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Superman due to having most advantages. It would be a bit more fair if speed was equalized

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Rulks absorption abilities should come in handy and his durability should allow him to survive an initial blitz, still see Superman winning though

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Current Superman is the one from Post-Crisis. If we aren't taking that as a factor, Rulk wins. If so, Supes blitzes and can deal pretty good damage.

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Rulk wins, his energy absorption and the fact he'll be constantly getting stronger as he gets madder gives him an edge over supes.

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Superman blitzes

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Clark, although if Rulk was willing to drain that might change things tbh.

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If rulk has draining he wins

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Superman

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After thinking Rulk could easily beat him with draining and if not he could at least give Superman a beatdown after the initial blitz

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Clark.

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@sonochinosadame: Rulk doesn’t get stronger with rage just hotter (he can actually overheat if he goes overboard), unless something changed.

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Clark‘s got pretty much ever advantage, Rulk’s only hope is draining, then again Supes has speed on his side so he can probably end the fight quick enough more times than not.

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Loeb Force stomp

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Superman.

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Superman beats the crap out of him.

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Superman pummels him.

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#19  Edited By Cybernetics

Why threads like this always get this kind of attention? this battle is like common sense that SUperman is above Red Hulk, but when is some C-Lister characters battle never done before is made, no one gives a crap

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Why threads like this always get this kind of attention? this battle is like common sense that SUperman is above Red Hulk, but when is some C-Lister characters battle never done before is made, no one gives a crap

You answered your own question.

OT: Clark slaps unless Rulk drains. Really not that complicated.

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Clark do 2 versatility & speed

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Clark beats the everloving shit out of him

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Superman would beat him handily unless Ross has the draining shtick.

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@jiggs1234: Is Rulk allowed to have the LoebForce?

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Superman

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@panzerx said:

Clark beats the everloving shit out of him

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@takenstew22:

I just assumed their fighting at they're best.

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#32 god_spawn  Moderator

@takenstew22 : Why does Loebforce need to be stated? It’s not like an actual amp or anything.

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#33 takenstew22  Moderator

@takenstew22 : Why does Loebforce need to be stated? It’s not like an actual amp or anything.

Because he was in PIS mode while written by Leob, obviously.

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@god_spawn said:

@takenstew22 : Why does Loebforce need to be stated? It’s not like an actual amp or anything.

I sorta meant that as a joke. But you are correct. That horrendous comic that I posted scans from is technically considered cannon. Unless something has changed recently.

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#35 god_spawn  Moderator

@takenstew22: I mean thats still not really an amp, and Loeb created the character and depicted him as powerful and ridiculous as he thought he should’ve been. I mean, he very much had that character decay over time and streamlined eventually, but still, not an amp. Just showings to be really tossed out.

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#36 takenstew22  Moderator

and Loeb created the character and depicted him as powerful and ridiculous as he thought he should’ve been.

Which is why it's called Leob Force.

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#37  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

@takenstew22: But it’s not an actual amp. So not like it has to be stated.

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#38  Edited By ProfessorRespect

@takenstew22 said:
@god_spawn said:

and Loeb created the character and depicted him as powerful and ridiculous as he thought he should’ve been.

Which is why it's called Leob Force.

Actually "Leob Force" was explained as the excess energy from Rulk's draining from massive energy sources (Gamma, cosmic or otherwise) building up over time (as per MODOK's design) to make him stronger and stronger. When he renounced it due to health problems, he lost that extra power and thus was weaker.

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#39 takenstew22  Moderator

@takenstew22: But it’s not an actual amp. So not like it has to be stated.

But later versions don't have the same ridiculousness as Leob does. So yeah, it kinda does.

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@takenstew22 said:
@god_spawn said:

and Loeb created the character and depicted him as powerful and ridiculous as he thought he should’ve been.

Which is why it's called Leob Force.

Actually "Leob Force" was explained as the excess energy from Rulk's draining from massive energy sources (Gamma, cosmic or otherwise) building up over time (as per MODOK's design) to make him stronger and stronger. When he renounced it due to health problems, he lost that extra power and thus was weaker.

I thought that was a meme because Jeff Loeb wrote the story.

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#41 takenstew22  Moderator

@takenstew22 said:
@god_spawn said:

and Loeb created the character and depicted him as powerful and ridiculous as he thought he should’ve been.

Which is why it's called Leob Force.

Actually "Leob Force" was explained as the excess energy from Rulk's draining from massive energy sources (Gamma, cosmic or otherwise) building up over time (as per MODOK's design) to make him stronger and stronger. When he renounced it due to health problems, he lost that extra power and thus was weaker.

Rulk was all over the place in that story. I couldn't tell when he was amped by the energy he absorbed or got rid of it.

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Superman in a near mismatch.

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@jaggernutt: I Think Doomsday Outclass The Hulks Since Superman Died Fighting Him

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@takenstew22: Red Hulk wasn’t all over the place with Loeb. He just used his draining powers a lot more often. MODOK explained that’s what made him such a powerhouse and that wasn’t even under Loeb’s pencil. There’s no LoebForce, just Red Hulk using his powers like he was intended to do.

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@professorrespect said:
@takenstew22 said:
@god_spawn said:

and Loeb created the character and depicted him as powerful and ridiculous as he thought he should’ve been.

Which is why it's called Leob Force.

Actually "Leob Force" was explained as the excess energy from Rulk's draining from massive energy sources (Gamma, cosmic or otherwise) building up over time (as per MODOK's design) to make him stronger and stronger. When he renounced it due to health problems, he lost that extra power and thus was weaker.

I thought that was a meme because Jeff Loeb wrote the story.

Nah that's the "funny" meme that people use because they didn't actually read the series and just seen Rulk beating up guys like Terrax.

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Superman blitzstomps him

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#48  Edited By takenstew22  Moderator

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@jaggernutt: I Think Doomsday Outclass The Hulks Since Superman Died Fighting Him

Pretty sure that's Pre-Crisis Superman, and is that crossover even canon?

Also, I think I saw a scan of Hulk actually K.O.ing him in that issue.

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#49  Edited By takenstew22  Moderator

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@takenstew22: Red Hulk wasn’t all over the place with Loeb. He just used his draining powers a lot more often. MODOK explained that’s what made him such a powerhouse and that wasn’t even under Loeb’s pencil. There’s no LoebForce, just Red Hulk using his powers like he was intended to do.

That doesn't exactly explain how he was able to drain beings such as the Watcher, or fly through Dormammu with Surfer's powers, or struggling against other mid/high tiers with the same power. Again I don't exactly know what Leob wanted Rulk to be at.

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@professorrespect: unfortunately, but some C-Lister are interesting, maybe people in general just don't see it,