu.

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@decaffeinated: so you agree that this move would incapacitate his own team? And it doesn’t matter if itachi guessed where he was. He was still able to act and use his ability. The admirals will still know exactly where he is when he activates this and aoe him down. Also realistically there is no reason for kizaru to even allow him to pull this jutsu out, he can blitz him or ran down light speed attacks before he can even react.

why would they allow him to hop on a construct and it isn’t even in character for hashi to open up with constructs, he always has used them mid way through a fight.

Which genjutsu would be puttting them down?

Jiryaia is getting no diffed and Kabuto is going to be taken out be either a light speed admiral or the other two that can either freeze him or vaporize him before he can react.

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Theres just so much firepower on team 1. Between crazy @$$ wood constructs that can tank multi-mountain bijuu bombs with just a burn mark on its hand, an even bigger one with 1000 hands that can casually punch said bombs into oblivion, cellular cutting sage amped rasen shurikens where just the blades alone can slice a human into dust like the human path as well as massive rasengans coming from Naruto and Jaraiya, senses dulling white dragons and environmental control from kabuto, i just dont see the admirals coming out on top for this one.

And thats without mentioning Narutos and hashiramas clones and Narutos summonings.

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#39  Edited By MizzoKingG

Any of the Admirals negative diff stomp.Someone lock this pathetic mismatch.

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@iqholder said:

Theres just so much firepower on team 1. Between crazy @$$ wood constructs that can tank multi-mountain bijuu bombs with just a burn mark on its hand, an even bigger one with 1000 hands that can casually punch said bombs into oblivion, cellular cutting sage amped rasen shurikens where just the blades alone can slice a human into dust like the human path as well as massive rasengans coming from Naruto and Jaraiya, senses dulling white dragons and environmental control from kabuto, i just dont see the admirals coming out on top for this one.

And thats without mentioning Narutos and hashiramas clones and Narutos summonings.

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hashirama casually summons 100 + wood clones which all use shinsusenju or hood golem & dragon who gets overwhelmed now lol

kabuto liquifies his body and can potentially solo as he also possesses edo tensei where he summons the dead by the tones who gets overwhelmed now

jiraiya carves mountains with a casual giant rasengan and uses genjutsu and got precognition like haki

Naruto rasenshurikens and they get fodderized regardless of intangibility as it attacks the cells and yes he also got precog, matter fact they all got precognition

Naruto team destroys

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Hashi solos the verse, not sure why you put him here.

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not restricting edo tensei means a guaranteed win the sage team.

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Any of the Admirals negative diff stomp.Someone lock this pathetic mismatch.

Please enjoy your vacation m8, your main account was already deleted, you don't want even your alt to suffer the same fate.

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sound genjutsu gg

but even if jiraiya doesnt get ma and pa with no intangibility hashi solos round 1

round 2 kabuto can still use sound genjutsu as a weapon so gg no re