Ra's/Bane (Nolanverse) vs Punisher/Elektra (Netflix)

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#1 Posted by Killer_Judge_ (309 posts) - - Show Bio
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Rules:

  • Morals On/In Character
  • No Knowledge/Random Encounter
  • Ra's has his sword. Bane is unarmed.
  • Frank has two knives. Elektra has her sai.
  • Fight takes place in the streets of Venice

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#3 Posted by APEX_pretador (21469 posts) - - Show Bio

Team nolan. Bane has got a massive edge in physicals.

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#4 Posted by Amendment50 (16002 posts) - - Show Bio

Team MCU.

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#5 Posted by rogueshadow (29559 posts) - - Show Bio

Nolan Team should win.

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#6 Posted by ULTRAstarkiller (9130 posts) - - Show Bio
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#7 Edited by gokuss4z (3429 posts) - - Show Bio

Team Nolan Bane is mvp

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#8 Posted by depinhom (13506 posts) - - Show Bio

Team MCU.

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#9 Posted by captain_batman_FTW (8905 posts) - - Show Bio

Nolan team.

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#10 Posted by lubub55 (12991 posts) - - Show Bio

Team Nolan in a stomp. Either can probably solo.

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#11 Posted by jayskee (4975 posts) - - Show Bio

Team MCU

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#12 Posted by nfactor1995 (13229 posts) - - Show Bio

Nolan team for sure

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#13 Posted by Batman3000 (5652 posts) - - Show Bio

Nolna team pretty easy. Bane can solo and Ra's would put up a very good fight by himself.

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#14 Posted by RishardJ (337 posts) - - Show Bio

Team Nolan! Bane solos

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#15 Posted by DSTREET45 (5318 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't know who wins for now but there's no way in hell anyone here is soloing.

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#16 Edited by RisingBean (9866 posts) - - Show Bio

Nolan guys get this one.

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#17 Posted by TheKinfing (11906 posts) - - Show Bio

Nolan.

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#18 Posted by TheSilentRipper (2530 posts) - - Show Bio

League of Shadows

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#19 Posted by lubub55 (12991 posts) - - Show Bio

Team MCU.

@jayskee said:

Team MCU

How? Either of the Nolan team can beat either of the MCU team.

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#20 Posted by Amendment50 (16002 posts) - - Show Bio

@lubub55: Bane gets stabbed to death. And I'm confident that Elektra can at least match Ra's.

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#21 Edited by deactivated-59d29c479f1ca (4066 posts) - - Show Bio

Ra's has Mastered in Strategist and Tactician and swordsman.

Bane has superhuman strength and reflex , expert in h2h combat AND He is known as "The Man Who Broke the Bat"

So Ra's and Bane would definitely win.

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#22 Posted by Amnesiak (3700 posts) - - Show Bio

Nolan

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#23 Posted by TheSuperor (6961 posts) - - Show Bio

Nolan

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#24 Posted by OrdinaryAlan (6717 posts) - - Show Bio

Idk about anyone soloing. Punisher's damage soak impressed me a lot. And he's no slouch is the H2H dept himself. He killed 7 armed prisoners in H2H with mid difficulty. Bane may have higher damage output but Punisher wouldn't go down easily.

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#25 Posted by Owie (7247 posts) - - Show Bio

Elektra and Punisher both have weapons, and Bane had no particular durability against edged weapons, so he's just as vulnerable as anyone else here.

Elektra's fight against Nobu shows she should be able to do well against Bane; Nobu is more skilled, and obviously more durable than Bane. Not only did Elektra beat 20 Hand on her own in that final fight--in a show where beating "fodder" has repeatedly been shown to be a worthwhile feat, as seen for instance in Frank's fight against the prisoners or Daredevil's multiple hallway fights, plus the fact that DD has found it to be a challenge fighting even 6-8 Hand--but after Nobu stabbed her, she took Nobu down with a back hand that kept him on the ground longer than any other time in the show other than when he fell off buildings, which shows a pretty solid striking power.

I'm not sure how Frank would do here against either of these guys. I could see him fighting pretty smart against Bane, and possibly taking him out given his weapons advantage. I think he'd do less well against Al Ghul, who is probably more skilled and has a weapon with a longer reach.

Elektra, on the other hand, was beating Stick, who had a katana, so we know the weapon reach isn't an issue, and Al ghul is arguably around Stick's skill level. I don't recall a ton of fighting feats for Al Ghul other than against Batman; it's hard to gauge these guys who only fight one opponent.

I see the overall battle as pretty close, probably going either way.

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#26 Edited by Pokeysteve (12032 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel team for me. Unarmed Bane is a weak link against opponents with blades that know how to use them.

If everyone here was unarmed then maybe I'd side with the Nolan guys.

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#27 Posted by AllStarSuperman (43733 posts) - - Show Bio

Ras solos, Bane obviously does not.

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#28 Edited by PayneInTheAss (12449 posts) - - Show Bio

Ra´s take Elektra

Bane will suffer against Frank since he is armed.

If Bane can resist until Ra´s take Elektra out, then Nolan team could win.

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#29 Posted by BruceRogers (17769 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol at Ra's soloing.

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#30 Posted by modernww2fare (7385 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel team

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#31 Posted by PayneInTheAss (12449 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol at Ra's soloing.

