Bullseye. Even if Rorschach has slightly better technique, Bullseye is likely to be: -Faster -More agile -More durable (adamantium) -And every bit as ruthless
"trick thread bullseye always carries a weapon and can use almost anything as a weapon. Bullseye wins "
@gandalf3219 said: The rule is he can't use anything as a weapon. So just assume he actually wants to slug it out. Here is what the thread creator stated:
"No he can't even use toothpicks or anything like that just a brawl with their dukes thats fists if you didn't know. "
"trick thread bullseye always carries a weapon and can use almost anything as a weapon. Bullseye wins "
@gandalf3219 said: The rule is he can't use anything as a weapon. So just assume he actually wants to slug it out. Here is what the thread creator stated:
"No he can't even use toothpicks or anything like that just a brawl with their dukes thats fists if you didn't know. "
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Bullseye wins, Rorshach is not even close to as good a fighter.
" Bullseye. Even if Rorschach has slightly better technique, Bullseye is likely to be:-Faster-More agile-More durable (adamantium)-And every bit as ruthless "
And he doesn't. Bullseye's fighting skill is almost on par with Daredevil and Elektra.
" I'm well aware of his skill, but not 100% on Rorschach's, which is why I said that. "
Rorschach never had proper training, at least to my knowledge. He is usually brutally effective, but when he went up against a skilled opponent (Ozymandias) he couldn't even touch him.
Never saw the film; the graphic novel is considered a masterpiece, however. Great structure and writing, but generally, I wasn't impressed. Funny thing is, Rorschach was the only character I cared about, and voted against him twice in a few hours.
Well if Bullseye has no weapons then Rorshach will kick his ass cause he's a better fighter than him.
Rorschach is well versed in street combat, gymnastics, and boxing. In the course of the limited series he showed the ability to best multiple armed assailants with little difficulty. At one point it is implied that he held down the entire Lower East side of Manhattan from rioters. Rorschach is also relatively indifferent to physical pain and discomfort. He is also shown to be extremely strong. This is demonstrated when he shatters a toilet bowl by kicking it once, and easily breaking through a lock that gave an entire team of police officers more trouble.
Well if Bullseye has no weapons then Rorshach will kick his ass cause he's a better fighter than him.Rorschach is well versed in street combat, gymnastics, and boxing. In the course of the limited series he showed the ability to best multiple armed assailants with little difficulty. At one point it is implied that he held down the entire Lower East side of Manhattan from rioters. Rorschach is also relatively indifferent to physical pain and discomfort.He is also shown to be extremely strong. This is demonstrated when he shatters a toilet bowl by kicking it once, and easily breaking through a lock that gave an entire team of police officers more trouble.I vote for Rorshach. "
He is not a better h2h fighter than Bullseye. And congratulations, apparently you can copy and paste from wikipedia. Now what about any real reasons?
Well if Bullseye has no weapons then Rorshach will kick his ass cause he's a better fighter than him.Rorschach is well versed in street combat, gymnastics, and boxing. In the course of the limited series he showed the ability to best multiple armed assailants with little difficulty. At one point it is implied that he held down the entire Lower East side of Manhattan from rioters. Rorschach is also relatively indifferent to physical pain and discomfort.He is also shown to be extremely strong. This is demonstrated when he shatters a toilet bowl by kicking it once, and easily breaking through a lock that gave an entire team of police officers more trouble.I vote for Rorshach."
And Bullseye can hold his own against ninjas like Elektra and Daredevil. Rorschach is good, but Bullseye is better.
Well if Bullseye has no weapons then Rorshach will kick his ass cause he's a better fighter than him.Rorschach is well versed in street combat, gymnastics, and boxing. In the course of the limited series he showed the ability to best multiple armed assailants with little difficulty. At one point it is implied that he held down the entire Lower East side of Manhattan from rioters. Rorschach is also relatively indifferent to physical pain and discomfort.He is also shown to be extremely strong. This is demonstrated when he shatters a toilet bowl by kicking it once, and easily breaking through a lock that gave an entire team of police officers more trouble.I vote for Rorshach. "
He is not a better h2h fighter than Bullseye. And congratulations, apparently you can copy and paste from wikipedia. Now what about any real reasons? "
And? Because everything they said there is true. So why shouldn't I?
And I'm not saying that Bullseye has no chance. But my opinion is that Rorshach will win. That's all.
Well if Bullseye has no weapons then Rorshach will kick his ass cause he's a better fighter than him.Rorschach is well versed in street combat, gymnastics, and boxing. In the course of the limited series he showed the ability to best multiple armed assailants with little difficulty. At one point it is implied that he held down the entire Lower East side of Manhattan from rioters. Rorschach is also relatively indifferent to physical pain and discomfort.He is also shown to be extremely strong. This is demonstrated when he shatters a toilet bowl by kicking it once, and easily breaking through a lock that gave an entire team of police officers more trouble.I vote for Rorshach. "
He is not a better h2h fighter than Bullseye. And congratulations, apparently you can copy and paste from wikipedia. Now what about any real reasons? "
And? Because everything they said there is true. So why shouldn't I?And I'm not saying that Bullseye has no chance. But my opinion is that Rorshach will win. That's all. "
Also true, is that when he faced a character with some proper training (Ozymandias) he was beaten with particular ease...But of course that isn't said on wikipedia...There is nothing wrong about using wikipedia, Marvel - DC wiki, Handbooks, or the Comic vine search option; you can get a basic idea, and use it with the things you already remember... but at least, I see no need at plagiarizing...
Also true, is that when he faced a character with some proper training (Ozymandias) he was beaten with particular ease... "
You mean in a movie? "
I have not seen the film; I base my knowledge on the graphic novel. In the GN, Ozymandias fights Night Owl and Rorschach at the same time, without breaking a sweat...
