Rune King Thor vs Darkseid
RKT.
I would like to see what puts Darkseid in Skyfather level (I mean, when he destroyed a galaxy?), let alone RKT.
" @czarny_samael: RK Thor is also sky father level "He is above Skyfather level. He is a least two times more powerfull than Odin. But for me he is clearly more than two times powerfull than Odin. He defeated Those Who Sit Above In Shadow, for who Odin was only a toy that was giving them more and more energy. And couldn't do anything with this.
i find a huge feat here
Darkseid joins with Dr.Fate, Orion, Highfather, Etrigan they form the Cinque of Cosmic Power and they battle the Anti-Life Entity, which is actually the evil part of the Source. In the end they defeat it, but cutting it off form it’s own dimension by destroying the universe. So 1/5 of the power to destroy a universe was from Darkseid. Huge feat.
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1.Dr. Srange in many means = Dr. Fate and with his magic he was often doing crazy things (to be true, both of them were). And they didn't do that only because of their power, but thnaks to source of their power.
Something like creating a Megazord in Power Rangers ;)
2.By name, yes he is, but in power he is above other Skyfathers. Odin = Zeus = Vishnu <<<<<<<<<< RKT.
" @czarny_samael:i didn't look at the scans and i did wrong,the universe was destroyed because of chain reaction RH thor wins "No problem, for me it doesn't matter since I've read only first page.
In my own defense: I think that Dr. Fate's first sentense gives thisfeat to power that was created thanks to magic laws, not just thanks to these people's power.
LOL here!
Darkseid dies in first page like nothing!
I mean WTF?!?! Regular Thor i like 50/50 with him & where ueing the most powerful Thor ever?!
Not too smart...
& that 1/5 Universal feat is bullshit & a lie!
sad people got to go this low & leave things out...
Both darkseid & Etrigan where tapping into some wellspring of Power which was supposedly unlimited...
So in other words he had a big amp! LOL!!!
Darkseid & the rest of Apokalips is destroyed forever & done easily...
" LOL here! Darkseid dies in first page like nothing! I mean WTF?!?! Regular Thor i like 50/50 with him & where ueing the most powerful Thor ever?! Not too smart... & that 1/5 Universal feat is bullshit & a lie! sad people got to go this low & leave things out... Both darkseid & Etrigan where tapping into some wellspring of Power which was supposedly unlimited... So in other words he had a big amp! LOL!!! Darkseid & the rest of Apokalips is destroyed forever & done easily... "No. Regular Thor would get stomped badly. And no, he can't destroy all of Apokolips at all, let alone easily.
And what if Darkseid could destroy 1/5 of the Universe ( which I doubt ), classic Thor created a vortex that saved 1/5 of the Universe from destruction, now this is Rune King Thor, so you do the math.
" @GamorasBigDaddy said:" LOL here! Darkseid dies in first page like nothing! I mean WTF?!?! Regular Thor i like 50/50 with him & where ueing the most powerful Thor ever?! Not too smart... & that 1/5 Universal feat is bullshit & a lie! sad people got to go this low & leave things out... Both darkseid & Etrigan where tapping into some wellspring of Power which was supposedly unlimited... So in other words he had a big amp! LOL!!! Darkseid & the rest of Apokalips is destroyed forever & done easily... "No. Regular Thor would get stomped badly. And no, he can't destroy all of Apokolips at all, let alone easily. "
LOL, No, Regular Thor doubt can beat Darkseid, there VERY Close....Thor should win majority though even atnormal levels...
& Yes this Thor would indeed Destroy his whole planet quite easily...It would'nt even be a challenge for him...
Well Odin is a galaxy buster in terms of power, and RKT is twice as strong as his father. So I would probably go with Thor on this if the OE doesn't isntantly work on Thor. Which he could posssibly deflect, not like the beams haven't been deflected before.