Knowing Allstar, I´m pretty sure he didn´t mean it at all.

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#32 Posted by BruceRogers (17769 posts) - - Show Bio

@payneintheass: I am pretty sure he did. As far as he is concerned, the MCU characters are too weak to even fight out of a paper bag

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#33 Posted by willpayton (22173 posts) - - Show Bio

Team Nolan in a good battle

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#34 Posted by DSTREET45 (5318 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll side with the MCU.

Bane while the physical powerhouse and possibly the best H2H fighter here, is unarmed unlike everyone else. His durability and pain tolerance advantage means less here since both Elektra and Punisher have two bladed weapons to cut/stab him and enough overall combat ability to tag him multiple times.

Ras has limited feats with his sword while Elektra had the upperhand against Stick (who IMO is at least Nolan Ras level), disarmed and immediately killed Jacques DuChamps (an assassin Stick sent) with his own sais in like two moves, and has general feats of mowing through Hand ninjas, both with and without her sais. What has Ras shown in terms of swordsmanship that places him above accomplishing those level of feats?

Best match-up for the MCU side: Elektra vs Ras and Frank vs Bane. Frank has insane pain tolerance so getting down and dirty (phrasing) against Bane seems like it'd be right up his alley since he could take a bigger beating than Elektra if it comes down to it. Elektra has enough feats for her to take on Ras and come out on top a possibility. They might win if the match-ups were reversed but this way I could see a clear majority going in their favor.

@payneintheass: I am pretty sure he did. As far as he is concerned, the MCU characters are too weak to even fight out of a paper bag

I think that mainly applies to MCU Netflix characters.

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#35 Edited by Silverrings (5452 posts) - - Show Bio

Bane wins it for his team if the MCU duo somehow don't think to give his face a punch or just figure out the mask must be important. If they break the mask and avoid his initial raging freak out blows then they could potentially take both him and Ra's down in a good fight, but if not, and they're both Nolanly stupid, then Frank and Elektra eventually go down to Bane's pretty ludicrous strength. Elektra is more likely to get taken out first, though.

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#36 Posted by uugieboogie (13592 posts) - - Show Bio

Bane gets stabbed by either opponent and I'm not sure if Ras can beat both dolo. Unarmed Bane is a weak link.

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#37 Edited by CelestialKnight (1527 posts) - - Show Bio

Team LoA

Bane isn't gonna just stand there and let them stab him. He has LoA training. He'd find something along the streets of Venice to defend himself with and then disarm. Even if he doesn't, i'm sure he'd be able to dodge and maneuver somehow to the point he can disarm one of the MCU fighters

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#38 Posted by IndomitableRegal (17312 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll go with the Nolan team. Punisher has great damage soak, but that's what he'll spend most of his fight against Bane doing.

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#39 Edited by jayskee (4975 posts) - - Show Bio

@lubub55 said:
@amendment50 said:

Team MCU.

@jayskee said:

Team MCU

How? Either of the Nolan team can beat either of the MCU team.

All that Ra's did was stalemate Bale's Batman, who was not impressive at all. Bane was just brawler. Neither of them have the martial arts skill of Frank or Elektra.

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#40 Edited by PayneInTheAss (12449 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayskee said:
@lubub55 said:
@amendment50 said:

Team MCU.

@jayskee said:

Team MCU

How? Either of the Nolan team can beat either of the MCU team.

All that Ra's did was stalemate Bale's Batman, who was not impressive at all. Bane was just brawler. Neither of them have the martial arts skill of Frank or Elektra.

I would consider Frank a brawler too. I agree that Elektra is the most skilled though.

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#42 Posted by MK39 (798 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm gonna have to go with Nolan team on this one. Ra's sword gives him a reach advantage, and Punisher, while a proficient Melee fighter isn't suited to this type of fight like the other three are, especially with the gear he's been given. Bane has no weapons and will definitely come out of this with more than a few puncture wounds/lacerations (the idea that Bane is going to ninja his way around getting hurt is ridiculous and completely contradicts the version of the character we saw in the movie) but he's strong and resilient enough to power through his injuries long enough to overpower either on team Netflix. Neither on team Nolan solos, but the team takes it handily.

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#43 Edited by cfrehse (2902 posts) - - Show Bio

Good fight. Frank seemed very lethal when he had a knife in his prison fight scene. He lands a hit and it most likely will be crippling or lethal. Ras is a better h2h fighter than frank. Id put frank against bane in a burtal fight that frank takes because of gear. Elektra i feel could take ras 50/50 then. Id give it to mcu 6/10

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#44 Posted by mrmonster (16714 posts) - - Show Bio

Netflix team, but it's close. Elektra would stab both of them.

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#45 Posted by Chazz85 (5201 posts) - - Show Bio

Team nolan. Bane has got a massive edge in physicals.

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#46 Posted by Nighthunter (29641 posts) - - Show Bio

Nolan team

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#47 Posted by themongoose (1814 posts) - - Show Bio

for some reason I think Ra's would fight Elektra

and Bane would go after Punisher if that's the case Bane breaks the Punisher's back

then they double team Elektra

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#48 Posted by Killer_Judge_ (309 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

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#49 Posted by RishardJ (337 posts) - - Show Bio

Team Nolan

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#50 Posted by DSTREET45 (5318 posts) - - Show Bio

Team Netflix.