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- Ra's has his sword. Bane is unarmed.
- Frank has two knives. Elektra has her sai.
- Fight takes place in the streets of Venice
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Elektra and Punisher both have weapons, and Bane had no particular durability against edged weapons, so he's just as vulnerable as anyone else here.
Elektra's fight against Nobu shows she should be able to do well against Bane; Nobu is more skilled, and obviously more durable than Bane. Not only did Elektra beat 20 Hand on her own in that final fight--in a show where beating "fodder" has repeatedly been shown to be a worthwhile feat, as seen for instance in Frank's fight against the prisoners or Daredevil's multiple hallway fights, plus the fact that DD has found it to be a challenge fighting even 6-8 Hand--but after Nobu stabbed her, she took Nobu down with a back hand that kept him on the ground longer than any other time in the show other than when he fell off buildings, which shows a pretty solid striking power.
I'm not sure how Frank would do here against either of these guys. I could see him fighting pretty smart against Bane, and possibly taking him out given his weapons advantage. I think he'd do less well against Al Ghul, who is probably more skilled and has a weapon with a longer reach.
Elektra, on the other hand, was beating Stick, who had a katana, so we know the weapon reach isn't an issue, and Al ghul is arguably around Stick's skill level. I don't recall a ton of fighting feats for Al Ghul other than against Batman; it's hard to gauge these guys who only fight one opponent.
I see the overall battle as pretty close, probably going either way.
I'll side with the MCU.
Bane while the physical powerhouse and possibly the best H2H fighter here, is unarmed unlike everyone else. His durability and pain tolerance advantage means less here since both Elektra and Punisher have two bladed weapons to cut/stab him and enough overall combat ability to tag him multiple times.
Ras has limited feats with his sword while Elektra had the upperhand against Stick (who IMO is at least Nolan Ras level), disarmed and immediately killed Jacques DuChamps (an assassin Stick sent) with his own sais in like two moves, and has general feats of mowing through Hand ninjas, both with and without her sais. What has Ras shown in terms of swordsmanship that places him above accomplishing those level of feats?
Best match-up for the MCU side: Elektra vs Ras and Frank vs Bane. Frank has insane pain tolerance so getting down and dirty (phrasing) against Bane seems like it'd be right up his alley since he could take a bigger beating than Elektra if it comes down to it. Elektra has enough feats for her to take on Ras and come out on top a possibility. They might win if the match-ups were reversed but this way I could see a clear majority going in their favor.
@payneintheass: I am pretty sure he did. As far as he is concerned, the MCU characters are too weak to even fight out of a paper bag
I think that mainly applies to MCU Netflix characters.
Bane wins it for his team if the MCU duo somehow don't think to give his face a punch or just figure out the mask must be important. If they break the mask and avoid his initial raging freak out blows then they could potentially take both him and Ra's down in a good fight, but if not, and they're both Nolanly stupid, then Frank and Elektra eventually go down to Bane's pretty ludicrous strength. Elektra is more likely to get taken out first, though.
Bane isn't gonna just stand there and let them stab him. He has LoA training. He'd find something along the streets of Venice to defend himself with and then disarm. Even if he doesn't, i'm sure he'd be able to dodge and maneuver somehow to the point he can disarm one of the MCU fighters
I would consider Frank a brawler too. I agree that Elektra is the most skilled though.
I'm gonna have to go with Nolan team on this one. Ra's sword gives him a reach advantage, and Punisher, while a proficient Melee fighter isn't suited to this type of fight like the other three are, especially with the gear he's been given. Bane has no weapons and will definitely come out of this with more than a few puncture wounds/lacerations (the idea that Bane is going to ninja his way around getting hurt is ridiculous and completely contradicts the version of the character we saw in the movie) but he's strong and resilient enough to power through his injuries long enough to overpower either on team Netflix. Neither on team Nolan solos, but the team takes it handily.
Good fight. Frank seemed very lethal when he had a knife in his prison fight scene. He lands a hit and it most likely will be crippling or lethal. Ras is a better h2h fighter than frank. Id put frank against bane in a burtal fight that frank takes because of gear. Elektra i feel could take ras 50/50 then. Id give it to mcu 6/10
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