" @MrDirector786 said:No. Regular Thor would be stomped badly. Regular Darkseid is a skyfather level being. This Thor could probably beat regular Darkseid, though PC Darkseid and FC Darkseid would stomp him, but he can't take on all of Apokolips at all." @GamorasBigDaddy said:LOL, No, Regular Thor doubt can beat Darkseid, there VERY Close....Thor should win majority though even atnormal levels... & Yes this Thor would indeed Destroy his whole planet quite easily...It would'nt even be a challenge for him... "" LOL here! Darkseid dies in first page like nothing! I mean WTF?!?! Regular Thor i like 50/50 with him & where ueing the most powerful Thor ever?! Not too smart... & that 1/5 Universal feat is bullshit & a lie! sad people got to go this low & leave things out... Both darkseid & Etrigan where tapping into some wellspring of Power which was supposedly unlimited... So in other words he had a big amp! LOL!!! Darkseid & the rest of Apokalips is destroyed forever & done easily... "No. Regular Thor would get stomped badly. And no, he can't destroy all of Apokolips at all, let alone easily. "
" @GamorasBigDaddy said:Some proves that he is Skyfather level being (in Marvel means)?" @MrDirector786 said:No. Regular Thor would be stomped badly. Regular Darkseid is a skyfather level being. This Thor could probably beat regular Darkseid, though PC Darkseid and FC Darkseid would stomp him, but he can't take on all of Apokolips at all. "" @GamorasBigDaddy said:LOL, No, Regular Thor doubt can beat Darkseid, there VERY Close....Thor should win majority though even atnormal levels... & Yes this Thor would indeed Destroy his whole planet quite easily...It would'nt even be a challenge for him... "" LOL here! Darkseid dies in first page like nothing! I mean WTF?!?! Regular Thor i like 50/50 with him & where ueing the most powerful Thor ever?! Not too smart... & that 1/5 Universal feat is bullshit & a lie! sad people got to go this low & leave things out... Both darkseid & Etrigan where tapping into some wellspring of Power which was supposedly unlimited... So in other words he had a big amp! LOL!!! Darkseid & the rest of Apokalips is destroyed forever & done easily... "No. Regular Thor would get stomped badly. And no, he can't destroy all of Apokolips at all, let alone easily. "
" @MrDirector786 said:In the Countdown, he captured and tortured all the Greek Gods. And that wasn't the first time he beat the Greek Gods. In an old issue, I think it was Action Comics 600, he invaded and took over Olympus. And though it was revealed that the Gods had abandoned Olympus, and so were not present when he took over, they later said that he still caused them great pain. And in these scans, you can see that it describes that he destroyed the gods of other worlds to take their power." @GamorasBigDaddy said:Some proves that he is Skyfather level being (in Marvel means)? "" @MrDirector786 said:No. Regular Thor would be stomped badly. Regular Darkseid is a skyfather level being. This Thor could probably beat regular Darkseid, though PC Darkseid and FC Darkseid would stomp him, but he can't take on all of Apokolips at all. "" @GamorasBigDaddy said:LOL, No, Regular Thor doubt can beat Darkseid, there VERY Close....Thor should win majority though even atnormal levels... & Yes this Thor would indeed Destroy his whole planet quite easily...It would'nt even be a challenge for him... "" LOL here! Darkseid dies in first page like nothing! I mean WTF?!?! Regular Thor i like 50/50 with him & where ueing the most powerful Thor ever?! Not too smart... & that 1/5 Universal feat is bullshit & a lie! sad people got to go this low & leave things out... Both darkseid & Etrigan where tapping into some wellspring of Power which was supposedly unlimited... So in other words he had a big amp! LOL!!! Darkseid & the rest of Apokalips is destroyed forever & done easily... "No. Regular Thor would get stomped badly. And no, he can't destroy all of Apokolips at all, let alone easily. "
i was wondering if he was RKT level the reason i made this is because hes been literally stompiing DC's and Marvels strongest up till now though happy to see RKT wins
To be in Skyfather level in Marvel, You need to be a galaxy buster.
Did Darkseid ever destroyed a galaxy without any boosts? These scans doesn't prove this. Seriously, I don't see a point of them.
" @MrDirector786 : To be in Skyfather level in Marvel, You need to be a galaxy buster.Did Darkseid ever destroyed a galaxy without any boosts? These scans doesn't prove this. Seriously, I don't see a point of them. "Oh. In that case, I haven't yet seen a scan of him destroying a galaxy. If I find one, I'll let you know. I have heard from others that he's a galaxy buster but I'll try to find scan to confirm it.
