Revolutionary Commanders vs Admirals

Rev army mainly due to numbers. Guys like Sabo alone can match any admiral blow for blow.

Rev win

Sabo wasn't dubbed the flame emperor for nothing.

My head Canon anime trope tells me Sabo is equal to luffy.

The Admirals should wreck unless this is supposed to be another thing where the Admirals have to hold back due to the CDs.

Obviously the Admirals.

@cocacolaman: "holding back" only applies to DF use.

No reason fugitora or greenbull needed to hold back using observation or armament haki.

The lower Rev commanders were still matching their haki just fine in 1v1. Yes, DF gives an obvious buff, but it's still 7v3

And there is no reason to suggest prime Kuma and ivankov aren't >>>>the 4 commanders.

@captain_inverse: It’s more than just Devil Fruits. The Admirals had to focus on causing as little destruction as possible, which is incredibly easy to do when using any reasonably powerful attack. They didn’t have to hold back on CoO but they did for their DF use (which is major,) their Armament Haki, and their actual strength. You can compare how Greenbull did against Morley in the Holy Land to what he was doing in Wano, where the entire land was being transformed constantly by his basic attacks.

Admirals destroy these clowns

@wushu59 said:

Revos are carried by Dragon.

Lol, fkn Morley and Karasu fought Fuji & Aramaki 1 on 1 and didn't get slaughtered, all seven slaughters AdmiraLs, Sabo > Kuzan, Sabo > Greenbull, people kept wanking AdmiraLs they forgot to mention King Queen were severely weakened and injured

Sabo seems to be the only one that can take on an Admiral currently. Without Dragon they probably lose.

@cocacolaman: I understand that the admirals at the holy land were heavily handicapped. I'd also say that fighting an admiral,at any capacity, is a good feat.

I don't see Kuzans flashfreeze working any better on the 4 blue commanders than it did to doffy, especially with Sabo right there.

Ivankov trained sanji. While you can attribute much of Sanjis fighting to Germa biotech, haki was taught to him by Ivankov. So clearly, Ivankov has very good CoO.

Prime Kuma is hard for me to gauge, I'm assuming he was stronger before the operation. (With the most broken DF here.)

I feel Sabo should be able to beat anyone here high diff 1v1. Question is, can he before the rest of his team is overwhelmed? I think yes. Sabo(even fatigued) should be enough to tip the scales in a 2v5/6 fight.

Do you think your opinion might change if we see more Kuma/Emporio?

Admirals should take it unless dragon does something.

@captain_inverse:

I understand that the admirals at the holy land were heavily handicapped. I'd also say that fighting an admiral,at any capacity, is a good feat.

It's a good feat in a general sense, but their opponents here are the Admirals so it doesn't help too much here.

I don't see Kuzans flashfreeze working any better on the 4 blue commanders than it did to doffy, especially with Sabo right there.

Fair point about Sabo. It depends on the type of flash freeze. If he does something like Ice Block, then Sabo could melt them out, but if he freezes them to the core it would be a one-shot basically.

Ivankov trained sanji. While you can attribute much of Sanjis fighting to Germa biotech, haki was taught to him by Ivankov. So clearly, Ivankov has very good CoO.

Fair I guess

Prime Kuma is hard for me to gauge, I'm assuming he was stronger before the operation. (With the most broken DF here.)

I got Kuma on the same level as Law and Kidd tbh

I feel Sabo should be able to beat anyone here high diff 1v1. Question is, can he before the rest of his team is overwhelmed? I think yes. Sabo(even fatigued) should be enough to tip the scales in a 2v5/6 fight.

Why? I got Sabo at Admiral level but not above any of the actual Admirals. They all have better Fruits and stats and Haki at least as good. And Kizaru rn is going at it with Luffy, and was apparently strong enough to beat Gear 4th.

Do you think your opinion might change if we see more Kuma/Emporio?

Ivankov would need to show something insanely good for me to put him near the Admirals. Kuma is a wildcard, he could very well be insanely strong, so if he shows out later I might have him as strong enough to give the Admirals a good fight.

Using feats, any admiral solos except of Fujitora lol wtf.

@cocacolaman: you don't seem as though you hold Ivankov and Kuma in the same regard.

They are contemporaries, Ivankov being Sanjis teacher was picked by Oda along with Mihawk and Rayleigh for the monster trio. I think the teachers are all somewhere between 1st commanders and admiral.

I'd say Sabo is at least admiral level but that is partially my head Canon of who is see him fighting endgame. I'd also say Sabos DF Light,ice=fire,forest.

Perhaps the admirals do win for now but I think this is a lot closer than most give it credit to be.

Lol, as good as Sabo and Kuma are, without dragon they get washed

2 Admirals are enough

They Admirals stomp without awakening. At this point I hope the rev are carried by Dragon