Ozymandias beats Rorschach h2h without even trying; and Bullseye casually goes toe to toe with DD & Electra, both of which I consider better fighters than Ozymandias...
" Yeah...it was in Watchmen movie too. But Ozymandias has a superhuman speed. Cause he can catch a bullet with his hand. At least he did in the movie. "
Wrong. He has no superhuman speed. He is peak human. Catching the bullet was PIS. He said he could do it, and he did. But no matter how agile, he shouldn't have. Same thing goes of course, for guys like Captain America, or Batman (supposedly peak human, but their feats prove otherwise).
He is peak human. Catching the bullet was PIS. He said he could do it, and he did. But no matter how agile, he shouldn't have. Same thing goes of course, for guys like Captain America, or Batman (supposedly peak human, but their feats prove otherwise). "
Come on. Catching the bullet ... is not in a human potential.Bullets are too fast for humans.And Captain America was improved by the super-soldier serum.
He is peak human. Catching the bullet was PIS. He said he could do it, and he did. But no matter how agile, he shouldn't have. Same thing goes of course, for guys like Captain America, or Batman (supposedly peak human, but their feats prove otherwise). "
Come on. Catching the bullet ... is not in a human potential.Bullets are too fast for humans.And Captain America was improved by the super-soldier serum. "
He was improved by the super soldier serum which made him, what..? That's right, peak human in all aspects. And that's what PIS means - Plot Induced Stupidity; Moore had decided for Ozymandias to "win", so that "evil", would not only prevail, but get away with it. That wouldn't be so right if he ended up shot, right? So, he caught the bullet, because the writer wanted him to catch it, not because he could. Nothing difficult about it.
" He was improved by the super soldier serum which made him, what..? That's right, peak human in all aspects. And that's what PIS means - Plot Induced Stupidity; Moore had decided for Ozymandias to "win", so that "evil", would not only prevail, but get away with it. That wouldn't be so right if he ended up shot, right? So, he caught the bullet, because the writer wanted him to catch it, not because he could. Nothing difficult about it. "
I think Rorshach but it would be close. The only reason Bullseye can battle against ninjas like Elektra and Daredevil is his marksmanship skills. On his power grid he only has 4 fighting skills so I say they are about even in combat. A 4 is experienced fighter ; I think Rorshach would go under this category plus Rorshach is smarter he is said to be unpredictable and tatically brilliant.
" I think Rorshach but it would be close. The only reason Bullseye can battle against ninjas like Elektra and Daredevil is his marksmanship skills. On his power grid he only has 4 fighting skills so I say they are about even in combat. A 4 is experienced fighter ; I think Rorshach would go under this category plus Rorshach is smarter he is said to be unpredictable and tatically brilliant. "
....Perhaps you should actually read more stuff involving Bullseye, because he'd clearly be above a 4. He has had hand to hand encounters with both Elektra and Daredevil and was able to hold his own quite well.
" Wrong. He has no superhuman speed. He is peak human. Catching the bullet was PIS. He said he could do it, and he did. But no matter how agile, he shouldn't have. Same thing goes of course, for guys like Captain America, or Batman (supposedly peak human, but their feats prove otherwise). "
I won't blame you, since you haven't seen the movie yet, but all of the Watchmen characters are bulked way the hell up in physical abilities to make the fights more entertaining, so it's possible that they have "superhuman" speed in the film. They show examples of physical abilities that are physically impossible by human standards (Ozy hits Rorschach with a kick so hard in the face in the film, he literally flies something like fifteen feet away). Rorschach gets a crazy-as-hell addition to the police raid scene from the comic, even.
Anyways, to the thread at hand, the original graphic novel Rorschach would get stomped by Bullseye.
" Wrong. He has no superhuman speed. He is peak human. Catching the bullet was PIS. He said he could do it, and he did. But no matter how agile, he shouldn't have. Same thing goes of course, for guys like Captain America, or Batman (supposedly peak human, but their feats prove otherwise). "
I won't blame you, since you haven't seen the movie yet, but all of the Watchmen characters are bulked way the hell up in physical abilities to make the fights more entertaining, so it's possible that they have "superhuman" speed in the film. They show examples of physical abilities that are physically impossible by human standards (Ozy hits Rorschach with a kick so hard in the face in the film, he literally flies something like fifteen feet away). Rorschach gets a crazy-as-hell addition to the police raid scene from the comic, even.Anyways, to the thread at hand, the original graphic novel Rorschach would get stomped by Bullseye. "
I can agree with that; but I already stated I was only counting the original version. And that is how it happens in all the battle threads, unless specifically stated otherwise in the OP. If this were Bullseye vs Film version of Rorschach, I wouldn't have responded.
"I can agree with that; but I already stated I was only counting the original version. And that is how it happens in all the battle threads, unless specifically stated otherwise in the OP. If this were Bullseye vs Film version of Rorschach, I wouldn't have responded. "
...Seems quite flawed...But that's just my opinion. If you don't mind checking, what is the ranking for Spider-Man, Wolverine, Hulk and Captain America? This will allow me to see how they "judge" hand to hand.
"I can agree with that; but I already stated I was only counting the original version. And that is how it happens in all the battle threads, unless specifically stated otherwise in the OP. If this were Bullseye vs Film version of Rorschach, I wouldn't have responded. "
"I can agree with that; but I already stated I was only counting the original version. And that is how it happens in all the battle threads, unless specifically stated otherwise in the OP. If this were Bullseye vs Film version of Rorschach, I wouldn't have responded. "
My bad. "
No one's bad. We are in agreement. "
Well... I agree too. (Movie characters were little different.)
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