" @MrDirector786 : To be in Skyfather level in Marvel, You need to be a galaxy buster.Where did you ever get that assertion?
" @czarny_samael said:When You are saying "Skyfather", You're thinking about what level? You're thinking about a (at least) galaxy buster." @MrDirector786 : To be in Skyfather level in Marvel, You need to be a galaxy buster.Where did you ever get that assertion? "
Odin is a galaxy buster. Zeus and Vishnu are equal to Odin, Surtur is more powerfull than Odin. Both Asgardians destroyed a galaxy in the past. This is a start. Then, their losed battles with others can tell us who is and who probably isn't in their level (but it depends on thier boosts, context, place etc.).
Of course, You can be a Skyfather without it, but it doesn't matter for battles forum. "Skyfather", "Elder God" "Abstract", etc. means (here) level of power.
For example: Something like semi-abstract doesn't exist. You are Abstract or not. But for us, semi-abstract will be low level Abstract, like Eon.
So, yes, Darkseid is a Skyfather in title, but he isn't Skyfather in the same means as Odin or Zeus. Of course until someone will show us his big feats. I see potential in him, so I am not saying that such a scans exist or not. To this moment it wasn't proved.
The same goes with Rune King Thor. Theoretically, he is Skyfather, but for us he is close to Elder Gods in power thanks to his fight with TWSAIS and stoping Ragnarok.
"And what if Darkseid could destroy 1/5 of the Universe ( which I doubt ), classic Thor created a vortex that saved 1/5 of the Universe from destruction, now this is Rune King Thor, so you do the math. "
" @CosmicSpiral said:Odin is one of the most powerful skyfathers, so galaxy busting is not required." @czarny_samael said:When You are saying "Skyfather", You're thinking about what level? You're thinking about a (at least) galaxy buster. Odin is a galaxy buster. Zeus and Vishnu are equal to Odin, Surtur is more powerfull than Odin. Both Asgardians destroyed a galaxy in the past. This is a start. Then, their losed battles with others can tell us who is and who probably isn't in their level (but it depends on thier boosts, context, place etc.). Of course, You can be a Skyfather without it, but it doesn't matter for battles forum. "Skyfather", "Elder God" "Abstract", etc. means (here) level of power. For example: Something like semi-abstract doesn't exist. You are Abstract or not. But for us, semi-abstract will be low level Abstract, like Eon. So, yes, Darkseid is a Skyfather in title, but he isn't Skyfather in the same means as Odin or Zeus. Of course until someone will show us his big feats. I see potential in him, so I am not saying that such a scans exist or not. To this moment it wasn't proved.The same goes with Rune King Thor. Theoretically, he is Skyfather, but for us he is close to Elder Gods in power thanks to his fight with TWSAIS and stoping Ragnarok. "" @MrDirector786 : To be in Skyfather level in Marvel, You need to be a galaxy buster.Where did you ever get that assertion? "
How is Surtur more powerful than Odin when Odin defeats him every day (although he dies from his injuries later)?
That is only a small portion of Surtur's essence.How is Surtur more powerful than Odin when Odin defeats him every day (although he dies from his injuries later)? "
@czarny_samael said:
You do not need to destroy a galaxy to prove you are a skyfather. If that was the case, then Odin stopped being a skyfather in the 80's. That means Hercules is not a skyfather now and will probably never be a skyfather because Marvel will never have characters wantonly destroying galaxies again due to their "realistic" stand on things.When You are saying "Skyfather", You're thinking about what level? You're thinking about a (at least) galaxy buster. Odin is a galaxy buster. Zeus and Vishnu are equal to Odin, Surtur is more powerfull than Odin. Both Asgardians destroyed a galaxy in the past. This is a start. Then, their losed battles with others can tell us who is and who probably isn't in their level (but it depends on thier boosts, context, place etc.). Of course, You can be a Skyfather without it, but it doesn't matter for battles forum. "Skyfather", "Elder God" "Abstract", etc. means (here) level of power. For example: Something like semi-abstract doesn't exist. You are Abstract or not. But for us, semi-abstract will be low level Abstract, like Eon. So, yes, Darkseid is a Skyfather in title, but he isn't Skyfather in the same means as Odin or Zeus. Of course until someone will show us his big feats. I see potential in him, so I am not saying that such a scans exist or not. To this moment it wasn't proved.The same goes with Rune King Thor. Theoretically, he is Skyfather, but for us he is close to Elder Gods in power thanks to his fight with TWSAIS and stoping Ragnarok. "
" You do not need to destroy a galaxy to prove you are a skyfather. If that was the case, then Odin stopped being a skyfather in the 80's. That means Hercules is not a skyfather now and will probably never be a skyfather because Marvel will never have characters wantonly destroying galaxies again due to their "realistic" stand on things. "Odin wasn't depowered.
