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#51  Edited By isaac_clarke

@jaywray said:

@Boobster said:

@alcoholbob said:

Superman fanboys wont let him lose this

You think Odin's would ?

Since when does Odin even have fanboys...

I'd like to say every character has them, but more so every character is hyped beyond belief on these boards, Odin is no exception and neither is the guy that was regularly depicted really susceptible to magic he is fighting here.

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#52  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@isaac_clarke: He's referring to the World Eaters arc.
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#53  Edited By isaac_clarke

@Morpheus_ said:

@isaac_clarke: He's referring to the World Eaters arc.

I was thinking the same thing too, but I just wanted to clarify. Although a few things to bear in mind:

  • This was just after Odin's Resurrection, what level of power he is even at given the lack of an Odinsleep is a bit questionable.
  • In the actual fight itself when he was taking some damage / on the ropes, he suddenly sees Thor and seems completely fine, so I don't even know if Odin was really all that phased at this point.
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Odin since then has gotten considerably more powerful again or said items themselves had a bit more merit, even if they ultimately didn't seem to stop him from brutally killing their anti-all father themed world eater.

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@Morpheus_ said:
@isaac_clarke: He's referring to the World Eaters arc.
Thanks for the info Morph, I had the arc's mixed up.
 
@isaac_clarke said:

@CapitolPunishment said:

Silver age Superman was a bit more powerful than those guys with the spears that owned Odin in fear itself, or the cave trolls that used to casually slap Odin around. I don't think its an easy win at all

Was this in journey into mystery, because I don't remember that happening in Fear Itself. Regardless, the Destroyer armor and the Odinsword are quite a different beast than just Odin himself. Nobodies with the Destroyer have mopped the floor with Thor and Odin in it was actually able to cleave through Celestials, which are quite a few leagues beyond SA Superman. Doesn't help that recent showings have the Destroyer+Odin potentially being able to give a fight to Galactus if need be.

No, Morpheus cleared that up, I believe that story preceded the Mighty Thor arc and I got them confused, my apologies. Also thanks for the scans of the actual fight as well.
 
I would agree that the two items make a huge difference, especially when Odin is using them and should solidify a victory here. I'll admit that was a bit of a poke at Odin on my part but only because most users here seem to think he is nearly invincible in battle and that he can only lose to the likes of Galactus, Celestials or abstract level beings. While the "all-Father" is nearly at the top of the food chain in the MU, as powerful as he may be he is not beyond defeat from beings that are below abstract in power. I was not saying that SAS can take him but that he is more powerful than many foes that have given Odin problems in the past and this still would not be an easy win in any circumstance.
 
Although SAS has an inherit weakness to magic it is not an instant lose for him. He has had many low showings against characters that are magical in nature but he has also preformed many orders above current and pre flashpoint Superman against both low and high end magical beings, I can post some scans but they are a bit absurd and I don't think it would change the outcome of the battle. 
 
Silver age Superman was all over the place with his powers and many many of his low end showings were pretty much comic relief. I noted a few examples but did not bother with the scans, here is another silly example: There an issue (an old action comics mini) where he fights some fake captain Marvel (KAH-VAM) who is empowered by the Greek gods (much like Marvel). He not only utilizes his strength enhancements, he uses Zeus's magic via throwing thunder bolts (to name one example) and also Kryptonite against Superman. He took an initial beating but at the end of this absurd battle Superman still mops the floor with him. Its hard to even take %90 of his showings seriously.
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#55  Edited By jaywray

@isaac_clarke said:

I'd like to say every character has them, but more so every character is hyped beyond belief on these boards, Odin is no exception and neither is the guy that was regularly depicted really susceptible to magic he is fighting here.

I dont know man, I've never really seen anyone being irrational about Odin like I had Supes or many many other characters, but, I suppose maybe there's just less or I haven't seen as many.

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#56  Edited By a88378438

look at this forum no odin fanboys just has SA superman fanboys...? lol,SA superman not need exception and fanboys,heself power enough crazy however,odin+magic wins,odin(no magic) SA superman wins

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#57  Edited By jeanroygrant

odin stomps

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#58  Edited By Pharoh_Atem

@alcoholbob said:

Superman fanboys wont let him lose this

U Not Like Superman?

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#59  Edited By WarBlade539

@alcoholbob: Haha...yeah!!!

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#60  Edited By a88378438

Wow, this thread again.

Unless you can prove odin+Destroyer is BIG G level, if no, he lose

The SA Superman PIS, in the silver age ( I think this thread most should reread it ) Superman is absolutely invincible, he won't get hurt, PIS Superman no weakness, his muscle strength is infinite, he can break the infinite, his all power is unlimited

If the universe is a solid ball, the man will only move it

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#61  Edited By avenger693

Odin has a eyepatch. HE WINS!!

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Odin blinkstomps

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#63  Edited By ImmortalT1000

Superman would win. He destroyed a Solar System....... With just a sneeze.....I don't know if Odin could dream of that.....

