Red Hood vs Ninjak

Jason Todd/Red Hood

VS

Colin King/Ninjak

Rules:

• Jason Todd gets Post Crisis/New 52 feats.
• Ninjak gets current Valiant feats.
• Both have standard gear.
• Both are in character.

Fight starts here with the opponents 200 feet away:

Who wins?

@i_like_swords@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek

Assuming Red Hood doesn't have his alien tech or whatever that lets him insta-win his matches, I'll take Ninjak.

Stronger, faster, more skilled and experienced and has better tech. And he's likely better at stealth although I don't know any of Red Hoods stealth feats. Ninjak has some impressive ones though, which suggest he'd be able to make good use of this environment.

@i_like_swords: I read that Jason stealth took out all the titans in titans tower

@allstarsuperman: Guess that's impressive but that could also be attributed to the fact he would of prepped to do that, he knows the Titans well, and it was on home turf. And I doubt they were expecting it.

Ninjak routinely disappears infront of peoples eyes, has insane parkour skills (think Assassins Creed) and has only ever been picked up by X-O Manowars armor, which is sentient and extremely high tech. Ninjak infiltrated MI6's main base, assassinated the head agent (who was an alien masquerading as a human), and then escape, disappearing before the eyes of a helicopter gunman.

Ninjak also carries tranquilizer shuriken which he used to capture Aric (X-O Manowar) during his stealth attack on him. I see one or two of them skimming past Red Hoods arm, then boom lights out.

That or he gets flashbanged and stabbed. Or he gets a coin through the throat, face, heart or wherever else will do the job. Or Ninjak wastes his time challenging him to a sword fight, and wins hands down.

@i_like_swords: thanks for the big post, Truthfully I don't know a whole lot about Jason, I think this is a pretty even fight. Hopefully YNCG or another expert will come dump some feats.

I do know that Jason beat Green Arrow in a sword fight though, and GA is apparently awesome with a sword.

Oh, and not to lowball, but both Gilad and Aric were able to sneak up on Ninjak so it's not impossible.

I'd scan dump Ninjak for you but I'm not near any of my comics.. plus I haven't been following Unity thusfar. I'll be making a Ninjak respect thread one day though, unless someone does it first.

I don't know.. only feat I can remember of Green Arrow with a sword is when he fought Deathstroke. He trained for a year in sword fighting, prepped for Deathstroke, lured him to a battlefield where his feet were glued to the ground, and then pretty much stalemated him. Apart from that I can't remember any of his sword feats.

And all I really know about Jasons hand-to-hand is that Nightwing has embarrassed him and proven his superior decisively. Which is enough for me to suggest Ninjak can walk over him, given his training, experience and the expert knowledge he's pulled off in combat situations. I'd reckon Ninjak could take Green Arrow in a sword fight too.

@i_like_swords: New 52 Jason is apparently a lot more trained, and New 52 Jason and Dick haven't fought yet, IIRC.

@allstarsuperman: I thought they had. Ah well.

Btw I found an old Ninjak CAV of mine that might interest you:

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/cav-winter-soldier-veshark-vs-classic-ninjak-ils-1491835/

@i_like_swords: thanks, I skimmed that a while ago, I should read it all the way through.

Ninjak

@sync1@funsiized@god_spawn@pr0metheus

I don't know anything about Ninjak.

CaV: Winter Soldier (Veshark) vs. Classic Ninjak (ILS) - Battles - Comic Vine

I've just read about Ninjak on his wiki page and some of his feats, so as far I know, I would go with Red Hood.

Plus I'm one of the biggest Jason Todd fans, so I think I could make a good case defending him.

@transformers1024: can you enlighten me with some feats

I can't read it right now since its like 5am, If I remember, I will sometime tommorow but if he is on par or above Winter Soldier I think he may be too much for Jason even as skilled as he is during the N52.

Ninjak

Jason one shots him :P

colin king deploy nano drones, finds the dirty street urchin

sends a poisoned shuriken

then cuts his head off

You Sir are f*cking correct.

@i_like_swords: his fight with XO manowar is interesting, and he is in the same team as Gilead in Unity

lol no, read OP. Without Tynion writing the fight do you think Jason could win?

Redhood is using Magic & Alien Tech now....DA FUQ????????????

@allstarsuperman My comment had nothing to do with Tynion. In the New 52 ,Jason busted through a Submarine hull and tanked a nuke underwater.

And what allowed him to do that? Those feats are insane.

@i_like_swords I don't even know. Maybe Lobdell was high when he wrote the issue?

@dondave: Must have been.. I mean busting a submarine hull is a Captain America level strength feat and tanking a nuke.. well that's self explanatory.

Ninjak has cracked a bulletproof car windshield while driving in a car he was trapped in, that was quickly filling up with water. Which is impressive given the restrained state he was in. And he's been strong enough to stun and make bleed an opponent with a Wolverine level healing factor. So he's pretty good himself. Still nothing compared to what drug-induced Red Hood is capable of :p

Really? I thought Red Hood was pretty normal up until Tynion, but Lobdell wrote him wacky as well? Well I guess it still counts as a feat.

bump, just making sure you remember

Jason seems to be more skilled with dropping Shiva in a single hit and has a speed feat to match Ninjak's "throwing coins faster then the people can react"

Jason here kills dozens of Yazuka before they can even get a shot off and was capable of fighting an Unknown (IIRC that is what they are called) who had a healing factor similar to a T-1000 but the only weakness was Copper and Jason was able to defeat her in below 0 degree weather and after injuring himself to fuel his swords.

@pr0metheus: Nice, that's a pretty good feat, and he was younger at that time as well

@allstarsuperman: Yea, when I'm around my computer I'll upload some scans and write in the feats and what not. I would now, but I can't upload pics to ComicVine using my iPad.

@transformers1024: alls good. Cant wait to see them.

I don't know enough about ninja to pick a winner

@allstarsuperman: **11 months & 25 days later***

I'm uhh... Still hard at work compiling those scans & feats!!

@transformers1024: well.....red hood clearly wins...

Hmmmm ahahaha

Red hood

Redhood wins after a good match with mid difficulty. I really like ninjak from what I've read but I don't think he has the feats to support him beating a bane using, magic sword weilding, alien gun nut trained by batman and lady shiva.

@i_like_swords: @i_like_swords: jason on venom was able to somehow not be detected by supergirl. We don't know if the venom helped this in any way though.

Also all star when was the teen titans thing? Was that N52?

@thenewbluebeetle007: venom wouldn't make Jason any stealthier, off venom Jason has snuck up on Batman, Nightwing, and Drake before. And no, he "soloed" the teen titans Pre-Flashpoint.

heh

Ninjak

@allstarsuperman: would jason one shot? XD

@killerwasp: probably not, but he does have an answer for literally everything Ninjak could throw at him.

@allstarsuperman: I see I see XD, it'd still be a good fight to see is he ur favorite batman character/robin though?

Still Ninjak for me. Superior tactical mind, Superior Gear (since Jason does not have his magic swords), and training on par or surpassing his.

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