Hercules has Zeus power so he is equal to Odin (he just don't have experience with it).
Odin wasn't depowered. Hercules has Zeus power so he is equal to Odin (he just don't have experience with it). "He stopped replicating the same feats he used to perform. If Odin is the standard by which all skyfathers are measured by, then it's "obvious" that he stopped being a skyfather at the time he stopped performing feats comparable to destroying a galaxy. Otherwise, you have to confront your own circular logic.
No, until Odin will be depowered. It doesn't matter when he did that.
Such as Clssic Thor is current Thor, classic Quasar is current Quasar, etc.
" No, until Odin will be depowered. It doesn't matter when he did that. Such as Clssic Thor is current Thor, classic Quasar is current Quasar, etc. "Classic Thor is current Thor for those who are ignorant of the traits of both.
I'm pointing out that your logic is flawed by using an argument that stems directly from your definition. Your definition of "skyfather" is entirely parasitic on the feats of a past version of Odin.
" @GamorasBigDaddy said:" @MrDirector786 said:No. Regular Thor would be stomped badly. Regular Darkseid is a skyfather level being. This Thor could probably beat regular Darkseid, though PC Darkseid and FC Darkseid would stomp him, but he can't take on all of Apokolips at all. "" @GamorasBigDaddy said:LOL, No, Regular Thor doubt can beat Darkseid, there VERY Close....Thor should win majority though even atnormal levels... & Yes this Thor would indeed Destroy his whole planet quite easily...It would'nt even be a challenge for him... "" LOL here! Darkseid dies in first page like nothing! I mean WTF?!?! Regular Thor i like 50/50 with him & where ueing the most powerful Thor ever?! Not too smart... & that 1/5 Universal feat is bullshit & a lie! sad people got to go this low & leave things out... Both darkseid & Etrigan where tapping into some wellspring of Power which was supposedly unlimited... So in other words he had a big amp! LOL!!! Darkseid & the rest of Apokalips is destroyed forever & done easily... "No. Regular Thor would get stomped badly. And no, he can't destroy all of Apokolips at all, let alone easily. "
Wrong, keep thinking that, but if Supes & Orion can do it so can Thor, &he has a weapon that can block his trump card OB...Yea, Darkseid can lose no doubt!
No darkseid is'nt EVEN CLOSE to skyfather level! LOL though I mean seriously, please do some research before sayingshit like that!
Actually FC Darkseid was'nt that impressive at all! lol again....Only PC Darkseid is impressive...
" @czarny_samael said:I'm using facts. Strange said that Thor is in his classic level again. You can't deny someone's feats, just because he don't copy them in this times, because whole point of posting scans could be denied. It doesn't matter when someone did something if he wasn't depowered after making that feat." No, until Odin will be depowered. It doesn't matter when he did that. Such as Clssic Thor is current Thor, classic Quasar is current Quasar, etc. "Classic Thor is current Thor for those who are ignorant of the traits of both. I'm pointing out that your logic is flawed by using an argument that stems directly from your definition. Your definition of "skyfather" is entirely parasitic on the feats of a past version of Odin. "
P.S. And Thor = BRB, who seems to be in classic leve, don't You think?
I cant see DS winning here. RLT can do way more and problly has a much bigger power set than DS at his normal levels.
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