SABO VS EMS MADARA

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Madara starts in susano

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sabo gets stampede movie feats

Win by any means possible

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#2  Edited By kingonea

Sabo one shots without the Mera Mera, and with the Mera Mera.

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Madara is city level at best, Sabo should dominate.

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Jokes apart though with stampede movie feats you can add hashirama and sabo would still oneshot

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#5  Edited By kingonea

@agrape said:

Madara is city level at best, Sabo should dominate.

Madara city level is being wildly generous. He is at best town level. But yeah even then, it doesn't even matter.

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#6  Edited By shirso

With Stampede feats, Madara can't even react to Sabo.

He should beat canon Sabo fairly easily though.

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Sabo >> Lucci

Lucci>>/=Zoro

Zoro < Luffy

Luffy< Sabo

Sabo mid diff>>> EMS Madara

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#8  Edited By kingonea

@shirso said:

With Stampede feats, Madara can't even react to Sabo.

He should beat canon Sabo fairly easily though.

I didn't know there was a difference between canon Sabo and Stampede ( sarcasm here). Where did you get that ? It is fairly obvious that all the characters in Stampede are weaker than their canon version. Even the main villain.This is a movie. Most powers arent spoiled and most characters aren't going all out and being saved. Plus pre Wano Luffy has to win. In canon, movie Bullet would be Admiral level or below,his mecha would have been useless against Kid, and Sabo would be far more busted than he already is. Same absolute result for canon Sabo.

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#12 Gilateen  Online

Madara takes it if he goes PS.

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#13  Edited By Yray

@gilateen said:

Madara takes it if he goes PS.

Madara gets one shoted with his PS not only can he not harm sabo with his air slash or meteor due to logia .

Stampede sabo eclipses him in DC

Sabo was fast enough to intercept kizarus lasers with a fire fist flame pillar that stretched across the horizon in a short time frame.

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Easily country lvl feat done by sabo with little to no difficulty/effort, not to mention the flames were still lit even while in direct contact with the sea water

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Stampede sabo stomp hashirama, madara and naruto BSM at the same time, he is Relativitic++ and his flames cover an country area.

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#15  Edited By Gilateen  Online

@yray:

Your correct about the DC part but Madara is at country level himself and One Shotting PS? Really? In your dreams, his Sussano is too durable and the shockwaves are already too strong, Slicing multiple large mountains in one swing, any more swings than that and...well you know. Plus he has Genjutsu to counter that logia.

And no he is not beating him and Hashirama At the same time, that’s just wank now.

1. EMS Madara would be Yonko tier in the verse.

2. Hashirama would be Admiral tier in the verse.

Sabo does beat him without Sussano though.

But let’s not go that far, he not beating Hashirama and Madara at the same time.

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@yray:

Dont waste your time, the levels he gives to the naruto characters are taken from who knows where.

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#18  Edited By Gilateen  Online

^^Like he has any room to talk, I’m just going by facts, not headcannon like Omni does on every thread.

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he talks about headcanon, and says that Madara is country level

ironic.

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#20  Edited By Gilateen  Online

^^He uses headcannon a lot so....but it’s true that madara’s PS Sussano is island level or Above, like it or not. But Saying Sabo Beats Hashirama, Madara, and BSM Naruto at the Same time? That’s enough outta you, All of this is my opinion, you don’t have to agree(IDC anyway)!

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@shirso said:

With Stampede feats, Madara can't even react to Sabo.

He should beat canon Sabo fairly easily though.

This

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#22  Edited By Yray

@gilateen:

I swear every time a OP character gets better feat you guys really do start scaling naruto characters higher where tf you get COUNTRY lvl EMS madara from?lol

Pls provide country lvl heat based attack durability feats for him because I'm positive the only attacks in the naruto verse that you can even place on country lvl are juubidama tier (which would oneshot EMS madara with no effort)

Yes he's gonna oneshot both him and hashi easily and it's not wank when he has the feats presented .

1.Ems madara is only in the same tier as current near featless Yonkos ,I mean its painfully obvious that EMS madara and hashi can only defeat current Yonkos (with their little to no feats) only when either uses their avatars which are their strongest offense and defense meanwhile a yonko can oneshot them with a casual attack in base if it connects to their real body. You don't need simple math to know once Yonkos get more feats both madara and hashi would be near fodder to them.

2.nope hashirama is only around Yonko commander tier he can't defeat a single admiral he would loose to Doffy and If i had free time i could defend katakuri in a Cav defeating him ,hashirama powerset is terrible against most op top tiers

Stampede Sabo still oneshots him with Perfect Susano.

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Madara rips him in half

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#24  Edited By Omnihater

Madara is just MM or large mountain (and thats is with kyubi, PS alone is just Mountain+), again, he took the island let alone the country (LOL) from who knows where, like all his fan baseless opinions.

