Morals off for all
Takes place in Smallville
@kanyecosby: Whats his best combat speed feat again? Thawne also actually uses versatility and his other powers like remnants, mirages etc. which will be tricky for this Supes (As hes by far the weakest comic Supes)
Rebuilding the entire moon in the time it takes for him and batman to have a conversation.
Rebirth clark shitstomps any cw speedster.
@tonymartial: Here are some speed feats.
Here he perceives the event of Doctor Manhattan taking his mother away, an event which happened in a nanosecond.
There’s also the feat of him moving in femtoseconds and attoseconds, but that’s obviously an outlier and it doesn‘t really make sense as a feat.
Here is a feat by Supergirl who Superman scales to, when she wrote a few quintillion codes in the blink of an eye. That’s a MFTL feat.
Here Barry and Wally are moving at MFTL speeds. They were moving so fast that Steve Trevor had to slow the video by a trillionth of a second just to see them. None of the league are able to see them, but Superman is able to not only perceive their movements, but almost catch up to them in speed, although admittedly Superman himself says they’re moving to fast for him. However this is still a MFTL feat of perception and movement by Superman.
Here is FTL combat speed feat of Superman blitzing an armada from 746 million miles away.
Here he rebuilds the entire moon in seconds. This is a clear cut MFTL feat along with a strength feat, because he would have to be moving many of these large pieces together.
Rebirth Superman isn’t really that weak anymore. Sure he started off weak but he has only grown more powerful over time. He is by far the fastest modern version of Superman in combat speed. Not to mention that just recently he casually destroyed a planet. Something that neither Post Crisis nor New 52 ever did.
@eobard21: That picosecond feat seems like an outlier. If we are going by outliers, Superman scales to Supergirl who wrote a few quintillion codes in the blink of an eye, and plus there is that Superman feat of him moving in femtoseconds and attoseconds. Even when we go by more consistent feats, Superman has already reacted in a picosecond time frame to the comic Flash and he rebuilt trillions of pieces of the moon together in seconds.
Superman doesn’t even need to be close to Eobard to win. Superman’s destructive capability would enable him to easily kill Eobard.
Also would time traveling to kill a younger Superman even work? Rebirth Superman is the merging of two different versions of Superman together.
@kanyecosby: I don't think that it's an outlier cause we have seen slower speedsters like Godspeed being so fast that a trillon Fps camera Who could take light in motion not being able to perceive him and Godspeed could perceive microwaves in his fight against Nora and Barry is leagues leagues above Godspeed
Eobard is faster than Barry Who can make a nuclear bomb frozen etc
Nora Also went through a breach that closed in less than 3 picosecond in one epi and she's also slower than Eobard
Oh yeah idk if It could work now that you said it
Also like I said hes so fast that hé can be at two places at once and also uses like 100 time remnants
Faster than Barry Who can run at picosecond speed
The whole point of that instance is that he wasn't fast enough to do it so he amped himself, Caitlin said that absorbing those plates gave him a huge boost. Also, Thawne wasn't all that faster than Barry, if at all, only more skilled, I mean Nora was right behind him as well and we know that she's much slower than her dad. Speedsters have chased after each other in literally every fight they've had (discounting Speed Force-stuck-Savitar who just embarrassed everyone), it's a trope of the shows, it's far from an accurate way to compare speedsters, especially in a show that doesn't give two shits about power levels.
so fast that hé can be at two places at once (like comic Godspeed)
If you're referring to the season finale fight I think the second Thawne was supposed to be a time remnant. Even if it was some new "power" or technique, that doesn't prove anything. Being in two places at the same time isn't a quantifiable level of speed, it's just a stupid power, no amount of speed allows you to clone yourself.
plus he can BFR superman
I don't remember Thawne ever BFRing anyone. Are you talking about taking Superman into the SF, or the Negative SF at least. Because Thawne is not moving Superman a single inch if Clark doesn't want to, which logically is as soon as the fight starts.
or time travel to kill him when he's younger
Disregarding that Prime Earth Superman is from a completely different multiverse, that's not something Thawne's ever done, IIRC his plan from the beginning was to kill Barry's mom.
@darkhoudini: Barry was right behind him too..and no that wasn't time remnant, This is different.
Also Barry amped himself the second time yeah but the first time he tried to run through this breach he was like really close to go through it iirc
And yeah thats why I said i'M not sure that time travel would work on Supes (probably can't)
Nope just a version of superman that dives into black holes bench presses earth for days and flys across the universe in 60 days...... I can show you golden age, pre and post crisis superman also getting dropped by phasing to....but k
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