Raditz vs Saitama

mega mind and metro-man solo both.

On an actual note, Raditz

Raditz high diffs.

Saitama

He’s at least planet level when he’s serious due to up scaling and being a lot stronger than King Orochi who has small planet level scaling

Also Raditz will get blitzed

Raditz should high diff this tbh

Saitama sighs in disappointment as he walks through the Saiyan saga.

@worldofruin6: Nice joke.

OT: Saitama gets pasted obviously.

stop trolling

hope you're joking pal. because if you think that mine is wank, I'd love to know what you think of people that for istance put Mereum at multiversal, multigalaxy FT and so on.

Been debating for over an year OPM and DB ( been on this site for years as reader) so spare me the crap about wank. Both are in the same ballpark, I give Saitama the AP advantage and speed. Raditz is more cunning and doesnt lets himself get hit often like Saitama before the battle, he also has better versatility.

I'd love to know tbh what wank really means to you at this point fella.

@eredin12: if mine is wank, what do you call this fella (?) :

I give the majority to Raditz due to reasons stated above in my previous post, other than the possibility that he could go Great Ape. Again, you should think about your definition of wanking

@eredin12: Thinking Saitama is planet level is wank.

Raditz cock slapping casual moon busters > Saitama.

@delein: Did you mean to respond to someone else?

@eredin12: already answered you. We discussed in other threads where Saitama stands in terms of speed and AP. we discusses about OPM speed tiers in another thread talking about FF. we discussed about Blast. and agree most of the times. So dont know what you want from me at this point.

How tho? Vegeta and Goku were barely Planet level. Raditz is only moon+/small planet level.

@ragegod: I meant to use your post as an example. Didnt mean no harm.

@worldofruin6 said:

@ragegod said:

@worldofruin6: Nice joke.

OT: Saitama gets pasted obviously.

How tho? Vegeta and Goku were barely Planet level. Raditz is only moon+/small planet level.

@deyyy said:

@worldofruin6 said:

Saitama sighs in disappointment as he walks through the Saiyan saga.

stop trolling

Saitama is neither moon or planet level so I fail to see your point

@ragegod: Saitama is neither moon or planet level so I fail to see your point

He punched through a planet level attack and busted a continent sized cloud with what was left over. And his expression never changed the entire time. He also scales massively above multicontinental characters. Plus he's faster.

Saitama holds speed and AP.

Raditz has versatility due to being smarter in combat, he has more experience and has ki blasts. He also has two advantages which are debatable depending on the set of rules:

Saitama IC lets himself get hit often before the battle even starts.

Raditz could go Ape which would almost even the gap in AP.

I give the majority to Raditz (so dont know how you want me to put it, high difficulty, 5.5/10 . whatever you wanna call it) due to how Saitama acts in battles and due to the possibility IC to go ape

Saitama is casually Moon-Small Planet level, while that's Raditz best. He curbs.

that Boros attack is not planet lvl it was stated to destroy the surface of the earth and thats like multi-continental

What he said. I'm not gonna do the surface, planet, star bit.

Even surface wiping is moon level and that's not even talking about the leftover energy and how casual he was. And Saitama no diffing Orochi and scaling massively above characters like Tatsumaki.

@eredin12: Possibly but every calc for this feat I've seen has been under scrutiny with people going back and forth. Regardless it's enough for Raditz imo.

Add Nappa and Saitama still stomps.

@eredin12: Fair enough.

@eredin12:ur posts made me change my opinion nice job mf

Saitama wins now

@eredin12: How is Orochi's feat better then Piccolo's moon vape?

That is on the high end small planet level feat on it's own when low balled, which Raditz could no sell straight to the face.

Not saying who wins here as I think it is debatable but to say Saitama is straight up planet level while Raditz is only small planet level is hypocrisy.

@eredin12:

Raditz would need to use his actual punch/ backhand to overpower that blast, with Kamehameha Goku used for instance he used his hands to overpower the blast,

I was referring to Piccolo's ki blast which he tanked to the face and no sold

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Ki blast of BoS Piccolo should be at least Small Planet+ which is very conservative.

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The high end for Piccolo's feat is much higher then that which I disagree with for obvious reasons. (Messes up the scaling)

Goku's Kamehameha is obviously more potent then generic Piccolo ki blast which Raditz still manged stopped with his hand.

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The point I was making is: the logic used to push Saitama way over Raditz doesn't make much sense when applying the same math on Raditz's end.

No selling moon vaping level attack isn't less impressive then what Saitama did with Orochi.

I have them both at planet level potency.

Saitama could probably defeat Raditz if he took advantage of his weakness, being his tail.

Raditz loses and for once Saitama has actual feats to back it up. Power scaling from Boros moon kick and casually beating Boros is enough.

during the Namek Saga Frieza spent time charging up a Death Ball to explode the planet

Which implies, to me, that Frieza's other techniques would not have destroyed the world.

why would he want to escape if he'd survive the explosion fine and he could fly in space fine?

Not really. Reason being, is the gap between baseline planet level and even dwarf star level is very large.

Vegeta would end up being large planet AP which is actually accurate when taking his statement of reducing Earth into ash at face value.

Volume of earth =1.0975095E+21m^3 or 1.0975095E+27 cm^3

Energy required to pulverize 1cm^3 of rock = 214 J/cc (assuming the value is constant)

Energy required to pulverize Earth = (1.097e+27cc)(214cc) = 2.34e+29 joules

GBE of the Earth = 2.242e+35 J

2.242e+35 J +2.34e+29J = 2.24e+35J, 19.8x Large Planet.

Which makes Raditz and Nappa being baseline of planet level consistent.

Dwarf Star would be where 1st form Frieza lands. Everyone in between would vary in ranges of Large Planet+.

Saitama winning relies on assumption tbh. Raditz scales to better feats, and they are around the same tier of speed. Moon vaporizing blasts don't even scratch Raditz, so unless you somehow scale Saitama to planet level (I still don't get how), Raditz wins with superior versatility. If you consider Saitama planet level, Saitama ig.

LOL at him clearing Saiyan Saga when KKx2 Goku would curb him to the ground.