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Man this thread is wild, town level Madara and country level sabo

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Sabo wins

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#27  Edited By Gilateen  Online

@yray:

HA!!, I wasn’t even serious about him being country level, But Seriously though, EMS Madara’s PS is Island level or Above and we can’t Denny it. Just One Slash is Multi Mountain level, Any more than that then yeah.

1. They have Substitution/Wood Clone to get out of it and the Yonkos have no Genjutsu resistance, Hashi/Maday do win until the Yonkos get more feats that are on PS and Shinju Senju’s level.

2. Actually Yes, Katakuri or Doffy don’t have anything on Shinju Senju’s level tbh. Non-SM Hashirama wood golem tanked bijuudama’s so I don’t see why it can’t tank their attacks.

3. He gets Genjutsu’d and then Slashed before that happens.

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@co-boss: lol

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@yray: nothing impressive and those islands are quite small that even the ship's are visible.

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#30  Edited By Omnihater
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@yray: nothing impressive and those islands are quite small that even the ship's are visible.

Ships in OP are small mountain/mountain sized.

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Ah here we go with the "ships are visible" nonsense.

Do people realize that even buildings can be clearly made out in comparison to entire landmasses at such great heights?

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I'd go with stalemate occurring here unless Madara can get Sabo into a genjutsu somehow. Then he could take this matchup into his direction more as the battle continues between them.

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@yray: nothing impressive and those islands are quite small that even the ship's are visible.

Exo Skelton bullet was mountain sized you can see its size compared to 2-3 story buildings

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Here's same exoskeleton (shining purple light) being transported to the head of colossal bullet (so it only takes up some space in the head of colossal bullet

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Colossal bullet was easily multimountain range to small island in size

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But still he was significantly smaller than just one of the 3 islands alone (red circle is colossal bullet )

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So no those islands aren't small at all.,not in the slightest

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How is sabo winning this those flames ain’t melting ps lol what is their best feats ps took bijuu damas at point blank range with zero damage.

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I can't believe people are still comparing multi mountain +bijuudama to a country lvl attack and it hurts more when you realise sabo did that almost casually

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My god One Piece Wankers

And here I thought One Piece was supposed to be the least wanked of the HST

OT: Hashirama still one shots

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the irony

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Sabo stomps lmao

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#40  Edited By Bink_69

What's up with people bumping these 5+ month old threads?

OT: Sabo wins against Base Madara. Madara wins if he uses susanoo

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#41 Decaffeinated  Online

The OP wank is pretty bad here.

Sabo should win with the non canon feats but he's not country level and the fact that the Island dwarfs bullet proves he's not Island Sized.

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The OP wank is pretty bad here.

Sabo should win with the non canon feats but he's not country level and the fact that the Island dwarfs bullet proves he's not Island Sized.

Greenland Island(a real world island) is bigger than may countries. I guess destroying it makes you island level...Nice.

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#43 Decaffeinated  Online

@eazy2002: this isn't Greenland.

Nice argument.

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@eazy2002: this isn't Greenland.

Nice argument.

Someone already prove that the island is large island sized by scailing it of colossal bullet who is small island sized.(post 33)

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@eazy2002:

And it falls apart because Bullet isn't small island sized. And you comparing it to Greenland is a fallacy because you have zero evidence to prove its even close to Greenland.

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@decaffeinated: Here a scaling i found

Yea but we have some estimate

Like how the golem bullet was bigger and larger than a city

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But still looked like a dot in the Island they were fist fighting

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And that Island they were fighting on also look like nothing compare to actual Island (it the one that is circle)

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This Island is easily country in size

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#47 Decaffeinated  Online

@exauce: Nothing you just posted proves it's country level. Or that he's Island Sized.

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#48  Edited By eazy2002

@decaffeinated said:

@eazy2002:

And it falls apart because Bullet isn't small island sized. And you comparing it to Greenland is a fallacy because you have zero evidence to prove its even close to Greenland.

-And I wasn't comparing it to green land. You have obviously missed the point on why i brought up greenland. I brought is up because ur premise was that bullet being smaller than an delta island doesn't make him small island sized which is just a fallacy because it shown on post 33 that delta island isnt the size of an average island.

Me: Shows post where bullet is shown to be small island sized with enough proof

Decafe: bUlLet iS NOt sMaLl IsLAnd SIzed

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@exauce: Nothing you just posted proves it's country level. Or that he's Island Sized.

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#50 Decaffeinated  Online

@eazy2002:

Nothing in that post proves he's island sized, all you did was scale from a city which you claimed was large but didn't prove it was (Large City is something like Tokyo, LA, New York, Etc.) So at best all you proved was that he's large Mountain sized.