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Who would win?

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Toneri stomps , too much hax , He have on screen feats of defeating people tens of times more powerful by just using hax .

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Wrong forum. And Raditz loses here.

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Raditz oneshots

To fast and to strong

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@paxa said:

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To fast and to strong

he isn't and too bad stats are equalized

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#7  Edited By Paxa

@aryan87: Another fanfic thread

In that case Toneri wins

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I believe there is a thread like this already

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Raditz

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Raditz still eats a TSB and dies.

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They're about equal in stats, but strength is at Raditz's favor, while Toneri has way deadlier hax, so Raditz modes 50/50

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#12  Edited By buggydclowns

Toneri blitzes and oneshots the fodder, come on raditz was completely useless, he could not even move when piccolo the parody character was holding him and his ultimate ability is weak as hell, the only villains in Z (excluding movies) that Toneri would fail against are Freeza, Cell and Buu

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Nothing Raditz can do here if stats are equalized, Toneri has better versatility in general.

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@aryan87: Who's tens of times more powerful than Toneri?? He has the best on screen feat in Naruto and is the base of most scaling for the entire verse who tf is tens of times stronger than him?

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Toneri wins via hax

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@aryan87: Who's tens of times more powerful than Toneri?? He has the best on screen feat in Naruto and is the base of most scaling for the entire verse who tf is tens of times stronger than him?

Baryon Mode Naruto , Jigen , Isshiki , Kaguya , Prime Hagoromo , Prime Hamura e.t.c. , He at the apex of his power was somewhat a match for BSM Naruto who wasn't using the Decently superior six path sage mode

and the tens of times more powerful thing is

Toneri here doesn't even have the Tenseigan and yet outdid Naruto using a single hax , same naruto laid Toneri with a punch .

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@aryan87: I wasn't trying to be rude it's just Ironic because the characters you just listed scale off Toneri cutting the moon so it's like he's the reason they're stronger than him if you get what I'm saying lmao

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@aryan87: You wouldn't place Toneri over Kaguya?

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@aryan87: I wasn't trying to be rude it's just Ironic because the characters you just listed scale off Toneri cutting the moon so it's like he's the reason they're stronger than him if you get what I'm saying lmao

Toneri's feats , while the best in the series , doesn't really warrant Him to be the best , like Piccolo busted an entire moon with a raise of a finger and no manga feats till Freeza really outdid that feat but there were countless characters stronger then Piccolo even before Freeza

And I didn't think you were rude so Don't worry about that .

@aryan87: You wouldn't place Toneri over Kaguya?

No. Toneri got one punched by Bijuu Sage Naruto and he needed an hour to move the moon toward Earth while Hagoromo did it while he was on his deathbed , was extremely weakened via Jyuubi Extraction but he still Moved a 100 percent filled Moon to the Orbit in moments , his last moments to be specific .

a Hagoromo on death bed while weakened by Jyuubi Extraction would get murked by Kaguya .

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#20  Edited By TheKilBorne

@aryan87: I'm not familiar with the Prime Hagoromo showings is that Boruto or Naruro??

Also has anyone done anything planetary since? I have Naruto at small planet currently overall (Ik his durability is way lower but his AP and scaling even him out) but is anyone else near that without over scaling?

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@thekilborne:

: I'm not familiar with the Prime Hagoromo showings is that Boruto or Naruro??

Prime Hagoromo have only one feat in a novel where he Telekentically pushed an object to a constellation , a comsetellation that would be Lightyears apart

tho his feats even in deathbed are super potent

first of all , Hagoromo was super old and was about to die here anyway and was " at the last of his strength *

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and then he goes on to do The Jyuubi extraction , which weakens one severely to the point they cannot move for months

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and then he ended up throwing the Moon to the Orbit in seconds just before dying

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meaning a hagoromo who was already on deathbed , tore out the Jyuubi which put Hagoromo in his base power and then the Jyuubi extraction weakened him greatly and he still pushed the moon to the orbit in his dying " moments "

prime Hagoromo wouldn't be weakened near death and would have the completely Jyuubi

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making him far far FAR more powerful then the Hagoromo who already dwarfs Toneri , as Toneri took hour , Hagoromo took minutes for the same task while the latter was on death's doors .

