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#51 Edited by DoctorHulk (111 posts) - - Show Bio

4 celestials

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#52 Posted by BreakOfDawn (2021 posts) - - Show Bio

With the necrosword and all of the other amps he gets to Franklin or clears.

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#53 Posted by cosmic_reign (3498 posts) - - Show Bio

@bowdowntodaddy said:

How exactly? The necrosword would effortlessly one shot them...

RKT has never had the necrosword. The necrosword was created from the energy of a celestial. To suggest it would effortlessly one shot 4 celestials is bollocks. People wielding the Necrosword have been defeated by others way below celestial levels.

Also, the Necrosword tends to do what it wants anyway.

Thank u for clarifying that.

Also, the Celestial seemed only to be curious about Knull when it was attacked. Very different if the Celestial defends itself...same applies to Thor with Jarnbjorn.

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#54 Posted by Aristeaus (1025 posts) - - Show Bio

With the necrosword and all of the other amps he gets to Franklin or clears.

Again, not sure how people are saying this.

Franklin could not defeat 3 celestials. He had to BFR them to buy himself time. He was losing.

I get how people could argue that RKT clears, but for anyone to suggest Franklin is the stop here is just woefully ignorant, and suggest you know nothing about him. In the worst possible sense. You guys know 4 is greater then 3 right?

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#55 Posted by Crytodaddykid (27 posts) - - Show Bio

@bowdowntodaddy said:

How exactly? The necrosword would effortlessly one shot them...

RKT has never had the necrosword. The necrosword was created from the energy of a celestial. To suggest it would effortlessly one shot 4 celestials is bollocks. People wielding the Necrosword have been defeated by others way below celestial levels.

Also, the Necrosword tends to do what it wants anyway.

Why do you keep mentioning rkt never having the necrosword? He has it in this battle, that is what matters.

You obviously are pulling shit out of your ass.

The necrosword can one shot celestials because it literally has. Knull literally effortlessly killed celestials with the necrosword. It can also effortlessly kill people like galactus.

The necrosword literally already one shot celestials... I don't know what you're complaining about here

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#56 Posted by Lord_Titan_ (2635 posts) - - Show Bio

Strange list, anyway he absolutely steamrolls up until cyttorak

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#57 Posted by BeerusRullezz (5 posts) - - Show Bio

He would dwarf Celestials, Galactus, and even Adult Franklin Richards at this level of power...

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#58 Posted by Aristeaus (1025 posts) - - Show Bio

@Aristeaus said:
@bowdowntodaddy said:

How exactly? The necrosword would effortlessly one shot them...

RKT has never had the necrosword. The necrosword was created from the energy of a celestial. To suggest it would effortlessly one shot 4 celestials is bollocks. People wielding the Necrosword have been defeated by others way below celestial levels.

Also, the Necrosword tends to do what it wants anyway.

Why do you keep mentioning rkt never having the necrosword? He has it in this battle, that is what matters.

You obviously are pulling shit out of your ass.

The necrosword can one shot celestials because it literally has. Knull literally effortlessly killed celestials with the necrosword. It can also effortlessly kill people like galactus.

The necrosword literally already one shot celestials... I don't know what you're complaining about here

You can't describe imaginary powers to people that have never had them. There are no feats to attribute to them. What if wolverine had the necrosword and the phoenix force? Herp derp. There is no logical discussion when that stuff happens.

Knull used All-Black to kill a celestial, but the celestial wasnt even paying attention to knull. Galactus tanked 3-4 hits from King Thor with Necrosword. Even though Thor was winning, the Necrosword left him for Galactus. This happens all the time. Introducing the necrosword into a battle is just as likely to transfer to the opponent, then it is to benefit the original user.

Knull was defeated by a random, unnamed gold armored god. Gorr was defeated by Thor. Galactus was defeated by Ego. Ego was defeated by Loki. All of these people had the necrosword.

Regular thor was able to knock out Gorr and severely injure him with lightning ( it took 4 days to heal ).

Most of the killing was off screen, and aside from the very first kill ( Knull, on the only Celestial we saw die to it ), none of them were effortless.

The Necrosword makes you stronger, but its not a multiplier. If you give it to LT, hes not all of the sudden able to "effortlessly" kill TOAA.

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#59 Posted by Crytodaddykid (27 posts) - - Show Bio

@crytodaddykid said:
@Aristeaus said:
@bowdowntodaddy said:

How exactly? The necrosword would effortlessly one shot them...

RKT has never had the necrosword. The necrosword was created from the energy of a celestial. To suggest it would effortlessly one shot 4 celestials is bollocks. People wielding the Necrosword have been defeated by others way below celestial levels.

Also, the Necrosword tends to do what it wants anyway.

Why do you keep mentioning rkt never having the necrosword? He has it in this battle, that is what matters.

You obviously are pulling shit out of your ass.

The necrosword can one shot celestials because it literally has. Knull literally effortlessly killed celestials with the necrosword. It can also effortlessly kill people like galactus.

The necrosword literally already one shot celestials... I don't know what you're complaining about here

You can't describe imaginary powers to people that have never had them. There are no feats to attribute to them. What if wolverine had the necrosword and the phoenix force? Herp derp. There is no logical discussion when that stuff happens.

