@miriotogata:
The entirety of your post is that --- said stuff was called "laser/light" hence it's LS and everyone and their mothers scales above, ha!
A pretty flawed strawman for rather obvious reasons, reading is a rather basic skill perhaps you should come back to present some arguments after you've developed said skill.
Since I'm feeling generous today I'll give you a quick summary. My post covers 3 relevant points
- Speed Feats against LS attacks
- Direct statements in the verse of magic being natural and thus Light in FT actually being Light
- Actual feats of magic being natural to back up the statements
So unless your abrupt arguments are based of the above, your not really adding or addressing anything of relevance here.
...If being called "laser" would be enough to put a feat and/or char at LS then MHA would be one of the fastest verses of WSJ ever, since even low tier heroes used powers and stuff named "lasers". BoS Ichigo, Ishida (so several chapters before even meeting Renji and Byakuya) and random Menos would all be LS to FTL...
Mentioning irrelevant characters doesn't really add much to the points being discussed here, if you've got nothing of noteworth to add, then there's not much point trying to add anything
In order to be a real laser or light (hence LS) you have to provide solid arguments that would support said "hurr durr laser" being lightspeed.
1. Being made of natural light/photons.
2. Coming from a natural source of light, like the sun.
3. Being a straight line-attack.
4. Do not curve.
5. Do not explode.
6. Being stated to move at lightspeed even if one or more of those ^ 5 points is broken.
Creating personal rules as to what you think dictates certain things is rather depserate, all that really needs to be proved here is that FT Light operates in a similar man to irl light (which I've already done) these weird specific points don't really make much sense since FT and most manga's as a whole don't follow real world physics to a tea.
This was debunked... actually further explained later on, thanks to Edolas Arc:
Not much has really been debunked here... it just seems rather desperate
1) I mean c'mon man this is your argument:
Ethernano Particles are not present in the atmosphere at all, only in some devices, objects, and weapons, hence Natsu, Wendy & Co. that are from the normal world (Earthland) cannot perform any kind of magic nor they can eat/use the natural elements of the environment to perform magics. Turning them into mere humans.
Example: Wendy cannot use natural wind to perform Wind Magic --- Faris cannot use natural water to perform Aqua Area.
All the above means is that Ethernano is what allows them to use natural elements alongside their magic, in a dimension without it obviously they can't use it, but that doesn't mean they can't use natural elements whatsover since, we already know that in dimensions with ethernano they can use natural magic. It's pretty easy to understand
- No Ethernano = No Natural Magic
- Ethernano = Natural Magic
This is also supported by the fact that Makarov says "the world" (which has ethernano) he doesn't say the world + other dimensions without ethernano.
So no this doesn't prove that FT characters can't use natural elements all together, since we already know they can, it proves that they need ethernano to do this and in dimensions without it they can't.
So your going to need something far more concrete to support you absurd claim...
Sting is NOT the light dragon slayer... he's the white dragon slayer and eats white-powers and stuff. His so called "lasers" are not light-roars... those are white-roars.
A real laser does NOT curve, unless if it hits a considerable mass of water.
Base Natsu being FTL thus everyone in GMG scales falls down like a sand-castle due to a certain Rufus blitzing Natsu-equivalents, like Gray, Leon and Juvia... with lightning magic directly stated to be dodgable withing 2 seconds from where you see it in the sky (it's a subsonic...)
The above doesn't really add much since it's based of your flawed Edolas argument, which has already been addressed and debunked
That's right. I'm gonna talk about Lightning Magic and its disappointing speed that, as stated by Mavis who's one of the most intelligent character of the whole series and a master tactician, can be dodged within 2 secondsfrom the time you see it coming against you...as you can see the distance between Rufus' Lightning Magic and the ground was around 50-70 meters at best.
Not only that previously the likes of Gray, Lyon and Juvia got blitzed by it...but FT Team needed Mavis' knowledge and preparation in order to figure out how to dodge it.
Not really discussing lightning here, mainly Light. But even derailing slightly, as already stated the elements are natural, hence lightning is lightning now Laxus being an active character, isn't stagnant and has gone through several amps and power increases throughout the series, so even though Laxus makes use of natural lightning his personal stats have surpassed that tier quite a long time ago.
It's similar to characters like DMS Kakashi and Rinnegan Sasuke, even though they use "lightning speed attacks" their personal stats are waaaay above lightning level.
In other words dodging Lightning Magic would be a subsonic-to-transonic speed feat.
Makarov already explained why this is not the case all the way back in chapter 1 and as already stated Laxus's personal stats are far above baseline Lightning level, so your flawed attempts at calculation proves nothing as these are just things we already know, you'd have to ignore direct statements from the manga and under go a range of mental gymnastics to come to your flawed conclusion.
You have Tartaros Arc chars, like Wendy and Lucy, getting pressed down and almost killed by a random not-mage treasure hunter blasting them with a common riffle.
Again... real light does NOT curve...
Real light does NOT explode...
And real light does NOT emit the sound of the explosion the moment it touches an object...
Larcade was throwing those attacks with his hands. It's like saying me throwing a bullet with my bare hands = same speed of blasting it with a riffle.
The above are things that have already been addressed and are intentionally ignoring context to present a flawed argument. Rather basic things: Riffle using magic power =/= random irl Riffle, Natural Light + Magic =/= Just Natural Light, Comparing yourself to a fictional character etc honestly the desperation is showing
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