Also has anyone done anything planetary since? I have Naruto at small planet currently overall (Ik his durability is way lower but his AP and scaling even him out) but is anyone else near that without over scaling?

everyone scaling over Toneri should be small planetary-planet level

Toneri was moving the Moon at double Mach speed which would yield the kinectic energy of planet level and even the movie makes it clear that if the Moon hits Earth it would be complete planetary anhilation .

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Even the Hagoromo I mentioned and the state he was in would scale to that level .

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#23  Edited By TheKilBorne

So Kaguya then So6P then Toneri?

And I meant feats Ik they scale to small planet but is it any other planet feats besides S06P and Toneri?

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Remove equal stats and Raditz curbstomps.

OT: Toneri wins this tho

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Raditz would lose with unequal stats too.

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Raditz one shot without even stats. Naruto characters are only FTL in reaction speed an are glass canons

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Raditz slaps Toneri regardless of these nerfs

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Raditz murders toneri with unequal stats, but loses with stats equalized

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Stats equalized? Toneri fodders him

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Toneri due to hax and skill.

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#35  Edited By RDCDesmond  Online

Toneri Silver Wheel pushed Naruto from Moon core to the surface

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He can push a cocky Raditz over 1,000 km to space where he suffocates

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Raditz solo the verse.

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@rdcdesmond: Doesn't the moon in Naruto has a breathable atmosphere?

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Stats equalized? Toneri wins with his hax

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#40  Edited By RDCDesmond  Online

@axiompulse: Yes but the battle is not on moon

If it’s on earth his chakra tornado can still reach over 1,000 km above him

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#41  Edited By hanketsuhen

Radits fires a single ki blast and its over, until one can grow long and wild hair like him theres no point to compare, Itachi is the only one that can clear dragon ball

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#42  Edited By RDCDesmond  Online

@hanketsuhen: Bro raditz is moon + - small planet level in manga and small planet level if not higher in the anime yes Toneri wins but raditz isn’t as weak as you think. He would give Toneri a hard time because both have similar AP movie vs manga wise, with raditz being sold small planet level in anime. But both have similar speed if we upscale raditz from BOZ Piccolo raditz should be LS like Tenseigan Mode Toneri who upscales from his base sending a meteor from moon to earth in seconds and Raditz upscales from Piccolo blast reaching moon in 3 seconds.

Actually going by power levels raditz has the slight speed edge since he should be over 4.6 x piccolo base speed who destroyed the moon at 30% SoL. 322 x 4.6 is less than 1,500 which is raditz power lv. Raditz is around 1.2 x FTL But people close in power lv can still react to faster characters as long as the gap isn’t huge. Toneri Is sold LS in Tenseigan he scales at least over 10 x his base who was Rel. Due to his cloak keeping up with the last bsm and Sm is a 10 x boost from the last base. And Biju Mode boosts him higher. So the speed gap between Toneri and raditz shouldn’t be enough for raditz to blitz him. And we already know from Piccolo first SPC and from Anger boost kid gohan that slightly weaker characters can harm him. Toneri should win and has better Hax more times than not.

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GWRE is not killing Raditz.

Ot: Toneri wins.

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@rdcdesmond: Ye, but Toneri has far too much hax. TSB seals the deal honestly.

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#48 RDCDesmond  Online

@morningstar999: True. But wouldnt raditz be able to detect the tsbs threat level with his scouter ? But then again nvm I don’t remember the scouters being able to detect an attacks properties only their battle power and ki blasts.

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@rdcdesmond: Unlikely tbh. TSB are considered particular even in Naruto, they are not really similiar to Ki in any way.

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Until I see someone in Naruto scale above completely vaporizing a moon, (from Earth's distance no less) or say they will one shot planet with no additional context, I'm going with Raditz almost every time.