Knull used All-Black to kill a celestial, but the celestial wasnt even paying attention to knull. Galactus tanked 3-4 hits from King Thor with Necrosword. Even though Thor was winning, the Necrosword left him for Galactus. This happens all the time. Introducing the necrosword into a battle is just as likely to transfer to the opponent, then it is to benefit the original user.

Knull was defeated by a random, unnamed gold armored god. Gorr was defeated by Thor. Galactus was defeated by Ego. Ego was defeated by Loki. All of these people had the necrosword.

Regular thor was able to knock out Gorr and severely injure him with lightning ( it took 4 days to heal ).

Most of the killing was off screen, and aside from the very first kill ( Knull, on the only Celestial we saw die to it ), none of them were effortless.

The Necrosword makes you stronger, but its not a multiplier. If you give it to LT, hes not all of the sudden able to "effortlessly" kill TOAA.

this is just a weapon being wielded not really a power. Wolverine has had the phoenix force before.

That isnt how the necrosword works, it doesnt randomly leave you, it never left thor for galactus what are you talking about. Galactus went up against ego when the necrosword took him over iirc.

The necrosword boosts your stats depending on how much godblood is in it... so you can't really focus only on one person wielding the necrosword and compare it to another person wielding it.

Whether the necrosword amps your physicals or not, its still capable of easily killing and overpowering pretty much every character in comics outside of abstract beings.

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#60 Posted by Aristeaus (1025 posts) - - Show Bio

@Aristeaus said:
@crytodaddykid said:
@Aristeaus said:
@bowdowntodaddy said:

How exactly? The necrosword would effortlessly one shot them...

RKT has never had the necrosword. The necrosword was created from the energy of a celestial. To suggest it would effortlessly one shot 4 celestials is bollocks. People wielding the Necrosword have been defeated by others way below celestial levels.

Also, the Necrosword tends to do what it wants anyway.

Why do you keep mentioning rkt never having the necrosword? He has it in this battle, that is what matters.

You obviously are pulling shit out of your ass.

The necrosword can one shot celestials because it literally has. Knull literally effortlessly killed celestials with the necrosword. It can also effortlessly kill people like galactus.

The necrosword literally already one shot celestials... I don't know what you're complaining about here

You can't describe imaginary powers to people that have never had them. There are no feats to attribute to them. What if wolverine had the necrosword and the phoenix force? Herp derp. There is no logical discussion when that stuff happens.

Knull used All-Black to kill a celestial, but the celestial wasnt even paying attention to knull. Galactus tanked 3-4 hits from King Thor with Necrosword. Even though Thor was winning, the Necrosword left him for Galactus. This happens all the time. Introducing the necrosword into a battle is just as likely to transfer to the opponent, then it is to benefit the original user.

Knull was defeated by a random, unnamed gold armored god. Gorr was defeated by Thor. Galactus was defeated by Ego. Ego was defeated by Loki. All of these people had the necrosword.

Regular thor was able to knock out Gorr and severely injure him with lightning ( it took 4 days to heal ).

Most of the killing was off screen, and aside from the very first kill ( Knull, on the only Celestial we saw die to it ), none of them were effortless.

The Necrosword makes you stronger, but its not a multiplier. If you give it to LT, hes not all of the sudden able to "effortlessly" kill TOAA.

this is just a weapon being wielded not really a power. Wolverine has had the phoenix force before.

That isnt how the necrosword works, it doesnt randomly leave you, it never left thor for galactus what are you talking about. Galactus went up against ego when the necrosword took him over iirc.

The necrosword boosts your stats depending on how much godblood is in it... so you can't really focus only on one person wielding the necrosword and compare it to another person wielding it.

Whether the necrosword amps your physicals or not, its still capable of easily killing and overpowering pretty much every character in comics outside of abstract beings.

It does randomly leave you. It has always done that.

Knull had it, lost a fight ( or draw, i guess ) to a random unnamed god, fell to a planet, it left him for Gorr. Gorr, a regular mortal. Over its creator, a universe predating god. Thor had it, fought Galactus. won, it was thought to be destroyed, Galactus went to Mars to consume it, Necrosword merged with Galactus. Galactus fought Ego, Necrosword left Galactus for Ego. And on and on and on.

In most of these cases, it left its current user for someone weaker then them. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it.

Yeah, the Necrosword is scaling depending on godblood, but it also uses up that power and needs to be replenished. Even if we consider the necrosword a freaking Lightsaber that can cut through anything, and kill anything, you still have to be able to hit your target. And we know that people with the Necrosword have lost fights to people far, far weaker then a Celestial, much less 4.

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#61 Posted by BreakOfDawn (2021 posts) - - Show Bio

@breakofdawn said:

With the necrosword and all of the other amps he gets to Franklin or clears.

Again, not sure how people are saying this.

Franklin could not defeat 3 celestials. He had to BFR them to buy himself time. He was losing.

I get how people could argue that RKT clears, but for anyone to suggest Franklin is the stop here is just woefully ignorant, and suggest you know nothing about him. In the worst possible sense. You guys know 4 is greater then 3 right?

I'm being generous. He more than likely clears.