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#64  Edited By beautifulrevery

@ImmortalT1000 said:

Superman would win. He destroyed a Solar System....... With just a sneeze.....I don't know if Odin could dream of that.....

Galaxy buster...versus solar system buster...who was amped by Mxy....hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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#65  Edited By dondave

@beautifulrevery: while I agree Odin wins, IIRC SA Superman wasn't amped by Mxy he was just given sneezing powder

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#66  Edited By ImmortalT1000

@beautifulrevery: yeah, but Odin didnt do it with a sneeze.

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#67  Edited By Bo88gdan

ODIN Ftw

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#68  Edited By beautifulrevery

@dondave said:

@beautifulrevery: while I agree Odin wins, IIRC SA Superman wasn't amped by Mxy he was just given sneezing powder

I've heard it debated both ways to be honest and I'm more inclined to believe Mxy had something to do with him sneezing away solar systems rather than his Super breath being that powerful(SA Superman was ridiculous but that's just downright stupid imo).

@ImmortalT1000 said:

@beautifulrevery: yeah, but Odin didnt do it with a sneeze.

So tell me, what's Superman gonna do, sneeze Odin to death? In his Destroyer armor with the Odinsword? Yea, I didn't think so.

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#69  Edited By ImmortalT1000

@beautifulrevery: Ok. You win the argument.

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#70  Edited By XxGin

ODIN FORCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

odin wins

He made thor pee his pants

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#71  Edited By ShootingNova

Odin destroys.

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#72  Edited By kameo

@avenger693 said:

Odin has a eyepatch. HE WINS!!

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superman would defeat odin seeing how odin could lift maybe 90 tons whilst even superman at his weakest could lift way higher its not going to be easy for odin to fight him in hand to hand combat becuase he will die of being beaten to a pulp but with odins magic he also stands a good chance but only because of his magic

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Superman supersneeze.

Also I'd like to say superman doesn't have a weakness to Magic he just doesn't have any resistance. That being said SA Supes apparently absorbs Magic "like a sponge"

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Odin gets a "HIGH SPEED BEATDOWN."

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spite Odin stomp

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Odin.

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#78  Edited By theaterofdreams

SA Superman is paralleled by a very few. He takes this without even trying. Magic does not weaken Superman and it's pretty much benign to SA Superman.

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Odin stomps.

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Odin in a massive stomp.

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Clark gets his Kryptonian ass handed to him.

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No explanations for how Odin wins and i feel people are just saying odin because it's Oin and they hate SA Supes

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Anti-Asgardian vision FTW.

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Oh Marvel Fanboys, Fanboys, Fanboys. Magic is your sole argument against SA Superman. Maybe you guys should read how SA Superman deals with characters like Mxy back in the Silver Age :P. No Magic Odin can muster can kill SA Superman- maybe it could contain him for a while but it all fails. SA Superman was powered by Plot induced will power to win against all odds. Odin is no match against Silver age Mxy and SA Superman has put the little imp in his place a few times. Let the favoritism end please and just accept facts that are given to us. You guys are just as bad as the people who deny evidence and argue against Evolution being not true. We have reached the point of silliness and I do not see it ever ending.

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He develops Anti-Odin powers.

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Lol. Fan hyped pis powers. By that logic, odin is omnipotent. He still stomps.

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SA superman completely stomps without trying

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This is what happens when Magic is used on SA Superman. Notice the speed used to leave earth to and find a dead solar system. And yes of course Odin can do what Mxy has failed to do with his magic against SA Superman. Prince your argument is simply denying evidence. Im sure you reject all sorts of overwhelming evidence to support your own conclusions.

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well superman can destroy solar systems by sneezing right, a funny feat. A fraction of the full Odin force is able to create new ones, he bust galaxies, and for people who it is always complaining about the world eater arc, after odin failed, he pass his soul to the destroyer armour and Galactus was like "shit this is pretty bad" if people is going to use that argue you must have to read the whole arc and put all the pieces in place.

Odin rolfstomp SA Superman.

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@supermandefender: I agree. SA Supes pulled any and new powers out of his butt whenever he needed. He takes this.

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@clownprinceofcrime1995:

This really is the mythical version of Superman that could theoretically take on half of MU and possibly win.

So glad he has been powered down. SA Supes would win this.

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@supermandefender:

Mxy isn't Magic it's science, he absorbed magi once "like a sponge"

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I guess SA Superman would have plot & PIS on his side.

SA Superman was receiving all the powers he needed to acomplish a quest, so i guess, his vulnerability to magic would disapear and then he would slap Odin around.

Or maybe Odinsword is even more broken than SA Superman...

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SA Superman will win this. He was potrayed as a high tier cosmic back then.

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Odin stomps, sa superman comics are retarded

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Odin?

In the Destroyer Armor no less?

Odin wins.